{"conversationCode":"299-009","tapeNumber":299,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-299-009","startDateTime":"1971-11-10T19:34:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-10T19:45:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Nov-1971","startTime":"2:34 PM","endDate":"10-Nov-1971","endTime":"2:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On November 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:34 pm to 2:45 pm. 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