Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 315 › Conversation 315-014

Nixon, Haldeman & Acker on King Frederik IX and John Connally

Monday, January 17, 1972 · 1:50 PM–2:15 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Acker, Marjorie P.; Woods, Rose MaryConversation315-014 on Tape 315 (tape position 00:44:06–01:06:10)StartMonday, January 17, 1972 at 1:50 PMEndMonday, January 17, 1972 at 2:15 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 315-014 ↗

President Nixon and H.R. Haldeman reviewed potential U.S. representation at the funeral of King Frederik IX of Denmark, discussing various candidates including John S. D. Eisenhower and Victor Borge. The conversation shifted to managing John Connally’s role within the administration, specifically addressing his sensitivities regarding White House staff interactions and his involvement in reviewing the State of the Union address. Nixon and Haldeman decided to handle the dissemination of the speech draft to Connally with care, coordinating a specific timeline to ensure control over the document's release and revisions.

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44:25I noticed that, uh...
44:28I noticed that, uh...
44:30I noticed that, uh...
45:09What do you think?
45:10It's a little too...
45:11I don't think... Too much royalty type of art.
45:17I mean, we don't have royal families here, I think.
45:20We're not that close to Denmark.
45:23There's not enough Danes here.
45:26Well, there's a hell of a lot of Danes.
45:27Danes in Kalmar are a very small people.
45:30It's the same thing for Sweden.
45:34Yeah, they're very far apart.
45:36The Danes are pretty far apart.
45:46I think John Eisenhower, he's good at things.
45:48I think the thing he was, however it left him, Bill, naturally, if he wants to go, he would be, he's fine.
45:52But I just don't think that he's going to go to a shoot-off.
45:58I mean, he wants to go, but I don't think that he's my first choice.
46:06John Eisenhower and Gilbert Dudley, and I don't think that he's going to go to a shoot-off.
46:39It would bother her not to be able to do it properly.
46:42Well, why don't we just...
46:43I'll tell you what you do.
46:44One, you call her.
46:46Would that be a nice way to do it?
46:50Yeah, she'd like to.
46:52Maybe she'd decide to go.
46:55She can't go, I don't think.
46:59Like in my town?
46:59No, it isn't.
47:00It isn't a good idea.
47:01If we ask her to go, she can't go, then she'll be able to see.
47:04She's the type of appeal over here that doesn't stand.
47:08Yeah, she...
47:09I think so.
47:10He's a dame, isn't he?
47:11Sure.
47:12Well, I'd send him as well.
47:14He's my great friend.
47:38Victor Borges, and I don't know who that man is, but Lawrence Melchior is, and was with me on the 5C, he'd be a good man.
47:45Melchior, and Gilbert Dudley, the farmer's pastor, Russell, the president's pastor, John Eisenhower, which is a nice pastor.
47:58Is that fair enough?
48:40...that we shouldn't try.
48:46I don't think Bob and Peter has the flexibility, something, to read Connelly's mind and so forth, knowing what the hell to do.
48:57I just don't want to have that.
48:59I just don't want to have that.
49:01I can keep an input beforehand that says how to play it, then go with it, and then stay after Connelly.
49:11On the basis we talked about it, the question whether there's one plant there or not.
49:16Do you think I should do that report?
49:28Where do you want to come out?
49:30If it's okay with the company, do you want to come out with a plant?
49:33If that's what you want to do, it's probably better that way.
49:35The plant can go to the photographer.
49:39I think it won't work.
49:41I personally feel that's the best way.
50:01But I don't know whether Conley has the trust in the Pearsons, the Flanagan that I don't have.
50:07I did Flanagan to do exactly what he told, and I think he's totally trustworthy, and I think he will be glad he will be called his man.
50:15That's what, like, you know, I consider.
50:17But nobody would ever gather them, probably, to take one person's instance, you know what I mean?
50:23To speak to Doug Barker himself, I mean, that's why he's a good man.
50:27I believe you are the one.
50:33I believe you are the one.
50:42I believe you are the one.
50:47I believe you are the one.
51:00And then, in the course of the conversation, we could pull in some of the computers that I had spoken about.
51:07And then, I asked John Collins if he could have a comment.
51:11And I don't know where we're at with that.
51:16And he said, well, the President wants you to be in all control around this.
51:23And if you have any doubts in the computer system, it's very easy to find.
51:29He wants to have more folks like we have here in Alabama.
53:05We had a question with him earlier, apparently, that there was a rate prices instruction called on to clear some segment of the State of the Union thing when they're out.
53:17And Conley said, oh, President Tomey is going to give you an advance of the whole state of the union, but apparently it's now changed to ground rules, so that's that sensitivity.
53:28We can undo that by taking a copy of it.
53:30Yeah, he can read the whole thing out.
53:34I'm still working on that, I guess, getting it clear in section by section that this is the draft now.
53:39Oh, I have no objection at all.
53:42I should give the speech draft, not the message.
53:46Is that right?
53:47I have no objection.
53:49He didn't do anything about that.
53:51This is the speech draft.
53:54Tell him that I'd like for him to give you a ring back as you told him.
54:02This is our...
54:08It just came on, and it's getting the graphics we have now.
54:16Virtually all the sections have been cleared.
54:19I mean, well, you know, basically what we wanted, what we wanted earlier, was to clear that and take it to the point and make sure that it was right technically.
54:29All the rest I've done, so no problem at all, it's good.
55:10My final copy.
55:11My final copy.
55:12My final copy.
55:14My final copy.
55:17My final copy.
55:19My final copy.
55:25My final copy.
55:27My final copy.
55:29My final copy.
55:32My final copy.
56:42Well, you can see his position.
56:45He's a proud man.
56:46And he's a very successful man.
56:50And he's smart enough to know that he is as strong as Sandy Kipp.
56:55He's also smart enough to know that he doesn't like to have a bunch of goddamned whippersnappers and pits.
57:02We accept that.
57:02As Democrats, we accept that.
57:05But for cabinet people and others, we're jealous of them.
57:12I think he is wrong in believing that the White House is bad in this sense.
57:18I don't think Erdogan, I know Erdogan doesn't, but I don't believe that his buddy Erdogan is shot.
57:24I don't think Shultz does.
57:26Naturally, I know Tissinger doesn't know most of it.
57:29I'm suspicious of him, I don't know.
57:34But, he's extremely sensitive.
57:40About that car thing,
57:42I think, too, he may have people on his staff that are putting him up for it.
57:48That's the problem, is that the guys over there who have had their battles with the White House, they're using the opportunity of the last two years.
58:00You might say that Preston Steele, who was a lot of my son, uses his mind, but I don't think he takes it.
59:09I mean, it's a very different situation, basically, in my opinion.
1:00:07as to where the problems would lie in it, because the problems will work out just as much as anybody else.
1:00:16Absolutely, and it is when we set this up the wrong way, we can screw it in the worst way.
1:00:20I think the way you could say it, we actually describe it.
1:00:23We describe it by, for instance, what we do is what we do, and how we accomplish it is the other way.
1:00:31How we accomplish it is why can't we focus the proper staff working to
1:01:21Do you have a copy that is not done in my style, in my home, that I want to send over to your common home?
1:01:26Well, do you have a copy of this?
1:01:34What I mean is, do you have a copy at all that I can send over to your home?
1:01:40What do you have?
1:01:41Those are the zeroes, then.
1:01:57He's not supposed to get anything out until another retirement.
1:02:03We're going to wait about 5 o'clock.
1:02:13He's not going to put anything out.
1:02:18So he shouldn't start xeroxing anything yet.
1:02:245 o'clock.
1:02:26Well, what?
1:02:35Yeah, just bear out some coffee.
1:02:36We need coffee.
1:02:37Okay.
1:02:37Let me tell you, this is not the style that was in the press when this was done.
1:02:42I prefer this to the green.
1:02:45That's the way I do it.
1:02:47Yeah.
1:02:48Yeah.
1:02:50I think that's what we've got to do at this point.
1:02:55Let me get a feel of what comes out of that.
1:03:19I think he'll tell you to deal with it that way.
1:03:25If he doesn't want to, we won't do it.
1:03:32Right.
1:03:35Give me a call when you return.
1:03:37Alright.
1:06:17Stop, please.

On January 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Marjorie P. Acker, and Rose Mary Woods met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:50 pm to 2:15 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 315-014 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 315-14

Date: January 19, 1972
Time: 1:50 pm - 2:15 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Denmark
         -Death of King Frederik IX
              -Henry A. Kissinger memorandum
              -William P. Rogers
              -John S. D. Eisenhower
              -John D. Ehrlichman
                    -State Department

     -Danes
          -US constituency
                -California
                -Compared to Swedes
     -Death of King Frederik IX
          -Eisenhower
          -Rogers
          -Guilford Dudley, Jr.
          -Fred J. Russell
          -Valley Knudsen
                -Health
                -Possible call from Haldeman
          -Lauritz Melchior
          -Victor Borge
          -Dudley, Russell and Eisenhower

Appointments
    -Peter M. Flanigan
          -John B. Connally
          -Peter G. Peterson
          -Personality
                -Possible working relationship with Connally
                     -Haldeman’s possible talks with Flanigan and Connally
                     -Flanigan’s possible talk with Connally
                     -Haldeman’s role
                -Compared to Kissinger
          -Possible conversation with Haldeman
                -The President’s views
          -Haldeman’s possible talk with Connally
                -Doubts
                -White House staff
                     -Support of Connally
                           -Ehrlichman
    -Connally's role with administration

State of the Union speech
      -Advance draft review
            -Raymond K. Price, Jr.’s call to Connally
                 -Ehrlichman's report
            -Connally's suggestions
                 -Instruction for Haldeman

                          -Tone
               -Ehrlichman's role
          -Draft
               -Completion
                     -Timing
               -Review
                     -Kissinger
               -Additions
               -Tone
                     -Conciliation
                     -Non-partisanship
          -Length

     Connally
         -Position in Cabinet
         -Relations with Democrats
         -Relations with Cabinet
         -Relations with White House staff
               -Ehrlichman, George P. Shultz and Kissinger
               -Connally's staff
         -Forthcoming conversation with Haldeman
               -State of the Union speech
                     -The President’s schedule
                     -Connally’s review

     White House staff
          -Unknown man
                -Quote
                      -Herbert Stein
          -Ehrlichman, Shultz
          -Connally
                -Relations with other staff
                -Compared to Rogers
                -Ehrlichman, Shultz
                      -Haldeman’s effort
          -Work

Marjorie P. Acker entered at 2:10 pm.

     The President's forthcoming speech
          -Length

Acker left at 2:11 pm.

     Haldeman's schedule
          -Flanigan
               -Paul A. Volcker

[The President talked with an unknown person [Rose Mary Woods?] at an unknown time
between 2:11 pm and 2:15 pm.]

[Conversation No. 315-14A]

     The President's speech draft
          -Copy
               -The President's style
               -Delivery to Connally
                      -Haldeman
               -Price
               -Ronald L. Ziegler
                      -Time of release
               -Reproduction

[End of telephone conversation]

           -The President's reading copy
                -Delivery to Connally
                      -Press copy

     Haldeman's schedule
          -Forthcoming conversation with Flanigan
          -Forthcoming conversation with Connally
          -Call to the President

Haldeman left at 2:15 pm.
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Conversation 315-014, January 17, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/315-014 (accessed September 29, 2026).