{"conversationCode":"308-010","tapeNumber":308,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-308-010","startDateTime":"1971-12-10T18:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-10T19:58:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Dec-1971","startTime":"1:50 PM","endDate":"10-Dec-1971","endTime":"2:58 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On December 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:50 pm and 2:58 pm. 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(“Bob”) Haldeman\n           -Atrocities on television\n                -Indian censorship\n\nKissinger left at an unknown time before 2:58 pm.","filename":["308-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:16:10","tapeEnd":"00:19:41","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"308-009","nextCode":"308-011","transcript":[{"start":0.34,"end":25.03,"text":"Oh, Henry?"},{"start":25.05,"end":25.35,"text":"Anything, uh..."},{"start":25.37,"end":25.63,"text":"Anything new?"},{"start":25.65,"end":27.49,"text":"They're pretty much tied up with mine, but I should probably see their hands."},{"start":27.51,"end":27.93,"text":"All right, slow down."},{"start":27.95,"end":28.15,"text":"Slow down."},{"start":28.17,"end":28.31,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":28.33,"end":28.53,"text":"All right."},{"start":28.55,"end":28.65,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":35.76,"end":62.51,"text":"Well, they won't get it all."},{"start":62.53,"end":63.05,"text":"We'll get it back to them."},{"start":63.07,"end":63.57,"text":"I'll watch back for them."},{"start":69.74,"end":84.62,"text":"Go ahead."},{"start":84.64,"end":85.38,"text":"Go ahead."},{"start":92.13,"end":92.31,"text":"Go ahead."},{"start":92.33,"end":92.89,"text":"Otherwise, nothing new, huh?"},{"start":92.91,"end":93.01,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":93.03,"end":93.59,"text":"Played very well, I thought."},{"start":93.61,"end":96.01,"text":"Yeah, I thought it played very well."},{"start":96.03,"end":96.69,"text":"It was a day kind of good to see."},{"start":103.05,"end":128.49,"text":"I know."},{"start":128.51,"end":129.03,"text":"One hell of a word to say."},{"start":129.05,"end":129.25,"text":"It's fine."},{"start":129.27,"end":130.05,"text":"It's running on the India package, Dan."},{"start":130.07,"end":130.27,"text":"It's fine."},{"start":130.29,"end":132.54,"text":"You know, they told me they had some... Bob, all of them say they had some pretty atrocious movies or something."},{"start":132.8,"end":156.67,"text":"But he said that the announcer went to great pains to apologize for showing them."},{"start":156.69,"end":156.85,"text":"Did you?"},{"start":156.87,"end":158.07,"text":"You were telling me that the Indians sent you such pictures."},{"start":160.92,"end":188.91,"text":"Is that a hell of an idea?"},{"start":188.93,"end":189.31,"text":"I'll be right back."},{"start":189.33,"end":189.43,"text":"Four."},{"start":189.45,"end":189.57,"text":"Three."},{"start":189.59,"end":189.69,"text":"Four."},{"start":191.04,"end":203.37,"text":"Well, we'll wash our hands of that part."},{"start":203.39,"end":203.49,"text":"Okay."},{"start":203.51,"end":203.95,"text":"All right, everything."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger discuss the ongoing geopolitical crisis between India and Pakistan, specifically addressing reports of atrocities captured on film. They review the potential impact of televised footage and the role of Indian censorship in shaping the narrative. The two agree to maintain a degree of detachment regarding the reported atrocities to manage the administration's public position on the conflict.","topics":["India-Pakistan War","Public Relations","International Conflict","Media Coverage","Foreign Policy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T14:21:51.383Z"},"topicSlugs":["india-pakistan-war","public-relations","international-conflict","media-coverage","foreign-policy"],"audioDurationSec":204,"audioFiles":[{"file":"308-010.mp3","bytes":8180293,"durationSec":204.37,"bitrate":320210,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.956Z","transcriptGapSeconds":129,"transcriptGapShare":0.63,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/308-010.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/308-010","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/308/conversation-308-010","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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