Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 317-017
Date: Monday, January 24, 1972 at 4:27 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Mitchell, John N.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/317-017

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[0:00] Hello?
[0:06] Hi, John, how are you?
[0:11] Yeah, we did.
[0:11] I spent about a couple of days on these two nights over at Walker's, so that was pleasant.
[0:16] The weather was fine, not the best, but good enough.
[0:21] Thank you.
[0:22] We're ready for the next week.
[0:23] We're going to go tomorrow night on our field.
[0:28] How about that?
[0:28] I just finished my draft, just this minute, so we'll get it on the way, get it on the crew board, you know, it'll make some hell.
[0:50] Do you think so?
[0:51] Well, it's a very well-done draft.
[0:52] I really believe it's, you know, a matter of fact.
[0:53] Good job, you know, John McLaughlin, everything he had, you know, six months, you know,
[0:57] Where does the now stand?
[1:17] Is there any chance to get none?
[1:25] Sure.
[1:49] Do they have a candidate?
[1:50] I don't know.
[1:50] I don't know.
[1:50] I don't know.
[1:51] I have a chance.
[1:51] I don't know.
[1:51] In other words, we're not going down there to use the Senate.
[1:52] We're going to drop a little more dust.
[1:53] No.
[1:54] No.
[1:54] Well, Max has a little time.
[2:21] Anyway, he's doing pretty good.
[2:22] He's making great decisions.
[2:22] And he looks like, you know, he's doing great.
[2:23] He's doing great.
[2:24] He's doing great.
[2:33] We had a very good talk with Rizzo today.
[2:47] He was in, and they talked about getting money from the government.
[2:57] And, of course, what to do.
[2:57] And they revealed the whole board, all the way.
[2:58] Yes, sir, we had a few arguments.
[2:59] And Rizzo said, he said the question was wrong.
[3:00] He agreed with the 2011 convention.
[3:02] Otherwise, they'd tell them before that.
[3:23] They'll say, you're going to wait and see whether or not you're going to have any party announcement or not.
[3:25] You can't have any support.
[3:25] They don't want to stay loose.
[3:26] Those facts will have one hell of an effect.
[3:27] They'll just stay loose and they'll break.
[3:28] The only good thing they need to be done in the first anniversary of all of this is to be effective.
[3:30] And second, I feel very welcome to follow through on the money front.
[3:53] In other words, the LEAA, transportation, and the other money that came after that.
[3:55] And third, just to keep an awful close touch with them, you know?
[3:56] I mean, that's right.
[3:57] Right.
[3:57] And absolutely, I can, I think, go a long way.
[3:58] And I think people just think about everything for a few weeks or so.
[3:59] That's right.
[4:00] comfortable, and I also look up there.
[4:21] You ask him that.
[4:22] Yeah.
[4:22] That's what I meant.
[4:22] I think he looked, he asked.
[4:23] He says, he says, he guaranteed very much in that case.
[4:24] Of course, his line is very popular in the city of America.
[4:25] And he's like, without you, it's a little small.
[4:26] Even if it is a Jewish place.
[4:29] Oh, sure, of course they are, yeah.
[4:52] The entire John of Forest Hills looks like that, too, I think.
[4:56] Brother John, Lindsey, and all that.
[5:00] What else is he going to do?
[5:10] He's going to play ball with our friend Buckley.
[5:12] Why?
[5:13] Oh, I see now.
[5:20] You're right, you're right, you're right.
[5:29] What do you hear on the whole noise?
[5:50] Is the gunner doing some better out there, or is it kind of not what it looks like?
[5:52] All right, all right.
[5:53] It's the same situation we are experiencing when we get marred.
[5:55] We already have hope, but it's just a question of getting the service and the public to get rid of the marred people.
[6:02] You know, a Democrat.
[6:26] Oh, I didn't know I had it.
[6:29] Yeah.
[6:31] I heard that Les Aaron is a person who can't pay more.
[6:57] What are they trying to do?
[6:57] They can't pay as little as they can.
[6:58] Percy certainly isn't in trouble with it.
[7:02] Yeah.
[7:30] Yeah.
[7:30] Yeah.
[7:30] Yeah.
[7:30] Yeah.
[7:33] No, you're right.
[7:42] He goes to every damn thing, John.
[7:50] He goes there, he's got fish fry and so forth, and that's always very good.
[8:01] I hope you're getting the pull together now, or else it won't.
[8:10] Back in the after hours, you know, you blitz back in the stadium.
[8:37] You've got some highlights in the game, at least one area you ought to be better on.
[8:39] This time, you played well.
[8:39] You couldn't have been better.
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[9:11] Yeah.
[9:39] Yeah.
[9:39] Yeah.
[9:39] We need it.
[9:39] We need every one of them.
[9:40] Yeah.
[9:40] We ought to have a subject on it.
[9:41] What do you think Br'er Wallace is?
[10:12] He runs well in Florida.
[10:37] He will back here.
[10:37] He's a giant, and there is a cool, awesome part of him.
[10:40] It's not really, not really true.
[11:08] I'm trying to select there, but I don't want to call it personal.
[11:11] How long do you think Hubert can survive?
[11:40] Do you think he'll go?
[11:43] He said he could do it.
[12:05] He would help him with the whole thing because he's getting a hell of a lot of listeners.
[12:07] On the other hand, it can't last.
[12:08] It can't last in the sense that it's so damn early.
[12:09] Although he will get those kind of primaries.
[12:10] And then if he doesn't, that's a great way to cut you off.
[12:11] The records, I figured, are 79% of the people.
[12:14] All right.
[12:45] Okay, I'll head back to my stage and try to figure out something to say to the people tomorrow.
[13:20] But I think we've got a pretty good offering.
[13:50] Well, we'll see.
[14:10] They'll have to squeal for a while.
[14:21] We should see if our friends tell me about the collapse.
[14:47] They're not going to collapse.
[14:47] I follow other reports on this.
[14:48] We always, of course, get very frightened.
[14:49] You know, predictions about high ones and bad ones.
[14:50] And they're going to have some attacks, but my God, it's obvious to me that they're going to come under an American aircraft.
[15:12] And I hope they're going to come under an American aircraft.
[15:14] They're going to come under an American aircraft.
[15:15] They're going to come under an American aircraft.
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[15:59] I'll do it.
[16:12] Try to build up.
[16:13] Yeah.
[16:13] That's right.
[16:13] Mm-hmm.
[16:13] That's... That's...
[16:14] Okay, John.
[16:14] John.