{"conversationCode":"298-038","tapeNumber":298,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-298-038","startDateTime":"1971-11-11T22:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-11T23:11:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Nov-1971","startTime":"5:50 PM","endDate":"11-Nov-1971","endTime":"6:11 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On November 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:50 pm and 6:11 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 298-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 298-38\n\nDate: November 11, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 5:50 pm and 6:11 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Charles W. Colson.\n\n[See Conversation No. 14-55]","filename":["298-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:41:33","tapeEnd":"03:42:23","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"298-037","nextCode":"298-039","transcript":[{"start":0.1,"end":20.96,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":20.98,"end":25.14,"text":"Would you get together with Bill Sapphire and get me a page about the, or a half page, that you need to prepare some stuff for me in case I do something wrong with regard to public events about the U.J.L.C.O."},{"start":25.16,"end":25.56,"text":"for the 6-6-6-1-2-0."},{"start":25.58,"end":25.98,"text":"Bill in Ohio, right?"},{"start":26,"end":26.32,"text":"Would you get..."},{"start":27.17,"end":31.18,"text":"given the best possible figures, and I don't need them for tomorrow."},{"start":31.2,"end":31.3,"text":"Okay?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs Charles Colson to coordinate with speechwriter William Safire to draft briefing materials regarding potential public relations risks associated with the U.J.L.C.O. The President requests that these documents include the most favorable available statistics to help mitigate negative optics during future public events. No immediate deadline is set for the project, reflecting a strategic effort to prepare for potential criticism.","topics":["Public relations","Speechwriting","U.J.L.C.O.","Briefing materials","Political strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T14:00:37.280Z"},"topicSlugs":["public-relations","speechwriting","u-j-l-c-o","briefing-materials","political-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":39,"audioFiles":[{"file":"298-038.mp3","bytes":1570289,"durationSec":39.12,"bitrate":321152,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.956Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/298-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/298-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/298/conversation-298-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}