{"conversationCode":"315-021","tapeNumber":315,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-315-021","startDateTime":"1972-01-17T20:44:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-17T20:58:00.000Z","startDate":"17-Jan-1972","startTime":"3:44 PM","endDate":"17-Jan-1972","endTime":"3:58 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Staubach, Roger;","description":"On January 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Roger Staubach met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:44 pm and 3:58 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 315-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 315-21\n\nDate: January 19, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:44 pm and 3:58 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President resumed dictation of a letter to Roger Staubach.\n\n[Continued from Conversation No. 315-19]\n\n     Staubach\n          -Performance in Super Bowl\n               -Press reports\n                     -Washington Star\n          -Significance to youth\n\nThe President dictated a letter to the editor of the Ladies Home Journal [John Mack Carter] at an\nunknown time.\n\n     Instructions to Rose Mary Woods\n           -Editor or publisher of Ladies Home Journal\n                -The President's possible contact\n                       -Ronald L. Ziegler\n                       -Herbert G. Klein\n\n     Thelma C. (”Pat”) Nixon\n          -Story in Ladies Home Journal\n               -The President's appreciation\n                     -Writer [Lenore Hershey]\n                     -Photographers\n\n     Ladies Home Journal\n          -Hannah (Milhous) Nixon","filename":["315a.mp3","315b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:41:45","tapeEnd":"01:45:36","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Staubach, Roger"],"prevCode":"315-020","nextCode":"315-022","tapeTranscriptFile":"315a.mp3,315b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":6115.05,"end":6116.79,"text":"Thank you for watching!"},{"start":6176.64,"end":6178.28,"text":"Are you sure?"},{"start":6179.22,"end":6179.92,"text":"No, but..."},{"start":6179.96,"end":6189.08,"text":"The base is going to be something like this."},{"start":6189.2,"end":6189.92,"text":"What?"},{"start":6190.14,"end":6192.54,"text":"I don't remember the form."},{"start":6192.66,"end":6197.56,"text":"I don't remember the form, either."},{"start":6197.6,"end":6198.12,"text":"Sorry, guys."},{"start":6198.4,"end":6201.14,"text":"It's a traditional argument."},{"start":6202.12,"end":6202.82,"text":"Which?"},{"start":6202.9,"end":6205.44,"text":"It's a traditional argument."},{"start":6205.86,"end":6206.22,"text":"Yes."},{"start":6332.9,"end":6340.88,"text":"You take this over to the rails, please."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":6105.75,"end":6340.875,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon dictated a letter to Dallas Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach, following up on their interactions regarding Staubach's Super Bowl performance and his positive influence on American youth. Additionally, Nixon directed his secretary, Rose Mary Woods, to draft correspondence to John Mack Carter of the Ladies Home Journal. These instructions aimed to express the President's appreciation for a feature story about First Lady Pat Nixon and the involvement of Hannah Milhous Nixon.","topics":["Roger Staubach","Super Bowl","Ladies Home Journal","Pat Nixon","Public Relations","Correspondence"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T14:42:11.271Z"},"topicSlugs":["roger-staubach","super-bowl","ladies-home-journal","pat-nixon","public-relations","correspondence"],"audioDurationSec":231,"audioFiles":[{"file":"315a.mp3","bytes":120900329,"durationSec":7400.66,"bitrate":130691,"missing":false},{"file":"315b.mp3","bytes":61200792,"durationSec":3834.12,"bitrate":127697,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:41.567Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/315a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/315b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/315-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/315/conversation-315-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}