{"conversationCode":"300-016","tapeNumber":300,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-300-016","startDateTime":"1971-11-04T20:47:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-04T20:52:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Nov-1971","startTime":"3:47 PM","endDate":"4-Nov-1971","endTime":"3:52 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On November 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:47 pm to 3:52 pm. 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(President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"300-015","nextCode":"300-017","transcript":[{"start":0.79,"end":1.13,"text":"Go."},{"start":4.25,"end":5.84,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":6.22,"end":7.32,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":8.52,"end":11.24,"text":"Okay."},{"start":11.26,"end":11.4,"text":"Hello."},{"start":11.74,"end":11.85,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":11.87,"end":11.96,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":20.46,"end":20.8,"text":"What's new today?"},{"start":20.82,"end":21.76,"text":"Got Mrs. Gandhi coming on."},{"start":21.98,"end":22.1,"text":"Great."},{"start":22.12,"end":22.52,"text":"When do we plan it?"},{"start":22.54,"end":28.81,"text":"How can we get it out, Chuck?"},{"start":28.83,"end":29.33,"text":"I'm rather than Peterson."},{"start":29.71,"end":43.49,"text":"May I just respectfully suggest that, uh, get Kissinger to shut him if there's any problem?"},{"start":49.33,"end":50.05,"text":"He knows about it?"},{"start":50.07,"end":50.17,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":50.19,"end":54.64,"text":"Well, all right."},{"start":54.66,"end":56.78,"text":"I'll have him call you."},{"start":56.8,"end":56.9,"text":"Okay."},{"start":56.92,"end":57.02,"text":"Good."},{"start":57.04,"end":57.14,"text":"Good."},{"start":57.16,"end":57.26,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":57.28,"end":57.38,"text":"Good."},{"start":57.4,"end":57.5,"text":"Good."},{"start":57.52,"end":57.62,"text":"Good."},{"start":57.68,"end":57.78,"text":"Good."},{"start":59.04,"end":82.12,"text":"All right, good, good."},{"start":82.14,"end":82.56,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":82.58,"end":82.78,"text":"Good."},{"start":82.8,"end":82.9,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":82.92,"end":83.4,"text":"All right, yeah."},{"start":83.42,"end":83.52,"text":"Good."},{"start":83.54,"end":84.18,"text":"Anything, what happened to Mark?"},{"start":84.2,"end":84.78,"text":"Anything down or up?"},{"start":94.97,"end":98.07,"text":"I was afraid to shorten it."},{"start":99.17,"end":103.1,"text":"If it went up today, that's good."},{"start":103.72,"end":106.4,"text":"Because tomorrow's unemployment, I am confident."},{"start":106.42,"end":109.29,"text":"That's the only thing I think might shoot the market up."},{"start":109.31,"end":109.41,"text":"Good."},{"start":111.21,"end":111.47,"text":"Good."},{"start":112.29,"end":121.02,"text":"Good."},{"start":121.04,"end":121.2,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":123.06,"end":124.46,"text":"Right."},{"start":124.48,"end":124.72,"text":"Good."},{"start":125.19,"end":139.21,"text":"Well, let me say this, that this is a great triumph on this brain thing."},{"start":139.23,"end":139.65,"text":"And what do you want?"},{"start":139.67,"end":149.46,"text":"I'll just tell Henry to call you and that he should get your brain under the phone at the highest level and get this done."},{"start":149.48,"end":151.26,"text":"Is that what you want to say?"},{"start":151.28,"end":151.38,"text":"Yeah?"},{"start":151.41,"end":151.73,"text":"All right, done."},{"start":151.75,"end":153.53,"text":"I'll get him right now."},{"start":153.55,"end":153.75,"text":"All right."},{"start":156.58,"end":166.5,"text":"And a pay board."},{"start":167.1,"end":167.58,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":167.6,"end":168.14,"text":"Just keep the heat on."},{"start":168.16,"end":168.26,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":168.28,"end":169.26,"text":"It's great, it's great."},{"start":170.1,"end":178.28,"text":"Just say that we don't know if anything's gonna happen, but ask his advice, what the hell we can do, and hop in here if everything's great."},{"start":178.29,"end":178.4,"text":"Okay."},{"start":178.42,"end":178.52,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":178.54,"end":178.66,"text":"Great."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss preparations for a meeting with Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi and the potential economic impact of upcoming unemployment statistics on the stock market. Nixon directs Colson to coordinate with Henry Kissinger to ensure high-level diplomatic outreach regarding the Gandhi visit. Additionally, the pair discusses maintaining pressure on the Pay Board to advance the administration’s economic objectives.","topics":["Indira Gandhi","Henry Kissinger","Economic policy","Stock market","Pay Board","Unemployment"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T14:04:40.863Z"},"topicSlugs":["indira-gandhi","henry-kissinger","economic-policy","stock-market","pay-board","unemployment"],"audioDurationSec":179,"audioFiles":[{"file":"300-016.mp3","bytes":7181335,"durationSec":179.4,"bitrate":320245,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.956Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/300-016.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/300-016","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/300/conversation-300-016","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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