Nixon, Haldeman & Acker on King Frederik IX and John Connally

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Wanda, incidental matter.

I noticed that, uh...

I noticed that, uh... Bill Rogers should be here.

Yeah.

And I don't think she's riding so high.

And also, again, Mark didn't know what was going to happen.

I think I did come over there and let Mark address what it looks like we're doing.

Now, the other possibility of a very good man, well, to be able to stand with Josh, are they also suggest that they try to get David to ride a state-suggested job.

And that would be a little bit bigger.

Well, in there, I think that's something that's useful.

What do you think?

It's a little too, I don't think, too much royalty-type of an argument.

I mean, we don't have royal families here, I think.

I mean, we're not that close to Denmark.

There's not a lot of Danes here.

Well, there's a hell of a lot of Danes.

The Danes are very important.

They're very important people, especially in Sweden.

Yeah, they're very important.

The Danes are pretty good friends.

I think John Eisenhower, he's good at things.

I think the things he was, however it left him to build on it, naturally, if he wants to go, he would be, he's fine.

But I just don't think that he's going to go to a shoot-em-up.

I mean, he wants to go, but I don't think that he's my first choice.

If he are, then I think John Eisenhower and Gilbert Dudley, and if they don't come to it, we won't do it.

It's not a bad idea.

I don't know.

I'm sure she can't go.

The trouble is, though, that she's sick.

You know, she could hardly walk.

Yes, it's really...

It would bother her not to be able to do it properly.

Well, why don't we just, I'll tell you what you do.

One, you call her.

Would that be a nice way to do it?

Yeah, she'd like to.

Or even maybe she'd decide to go.

She can't go, I don't think.

Like in my town?

No, it isn't.

It isn't a good idea.

If we ask her to go, she can't go.

Then she'll be able to see.

She's the type of appeal over here that doesn't stand.

Yeah, she...

Possibly could go.

She might work it up and do it.

Unless they say she's in good shape.

Might be a great thing.

Why don't you see if she is in a condition where she could go.

So I'd send her.

How about the singer?

He's still living?

As far as North York?

I don't think so.

He's a day, isn't he?

Sure.

Well, I'd send him as well.

He's my great friend.

Victor Fargo, then.

I don't know where that dog is.

But Lawrence Melchior is, and was with me on the 5C.

He'd be a good one.

Melchior.

And Gilbert Dudley, the farmer's pastor.

Russell, the president's pastor.

John Eisenhower, which is a nice pastor.

Is that fair enough?

In fact, on the conversation, the more I think about it, the more I feel that you're having a preliminary conversation rather than just take my disappointment.

Of course, you know, it is to be better than that.

that we shouldn't try.

I don't think Bob and Peter has the flexibility, subtly, to read Connelly's mind and so forth, knowing what the hell to do with it.

I just don't want to have that.

I just don't want them to have that.

I can keep an input beforehand as to how to play it and then go with it, and then stay afterwards and talk to Connelly.

on the basis that we talked about it, the question whether there's one spot.

Do you think I should do that before?

Where do you want to come out?

If it's okay with the company, do you want to come out with a plan?

If that's what you want to do, it's probably better that way.

The plan is to go to the photographer.

I think it won't work.

I personally feel that's the best way.

But I don't know whether Conley has the trust in Peterson.

I didn't find him to do exactly what he told him.

I think he's totally trustworthy, and I think he will be proud of his man.

That's what I feel.

But nobody would ever gather that from Conley.

He didn't need one person.

You know what I mean?

To speak to Doug Bartlett himself, I mean, that's why he's a good man.

Well, in any event, I believe you ought to go with me.

I believe you ought to go with me.

course of the conversation, we can pull in some of the computers that I just worked on.

And then, and then, ask John Collins if he could have a comment.

And I don't know where we're at with that.

And he would say, well, the President wants to do a lot of control around this.

And if you have any doubts in the computer system, we're at great times.

He wants to have more folks like we have here in Alabama.

borrowing from others the other day on national security and other areas that we, as you and quite a lot of staff, we want to do everything we can to take out burdens from them.

And as early as possible, we have been told that we want to be sure to tell them there's not going to be interrogation, but it's important.

What do you mean?

We had a question with him earlier, apparently, that there is a rate prices instruction called Connelly to clear some segment of the State of the Union thing when they're out.

And Connelly said, oh, President Tomey is going to give you an advance of the whole state of the union, but apparently you can now change the ground rules, so that's that sensitivity.

And we can undo that by taking a copy of it.

Yeah, he can read the whole thing out.

I'm still working on that, I guess, getting it cleared in section one.

Section one, this is the draft now.

Oh, I have no objection.

I should give the speech draft, not the message.

Is that right?

We are going to have to finish it.

That's it.

He didn't say anything about that.

This is the speech draft.

Tell him that I'd like for him to give you a ring back as we talk about this.

This is our...

Just came on and giving the draft.

Virtually all the sections were cleared.

Well, basically what we wanted, what we wanted earlier was to clear that and take it to the point and be sure that it was right technically.

All the rest I've done, so no problem at all.

It's good.

You might have a very good chance.

I doubt you will.

You might have a good chance.

I doubt you will.

That's the way you have to do it.

I had a lot of cases where I had to do it.

Unless there's something.

The new sections are clear.

Yeah.

That's the only thing that's new in speech.

Well, there's the other one.

You're right.

Yeah.

It's clear from five.

I'm telling you, you will note that I followed exactly the tone that you discussed, and so did your own head.

Late on, I did not draw a sword, so the part of my master's right fell apart in the end.

Time out, 35 minutes later, 35 minutes later.

Very good.

Cut me off a little more, brother.

Be sure to agree that I made it.

Thank you.

Well, you can see his position a lot.

He's a proud man.

And he's a very successful man.

And he's smart enough to know that he is as strong as Sandy Kim.

He's also smart enough to know that he doesn't like to have a bunch of goddamn whippersnappers and pits.

We accept that.

As Democrats, we accept that.

But for cabinet people and others, we're jealous of them.

I think he is wrong in believing that the White House is faster than the Senate.

I don't think Erlichman, I know Erlichman doesn't, but I don't believe there's anybody in Erlichman's shop.

I don't think Shultz does.

Naturally, I know Tissinger doesn't know most of it, you know what I mean?

Yeah, I'm suspicious of him, I don't know.

But he's extremely sensitive.

Oh, about that McCord.

I think, too, he may have people on his staff that are putting him up for it.

That's the problem.

You've got guys over there who have had their battles with the White House that are using the opportunity that we've got to do it.

You might say that Preston Steele, who's a lot less time with the White House, uses his mind, but I don't think he can take it.

I.

I said, I don't know what to do.

I don't know what to do.

I mean, it's much easier for White House staff people than we people to deal with.

On the other hand, we people don't do good.

Conley is a strong man, and he's hard to deal with.

I mean, it's a very different situation, basically,

Roger, he's difficult to deal with because the band isn't another band.

It isn't because of strength.

He isn't a hell of an asset to us.

On the other hand, Bob, don't spur him and Schultz realize what an asset economy they must have.

They're only raising the thing in the interest of that.

In all fairness, I was pushing them.

They shouldn't, right?

as to where the problems would lie in it, because the problems will work out just as much as anybody else.

Absolutely, and it isn't that we set this up the wrong way.

We can screw it in worse than anybody else.

I think the way you could say it, we actually described it last, for instance.

What we do is how we accomplish it is the other way.

How we accomplish it is why can't we focus the proper staff working to

Let it down to 3,900 words.

That's good.

Clear.

Okay, level.

At least that way, I think I'd better go.

I'm trying to catch people.

You'd better go.

Right now.

What'd you tell them?

Do you have a copy that is not done in my style, in my home, that I want to send over to your common home, small, right away, and see if on another day I can get one?

Well, you have a copy of this, then.

What I mean is, do you have a copy at all that I can send over to your home?

What do you have?

Those are the zeroes, then.

He's not supposed to get anything out until another retirement.

We're going to wait about five o'clock.

He's not going to put anything out.

So he shouldn't start zeroxing anything yet until five o'clock.

Well, what?

Yeah, just bear out some coffee.

We need coffee, okay?

Let me tell you, this is not the style that was in the press when this was done.

I prefer this to the green.

That's the way I do it.

You can't just say it three times a day.

that we have in the press.

This is my working copy.

I think that's what we've got to do at this point.

Let me get a feel of what comes out of that.

Give me a call when you return.

All right.

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