{"conversationCode":"309-004","tapeNumber":309,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-309-004","startDateTime":"1971-12-24T18:46:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-24T18:48:00.000Z","startDate":"24-Dec-1971","startTime":"1:46 PM","endDate":"24-Dec-1971","endTime":"1:48 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 24, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:46 pm and 1:48 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 309-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 309-4\n\nDate: December 24, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 1:46 pm and 1:48 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     Gen. James D. (“Don”) Hughes's wish to talk to the President on the phone\n\n          -Liberia\n\n     First Family Christmas photos\n           -Blue Room\n                -Ronald L. Ziegler and Constance M. Stuart\n                -Photo by wire services and Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins\n\n     President’s instructions\n          -Gen. Walter R. Tkach\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 1:48 pm.","filename":["309-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:38:33","tapeEnd":"01:40:07","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"309-003","nextCode":"309-005","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":6.42,"text":"."},{"start":6.44,"end":10.69,"text":"."},{"start":10.71,"end":10.73,"text":"."},{"start":10.75,"end":12.95,"text":"."},{"start":12.97,"end":18.86,"text":"."},{"start":18.88,"end":18.9,"text":"."},{"start":18.92,"end":28.51,"text":"."},{"start":28.53,"end":28.55,"text":"."},{"start":28.89,"end":53.12,"text":"that the family puts in front of the Christmas tree in the blue room for a picture taken by the wires of the Christmas pictures that are published tomorrow."},{"start":53.14,"end":54.65,"text":"Because the two wires are where we are when there's an official photograph."},{"start":54.67,"end":55.43,"text":"Or one of them could be where we were."},{"start":55.45,"end":56.57,"text":"We did a whole crash, and I'd like you to send out more."},{"start":56.59,"end":57.01,"text":"Maybe that does it."},{"start":57.03,"end":57.51,"text":"I don't understand that."},{"start":58.33,"end":84.1,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":84.12,"end":84.92,"text":"Most people are pretty well clearing it."},{"start":84.94,"end":85.58,"text":"I hope to have it on the second."},{"start":85.6,"end":86.16,"text":"I'm going to haul it around."},{"start":87.73,"end":89.84,"text":"General, please direct his office along."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate logistical details regarding official First Family Christmas photographs taken in the Blue Room. The discussion addressed the distribution of these images through wire services and personal photographers. Additionally, Nixon briefly reviewed communication requests from General James D. Hughes concerning Liberia and issued specific instructions for General Walter R. Tkach.","topics":["White House photography","Christmas traditions","First Family","General James D. Hughes","General Walter R. Tkach","Public relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T14:22:32.934Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-photography","christmas-traditions","first-family","general-james-d-hughes","general-walter-r-tkach","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":91,"audioFiles":[{"file":"309-004.mp3","bytes":3628718,"durationSec":90.58,"bitrate":320477,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:38.956Z","transcriptGapSeconds":50,"transcriptGapShare":0.55,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/309-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/309-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/309/conversation-309-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}