{"conversationCode":"312-007","tapeNumber":312,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-312-007","startDateTime":"1972-01-09T17:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-09T18:18:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Jan-1972","startTime":"12:55 PM","endDate":"9-Jan-1972","endTime":"1:18 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On January 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:55 pm to 1:18 pm. 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And the country isn't going to vote against a candidate for being for him."},{"start":767.11,"end":769.19,"text":"And yet individual areas damn well will."},{"start":770.45,"end":770.55,"text":"And..."},{"start":770.69,"end":777.51,"text":"I don't know who he is."},{"start":778.03,"end":779.79,"text":"Montel is..."},{"start":782.12,"end":791.23,"text":"As a matter of fact, we may not get it, you know, which, of course, is just one of those things that doesn't amount to much spending this year anyway, but the point is that we've made our effort on it."},{"start":791.41,"end":791.87,"text":"That's it."},{"start":797.91,"end":799.17,"text":"Yeah, yeah, yeah."},{"start":935.77,"end":939.67,"text":"You know, one thing I was thinking about the car business."},{"start":939.71,"end":944.45,"text":"I'm wondering if that's totally secure."},{"start":947.27,"end":948.49,"text":"Who would be doing it?"},{"start":948.67,"end":951.83,"text":"The hungry people?"},{"start":951.89,"end":954.29,"text":"Some know that he would immediately do it."},{"start":956.03,"end":956.58,"text":"Only late, I would think."},{"start":961.31,"end":967.89,"text":"We have nothing to do with it, but I just said that he does things sometimes where he plays our game dry, don't we?"},{"start":1129.28,"end":1130.66,"text":"The set was quite a battle."},{"start":1130.84,"end":1134.74,"text":"It was really worth getting rid of that tack carrier."},{"start":1134.84,"end":1142.08,"text":"You know, new stuff, I think, whatever we've got for these clowns."},{"start":1143.86,"end":1144,"text":"Oh."},{"start":1147.9,"end":1148.66,"text":"We'll see you then."},{"start":1151.04,"end":1151.62,"text":"I sure will."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":694.25,"end":1177.75,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss the political fallout and economic implications of supporting the Supersonic Transport (SST) program, particularly regarding its impact on the aerospace industry and regional voter sentiment. The two men weigh the strategic value of the project against public perception and the likelihood of its failure. 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