{"conversationCode":"318-017","tapeNumber":318,"conversationNumber":17,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-318-017","startDateTime":"1972-02-02T19:04:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-02-02T19:06:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Feb-1972","startTime":"2:04 PM","endDate":"2-Feb-1972","endTime":"2:06 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On February 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:04 pm to 2:06 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 318-017 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 318-17\n\nDate: February 2, 1972\nTime: 2:04 pm - 2:06 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 20-25]","filename":["318-017.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:44:28","tapeEnd":"01:47:06","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"318-016","nextCode":"318-018","transcript":[{"start":0.08,"end":28.89,"text":"So I was wondering, I know there's a little man that comes in recently, but as you were mentioning in the paragraph, there's probably a reaction among your friends and friends, and they write some good, they write some very good, I didn't, they move very, you know, they move the TV."},{"start":28.91,"end":29.43,"text":"What did you do last year?"},{"start":30.96,"end":59.37,"text":"sure, well it's not to be sure, but they, they're there."},{"start":59.39,"end":59.51,"text":"Right."},{"start":59.53,"end":59.63,"text":"Good."},{"start":59.65,"end":59.75,"text":"Good."},{"start":59.77,"end":59.87,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":59.89,"end":60.31,"text":"What else do you see?"},{"start":60.33,"end":60.43,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":61.83,"end":90.79,"text":"I think on this well-earned good one to get the hell out of the way you understand"},{"start":91.41,"end":112.58,"text":"Don't let them, don't let anybody drive you off to the point you're there."},{"start":112.6,"end":112.94,"text":"We're all for it."},{"start":112.96,"end":113.64,"text":"We've held us a hell of a victory."},{"start":113.66,"end":116.14,"text":"We've been fighting for it for two and a half years, a hundred years, a year and a half ago."},{"start":116.16,"end":117.22,"text":"We've got two and a half years to be working for it."},{"start":117.24,"end":118.73,"text":"The Congress, we're trying to get motion and we've been working all meals."},{"start":118.75,"end":119.85,"text":"Actually, I'm just delighted to go to one of his farms."},{"start":120.72,"end":128.42,"text":"Okay, John."},{"start":128.44,"end":128.64,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler discuss media coverage and the administration's public relations strategy. Nixon emphasizes the importance of maintaining a strong political stance and not allowing external pressures to dictate their agenda. The brief exchange focuses on celebrating recent administrative progress and ensuring the staff remains focused on long-term policy goals despite congressional challenges.","topics":["Public Relations","Media Coverage","Political Strategy","White House Administration","Congressional Relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T14:47:30.776Z"},"topicSlugs":["public-relations","media-coverage","political-strategy","white-house-administration","congressional-relations"],"audioDurationSec":129,"audioFiles":[{"file":"318-017.mp3","bytes":5154289,"durationSec":128.71,"bitrate":320362,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:41.568Z","transcriptGapSeconds":79,"transcriptGapShare":0.61,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/318-017.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/318-017","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/318/conversation-318-017","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}