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Conversation 298-019

TapeTape 298StartThursday, November 11, 1971 at 3:27 PMEndThursday, November 11, 1971 at 3:30 PMTape start time02:19:39Tape end time02:23:08ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AI Summary

President Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon coordinate their personal schedules and upcoming political matters, including the resignation of Secretary of Agriculture Clifford Hardin. The President discusses his plans to work through an upcoming National Security Council meeting before traveling to Camp David. The couple also briefly touches upon event logistics, including the presence of Billy Graham and the management of various guests.

Clifford HardinCamp DavidNational Security CouncilPat NixonBilly GrahamWhite House scheduling
AudioNARA Description

On November 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:27 pm to 3:30 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 298-019 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 298-19

Date: November 11, 1971
Time: 3:27 pm - 3:30 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 09/07/2018.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[298-019-w001]
[Duration: 1m 58s]

The President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon.

[See Conversation No. 14-41]

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Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Hello.
Yeah, I wanted to tell you a couple things.
First, we're going to announce Hardin's resignation today.
He was successful in his thoughts in Indiana.
He's an old friend of mine.
He's an old friend of mine.
He's an old friend of mine.
They always say that, but that's not true.
And then I'm going to...
So I'm going to stay here and work with them.
So I won't be holding her back.
I thought we'd go to Camp David, if that's all right with you.
I have a NSC meeting at 5, and I hope to finish it by 6, 15.
I thought we'd look at it and see what it would say.
Fish is coming down.
I told her it was coming down.
I told her it was coming down.
Right, the U.S. Army being around, what shall we say, 6.30.
And they were all set.
And they're going to come over here at quarter of four.
The buses, the missing buses coming in.
You want to step over and say, well, you don't have to.
You can do this by yourself.
All right, fine.
We don't need you.
Fine.
Now, with regard to the, uh, with regard to the, uh, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh,
At least you got him.
Okay, I'll get at him, I'll run away.
Okay, yeah, we'll cross some of them off if necessary to get this man on.
The only one that I have approved is Billy Graham.
Yeah.
I know he's been here many times, so why not?
It's okay, I'll be there.
Yeah.
I know, I know, I know that, but I just want, I just,
All right, I'll get at it right away.
I'll get somebody on it that's done more work.
Okay.
I agree.
You don't need to do it.
Just send it over to me and I'll take care of it too.
Okay.
Okay, fine.
I'll see you later.
Bye.
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