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Nixon & Sanchez on Pakistan and Naval strategy

Sunday, January 2, 1972 · 12:48 PM–3:30 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, ManoloConversation311-043 on Tape 311 (tape position 02:21:33–02:25:56)StartSunday, January 2, 1972 at 12:48 PMEndSunday, January 2, 1972 at 3:30 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 311-043 ↗

President Nixon consults with his valet, Manolo Sanchez, regarding U.S. foreign policy and domestic political concerns. The discussion touches upon the strategic positioning of the U.S. carrier force near Pakistan and broader skepticism regarding foreign aid effectiveness. Additionally, the President reflects on the political challenges surrounding the potential for Vietnam War service amnesties.

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2:21:33Well, I think in Pakistan, the movement of the carrier force, how much do we want to leave the Gulf of Pakistan for other contingencies like evacuation?
2:21:42The evacuation thing?
2:21:42Yeah, well, I think it's up to you to hear what it's really like.
2:21:47They don't want our aid.
2:21:48They say, well, that's what it was predicted.
2:21:52Of course, they're not going to say that.
2:21:54The point is, we have nothing else there.
2:21:58It's still national.
2:21:59It's not real.
2:21:59I don't know.
2:22:01A lot of people don't see a goddamn about it.
2:22:04It's an amnesty question for Vietnam.
2:22:09For the service.
2:22:09To me, that's the...
2:22:11In terms of, you know, I'm glad to be living in the United Town, but I think we have to be living in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of... ...in terms of...
2:22:43I'm out loud.
2:22:53Thank you.

On January 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:48 pm and 3:30 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 311-043 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 311-43

Date: January 2, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:48 pm and 3:30 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Manolo Sanchez.

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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 3:30 pm.
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  • 311-042 12:48 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:48 pm and 3:30 pm.

Conversation 311-043, January 2, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/311-043 (accessed October 12, 2026).