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I noticed that, uh...

What do you think?

It's a little too...

I don't think... Too much royalty type of art.

I mean, we don't have royal families here, I think.

We're not that close to Denmark.

There's not enough Danes here.

Well, there's a hell of a lot of Danes.

Danes in Kalmar are a very small people.

It's the same thing for Sweden.

Yeah, they're very far apart.

The Danes are pretty far apart.

I think John Eisenhower, he's good at things.

I think the thing he was, however it left him, Bill, naturally, if he wants to go, he would be, he's fine.

But I just don't think that he's going to go to a shoot-off.

I mean, he wants to go, but I don't think that he's my first choice.

John Eisenhower and Gilbert Dudley, and I don't think that he's going to go to a shoot-off.

It would bother her not to be able to do it properly.

Well, why don't we just...

I'll tell you what you do.

One, you call her.

Would that be a nice way to do it?

Yeah, she'd like to.

Maybe she'd decide to go.

She can't go, I don't think.

Like in my town?

No, it isn't.

It isn't a good idea.

If we ask her to go, she can't go, then she'll be able to see.

She's the type of appeal over here that doesn't stand.

Yeah, she...

I think so.

He's a dame, isn't he?

Sure.

Well, I'd send him as well.

He's my great friend.

Victor Borges, and I don't know who that man is, but Lawrence Melchior is, and was with me on the 5C, he'd be a good man.

Melchior, and Gilbert Dudley, the farmer's pastor, Russell, the president's pastor, John Eisenhower, which is a nice pastor.

Is that fair enough?

...that we shouldn't try.

I don't think Bob and Peter has the flexibility, something, to read Connelly's mind and so forth, knowing what the hell to do.

I just don't want to have that.

I can keep an input beforehand that says how to play it, then go with it, and then stay after Connelly.

On the basis we talked about it, the question whether there's one plant there or not.

Do you think I should do that report?

Where do you want to come out?

If it's okay with the company, do you want to come out with a plant?

If that's what you want to do, it's probably better that way.

The plant can go to the photographer.

I think it won't work.

I personally feel that's the best way.

But I don't know whether Conley has the trust in the Pearsons, the Flanagan that I don't have.

I did Flanagan to do exactly what he told, and I think he's totally trustworthy, and I think he will be glad he will be called his man.

That's what, like, you know, I consider.

But nobody would ever gather them, probably, to take one person's instance, you know what I mean?

To speak to Doug Barker himself, I mean, that's why he's a good man.

I believe you are the one.

And then, in the course of the conversation, we could pull in some of the computers that I had spoken about.

And then, I asked John Collins if he could have a comment.

And I don't know where we're at with that.

And he said, well, the President wants you to be in all control around this.

And if you have any doubts in the computer system, it's very easy to find.

He wants to have more folks like we have here in Alabama.

We had a question with him earlier, apparently, that there was a rate prices instruction called on to clear some segment of the State of the Union thing when they're out.

And Conley said, oh, President Tomey is going to give you an advance of the whole state of the union, but apparently it's now changed to ground rules, so that's that sensitivity.

We can undo that by taking a copy of it.

Yeah, he can read the whole thing out.

I'm still working on that, I guess, getting it clear in section by section that this is the draft now.

Oh, I have no objection at all.

I should give the speech draft, not the message.

Is that right?

I have no objection.

He didn't do anything about that.

This is the speech draft.

Tell him that I'd like for him to give you a ring back as you told him.

This is our...

It just came on, and it's getting the graphics we have now.

Virtually all the sections have been cleared.

I mean, well, you know, basically what we wanted, what we wanted earlier, was to clear that and take it to the point and make sure that it was right technically.

All the rest I've done, so no problem at all, it's good.

My final copy.

Well, you can see his position.

He's a proud man.

And he's a very successful man.

And he's smart enough to know that he is as strong as Sandy Kipp.

He's also smart enough to know that he doesn't like to have a bunch of goddamned whippersnappers and pits.

We accept that.

As Democrats, we accept that.

But for cabinet people and others, we're jealous of them.

I think he is wrong in believing that the White House is bad in this sense.

I don't think Erdogan, I know Erdogan doesn't, but I don't believe that his buddy Erdogan is shot.

I don't think Shultz does.

Naturally, I know Tissinger doesn't know most of it.

I'm suspicious of him, I don't know.

But, he's extremely sensitive.

About that car thing,

I think, too, he may have people on his staff that are putting him up for it.

That's the problem, is that the guys over there who have had their battles with the White House, they're using the opportunity of the last two years.

You might say that Preston Steele, who was a lot of my son, uses his mind, but I don't think he takes it.

I mean, it's a very different situation, basically, in my opinion.

as to where the problems would lie in it, because the problems will work out just as much as anybody else.

Absolutely, and it is when we set this up the wrong way, we can screw it in the worst way.

I think the way you could say it, we actually describe it.

We describe it by, for instance, what we do is what we do, and how we accomplish it is the other way.

How we accomplish it is why can't we focus the proper staff working to

Do you have a copy that is not done in my style, in my home, that I want to send over to your common home?

Well, do you have a copy of this?

What I mean is, do you have a copy at all that I can send over to your home?

What do you have?

Those are the zeroes, then.

He's not supposed to get anything out until another retirement.

We're going to wait about 5 o'clock.

He's not going to put anything out.

So he shouldn't start xeroxing anything yet.

5 o'clock.

Well, what?

Yeah, just bear out some coffee.

We need coffee.

Okay.

Let me tell you, this is not the style that was in the press when this was done.

I prefer this to the green.

That's the way I do it.

Yeah.

I think that's what we've got to do at this point.

Let me get a feel of what comes out of that.

I think he'll tell you to deal with it that way.

If he doesn't want to, we won't do it.

Right.

Give me a call when you return.

Alright.

Stop, please.