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Conversation 318-033

TapeTape 318StartWednesday, February 2, 1972 at 3:25 PMEndWednesday, February 2, 1972 at 3:30 PMTape start time02:50:51Tape end time02:53:58ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Lewis, Hobart D.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AudioNARA Description

On February 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Hobart D. Lewis met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 3:25 pm and 3:30 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 318-033 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 318-33

Date: February 2, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:25 pm and 3:30 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President replayed a portion of a previously recorded dictabelt recording.

     Reader’s Digest article
         -New Jersey

The President resumed dictating a letter to Hobart D. Lewis.

[Continuation of Conversation No. 318-31]

     William T. Cahill
          -Performance as Governor of New Jersey
                -Relations with John N. Mitchell
                     -Racketeers
                -Environmental program
                -Secondary and higher education
           -Possible second article in Reader’s Digest
                -Suggested titles
                -Progress in New Jersey
                -Mitchell
                -Possible quotes from the President
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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just a little over a year ago, which was extremely derogatory with regard to New Jersey.
There it is.
Kale, as you probably know, has been doing one of the best jobs in any government in the country.
On a number of fronts.
He has worked closely with John Metzoli, Sidney Little, I don't know, corrupt trackers in New Jersey.
He has probably the best program on the environment in any state in the country.
He has made enormous progress in the field of secondary and higher education.
He was out of rank in these areas where
I was very old when I was off the street back then.
You will see that New Jersey deserves a second order from him back then.
And I frankly agree with him.
Without trying to compromise the other part of the thing, I think it might be because most of the New Jersey
I don't know what to say.
I'm not going to get very close, but...
I'm not going to get very close, but...
I'm not going to get very close, but...
All right.
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