Nixon White House TapesTape 316 › Conversation 316-004

Nixon, Woods & Kissinger on Vietnam War and Speechwriting

Tuesday, January 25, 1972 · 2:25 PM–2:33 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Woods, Rose Mary;  Kissinger, Henry A.;  Woods, Rose Mary;  Acker, Marjorie P.Conversation316-004 onTape 316 (tape position 01:42:41–01:51:05)StartTuesday, January 25, 1972 at 2:25 PMEndTuesday, January 25, 1972 at 2:33 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 316-004 ↗

President Nixon met with Rose Mary Woods, Henry Kissinger, and Marjorie Acker to finalize the text and pacing of an upcoming major address on Vietnam. The participants coordinated last-minute revisions to the speech, discussed international diplomatic reactions—specifically regarding the French government—and reviewed feedback from administration officials like Robert Finch. Additionally, Nixon established communication protocols for the evening, directing staff to screen all incoming calls so he could focus exclusively on the speech preparations.

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1:42:49He feels strongly about it.
1:42:51Well, he may be able to, but I want to see.
1:43:17Okay, because Peggy said he's got three or four tantrums about getting it in.
1:43:25Yeah.
1:43:25That's the word, Peggy.
1:43:26I don't see the tantrums in her.
1:43:29Let me put it in.
1:43:32All right.
1:43:34Yeah, I'll put it in.
1:43:37Hi, everyone.
1:43:37I was going to say that others brought over this document.
1:43:41I have certain objections to it.
1:43:42The point that I'm under is that there is no...
1:43:48There's no problem.
1:44:18I wonder if it would be a little safer for you to say that.
1:44:27What I'm getting at is I'm just not sure that the French government can say anything about that.
1:44:36If you feel it's going to go through, is that true, that reaction out there?
1:44:43Uh-huh.
1:44:44Okay.
1:44:44Okay.
1:44:47Fine, fine.
1:44:48Now, you're going to get a facade .
1:44:49Oh, I know, I know, I know.
1:44:57But I just, you know, .
1:45:00Let's see, it's 7 o'clock that we meet with the Congress, right?
1:45:12Yeah.
1:45:14Oh, I was going to ask you, how did Brown get along with the press?
1:45:45Okay, fine, I'll see you at seven o'clock.
1:46:12Has anybody else seen it?
1:46:13Did you get a reaction?
1:46:15How's Hayden?
1:46:15Wait a minute.
1:46:17It is a little bit.
1:46:28One thing Bob, one thing Bob Finchridge, he's here.
1:46:32He just left.
1:46:32So I told him about it.
1:46:40I think you say it all the truth, but you know, we don't, the idea that you should come down hard on the fact that Boise allowed us to go to China, please.
1:47:15It's okay.
1:47:20Can I change the page now?
1:47:23Yeah, change the whole page.
1:47:28You don't know how long it is.
1:47:43Where is that now?
1:47:48Okay, fine, thanks.
1:47:50Thank you.
1:47:51It's very good.
1:47:53I think it's an improvement of the cuts and things.
1:48:01I bet that's fine.
1:48:06all right listen uh
1:48:35I was going to ask you, I was supposed to go have dinner with the hill from the Buchanan, not because I want to, but I'm sure I'll get beat up in the head by the Buchanan.
1:48:50By the Buchanan.
1:48:52But I can say I have to work on the show or something.
1:49:09You better go.
1:49:13I think what I'll do is I've got to see the quarter.
1:49:31I'll just go over here.
1:50:00Well, I'm going to call them, because if they're not, if they're entering, it's kind of, if you can stop and let them down, I'm not going to go.
1:50:07I know.
1:50:08You might be acting with them.
1:50:11I'll be able to see you.
1:50:16I'll be glad to.
1:50:17Sure, I'll call her and tell her to get through with it.
1:50:21I know there'll be a lot of calls to you, but I wanted to be able to let her know.
1:50:26All right.
1:50:28I won't be able to take any calls after this, because I'll be in the quarter.
1:50:35You might just tell the operator that we have no calls tonight.
1:50:41OK. Well, they'll probably wait and see.
1:50:43We don't need to tell them to refer to calls if you want to hear them.
1:50:46Just refer them to all of them.
1:50:49All of them, calls from .
1:50:51OK.
1:50:52I'm sorry.
1:50:52When I said I'd go, I didn't know what to do.
1:50:54I thought it was an accident.
1:50:58Uh, just get the algae in there.

On January 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Henry A. Kissinger, Rose Mary Woods, and Marjorie P. Acker met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:25 pm to 2:33 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 316-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 316-4

Date: January 25, 1972
Time: 2:25 pm - 2:33 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

     The President's forthcoming Vietnam speech
          -Preparation
               -Changes
                      -Henry A. Kissinger's views
                            -Reading copy

[The President talked with Kissinger at an unknown time between 2:25 pm and 2:33 pm.]

[Conversation No. 316-4A]

           -Woods's delivery
           -Possible mention of France
                -Maurice Schumann
                -Kissinger's briefing
                -French Government

     Kissinger
          -Health
               -Schedule

     The President's schedule
          -Meeting with Congress
               -Kissinger
          -Forthcoming speech

     Ronald L. Ziegler's briefing

     The President's forthcoming speech
          -Georges J.R. Pompidou
          -Nguyen Van Thieu
          -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

The President conferred with Woods at an unknown time.

     Instruction

[End of conferral]

     The President's forthcoming speech
          -Robert H. Finch's views
               -Michael J. Mansfield
                      -All Indochina Peace Conference
                            -Nine-point program
               -Indochina
                      -Cambodia and Laos

[End of telephone conversation]

          -Change
          -Length
               -Marjorie P. Acker

[Woods talked with Acker at an unknown time between 2:25 pm and 2:33 pm.]

[Conversation No. 316-4B]

                     -Page count

[End of telephone conversation]

     Laura Peterson
          -Father, William H. Peterson
          -Call
                -Request
                     -Tour [?]

     Woods's schedule
         -Ambassador and Mrs. Robert C. Hill and Ambassador And Mrs. Wiley T. Buchanan

     Ambassador Hill
         -New Hampshire gubernatorial race

     The President's schedule
          -William J. Porter

*****************************************************************

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 22s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

*****************************************************************

     Woods's schedule
         -Dinner arrangements
               -Call to unknown person
                     -Viewing the President's speech

     The President's schedule
          -Calls for the President
                -Porter
                -White House operator
                      -Woods
                      -Haldeman and Charles W. Colson

     Woods's schedule

Woods left at 2:33 pm.
  • 316-001 12:32 PM · 1 hr 38 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Robert H. Finch, Manolo Sanchez, White House operator, Rose Mary Woods, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:32 pm to 2:15 pm.
  • 316-002 2:15 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:15 pm and 2:25 pm.
  • 316-003 2:15 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:15 pm and 2:25 pm.
  • 316-005 2:33 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:33 pm and 2:45 pm.
  • 316-006 2:45 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:45 pm to 2:55 pm.
  • 316-007 2:55 PM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:55 pm and 4:35 pm.
  • 316-008 2:55 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:55 pm and 4:35 pm.
  • 316-009 2:55 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:55 pm and 4:35 pm.

Conversation 316-004, January 25, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/316-004 (accessed September 18, 2026).