{"conversationCode":"301-009","tapeNumber":301,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-301-009","startDateTime":"1971-11-03T17:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-03T17:30:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Nov-1971","startTime":"12:16 PM","endDate":"3-Nov-1971","endTime":"12:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On November 3, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 12:30 pm. 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Rizzo\n\n     Ehrlichman's schedule\n           -Andrew Heiskell\n           -Court issue","filename":["301-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:07:05","tapeEnd":"03:10:01","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"301-008","nextCode":"301-010","transcript":[{"start":3.14,"end":27.55,"text":"John, would you see any objection if I were there just to sort of cover the Democratic faces here and the non-Democratic faces?"},{"start":27.57,"end":29.21,"text":"If I gave Kevin Floyd a call and he was distracted, he'd run a decent case."},{"start":29.23,"end":29.79,"text":"So how would you handle it?"},{"start":29.81,"end":31.03,"text":"If you don't think it's a good idea, I wouldn't do it at all."},{"start":33.58,"end":57.55,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":57.57,"end":59.29,"text":"Say we want to work with the mayors."},{"start":59.31,"end":59.41,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":59.43,"end":59.75,"text":"And, uh... Yeah."},{"start":59.77,"end":60.09,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":60.11,"end":60.21,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":60.23,"end":60.33,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":60.35,"end":60.45,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":60.47,"end":60.59,"text":"Right."},{"start":60.61,"end":60.71,"text":"Okay."},{"start":60.73,"end":60.83,"text":"Good."},{"start":60.85,"end":61.79,"text":"Oh, and I'm going to thank you for God damn it."},{"start":61.81,"end":62.63,"text":"No, I bet there's no, no disadvantage."},{"start":62.65,"end":63.21,"text":"The thing is, is that, uh..."},{"start":63.55,"end":81.35,"text":"I haven't called."},{"start":81.37,"end":81.61,"text":"Where is it?"},{"start":81.63,"end":82.09,"text":"I thought I had a call."},{"start":82.11,"end":82.77,"text":"Oh, one of the, one of the lifts."},{"start":82.79,"end":82.99,"text":"All right."},{"start":83.01,"end":83.25,"text":"How'd it go?"},{"start":83.27,"end":83.51,"text":"How'd it go?"},{"start":83.53,"end":83.75,"text":"Yeah, good."},{"start":102.87,"end":109.96,"text":"Sure, sure."},{"start":123.65,"end":125.84,"text":"Did you indicate that you were gonna work high school over a little?"},{"start":125.86,"end":126.7,"text":"Are we getting a lot of them to know that?"},{"start":126.72,"end":126.88,"text":"Did you?"},{"start":126.9,"end":126.96,"text":"No."},{"start":126.98,"end":127.08,"text":"Good."},{"start":127.1,"end":127.2,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":127.22,"end":128.04,"text":"Yeah, we're not doing it for that reason."},{"start":128.06,"end":129.6,"text":"Did you get in the court of things, particularly when you mentioned that?"},{"start":129.62,"end":130.16,"text":"No, I didn't have a chance."},{"start":130.18,"end":130.56,"text":"All right."},{"start":136.03,"end":153.22,"text":"Oh, my."},{"start":153.25,"end":153.34,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":153.37,"end":153.47,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":153.49,"end":153.59,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":153.61,"end":153.71,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":153.73,"end":153.83,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":153.85,"end":153.95,"text":"Okay."},{"start":153.97,"end":154.29,"text":"All right, John."},{"start":154.31,"end":154.51,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John Ehrlichman discuss political outreach strategies, focusing on the potential benefits of engaging with Democratic mayors like Boston's Kevin White. The two men deliberate on how to manage these relationships to bolster the administration's image of bipartisan cooperation. 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