{"conversationCode":"300-012","tapeNumber":300,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-300-012","startDateTime":"1971-11-04T18:48:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-04T20:47:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Nov-1971","startTime":"1:48 PM","endDate":"4-Nov-1971","endTime":"3:47 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On November 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:48 pm and 3:47 pm. 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Shultz\n                    -Paul W. McCracken\n\n     Foreign aid program","filename":["300-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:19:18","tapeEnd":"00:22:23","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"300-011","nextCode":"300-013","transcript":[{"start":7.02,"end":18.55,"text":"Is there anybody, I was thinking of any people on the staff or timers or others that we might run the floor at this time."},{"start":18.57,"end":26.92,"text":"There isn't a hell of a big crowd there now."},{"start":26.94,"end":29.61,"text":"And I would choose to take somebody like Garner."},{"start":29.63,"end":33.69,"text":"I don't know if you've done anything with him."},{"start":33.71,"end":34.05,"text":"I think the one."},{"start":36.78,"end":45.98,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":46,"end":50.78,"text":"There are other hotels, too, though."},{"start":54.89,"end":55.91,"text":"Can you say any other hotels?"},{"start":55.93,"end":56.17,"text":"Sure."},{"start":56.19,"end":58.89,"text":"Yes, yes, you see, the flying and everything."},{"start":58.91,"end":61.91,"text":"And, you know, just the idea of a prison, if you're working hard, you might as well go to Portland."},{"start":65.78,"end":75.13,"text":"They're on their own."},{"start":75.41,"end":85.93,"text":"I don't mean to do that particularly with the new people in particular, you know what I mean?"},{"start":85.95,"end":86.75,"text":"Because we just can't do it with others."},{"start":86.77,"end":88.91,"text":"But I mean people with old hands that work."},{"start":89.07,"end":89.31,"text":"What?"},{"start":89.51,"end":89.61,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":89.63,"end":90.57,"text":"Yeah, I've got a comment."},{"start":90.59,"end":94.08,"text":"But when you've got your old hands that, you know,"},{"start":94.46,"end":106.18,"text":"They were around a long time."},{"start":106.2,"end":106.6,"text":"They were forgotten."},{"start":106.62,"end":107.26,"text":"They worked day and day and day."},{"start":107.28,"end":116,"text":"And then, and people who don't really do a lot of the paper, for example, would be into the Atlantic, and they'd go all the time, you know, to nice places, but they might need something to look all like on."},{"start":116.02,"end":117.38,"text":"So, how do you find nothing else?"},{"start":117.4,"end":119.76,"text":"What do they call it?"},{"start":127.88,"end":132.46,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":132.54,"end":147.04,"text":"Increases for a lot of government workers."},{"start":147.06,"end":147.26,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":147.28,"end":149.88,"text":"Whatever they want, put the statement out."},{"start":149.9,"end":150.98,"text":"You know what I mean?"},{"start":151,"end":155.05,"text":"On that, I've got to get Rummy's judgment, Rummy's shelter, to agree on what he was cracking."},{"start":157.02,"end":179.08,"text":"Nothing further on those."},{"start":179.1,"end":180.11,"text":"OK, bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H.R. Haldeman discuss logistics for an upcoming trip to Florida, specifically evaluating staff accommodations and the inclusion of Leonard Garment. The conversation shifts to addressing impending wage increases for government employees, with Nixon tasking Haldeman to coordinate a public statement with Donald Rumsfeld, George Shultz, and Paul McCracken. They also briefly touch upon broader foreign aid program matters.","topics":["Presidential travel","Florida trip","Government wages","Personnel policy","Foreign aid"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T14:04:17.923Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-travel","florida-trip","government-wages","personnel-policy","foreign-aid"],"audioDurationSec":180,"audioFiles":[{"file":"300-012.mp3","bytes":7208502,"durationSec":180.06,"bitrate":320265,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.956Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/300-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/300-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/300/conversation-300-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}