Conversation: 319-011
Prev: 319-010 Next: 319-012Start Date: 7-Feb-1972 3:50 PM
End Date: 7-Feb-1972 4:40 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.;Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:20:52
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:10:28
NARA Description:
On February 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:50 pm to 4:40 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 319-011 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 319-11
Date: February 7, 1972
Time: 3:50 pm - 4:40 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.
Welfare
-Ehrlichman’s forthcoming meeting with Russell B. Long
Dean of Duke University‘s Law School, Joseph T. Sneed
-Item for President
-President’s class
-Brian Bullock [sp?]
-Unknown person
-Number of President’s class
-Lon L. Fuller’s views
-Recommendation for Sneed for the Supreme Court
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Busing
-Age
-Wife
-Background
-Stanford University
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Sneed and California state politics
-Possible appointment
-President’s schedule
-Ehrlichman’s experience at Duke University’s Law School
Busing
-Lawyers’ meeting at Camp David
-President’s options
-Support of one of the existing proposals
-Timing
-Thomas J. (“Tom”) Steed’s views
-Discharge petition
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.-William E. Brock, III constitutional amendment
-President’s options
-“People’s dilemma”
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 319-11 (cont.)
-Emanuel Celler
-Possible filibuster
-William M. Colmer
-Steed’s views
-1972 campaign
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Democrats chances
-President’s options
-President’s options
-Possible constitutional amendment
-Different possibilities
-Possible effect in South
-Dual school system
-President’s possible meeting with Baker, Brock, Norman F. Lent and
Steed
-Timing
-Forthcoming trip to the People’s Republic of China
[PRC]
-Concerns from the President
-Suggested action taken by the President
-Justice Department, Department of Health,
Education and Welfare [HEW]
-Elliot L. Richardson’s views
-Legislative approach
-Memorandum
-Views of Ehrlichman and Edward L. Morgan
-Impact on North
-Legislation involved
-Lawyers’ meeting
-William H. Rehnquist’s replacement
-Frank F. Church amendment
-Richardson’s representative
-President’s options
-Reiterating position on busing
-Timing
-Democratic convention
-Timing
-Democrats’ candidates’ options
-Opinions on busing
-South
-Northern liberals
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 319-11 (cont.)
-George S. McGovern
-Joseph W. Alsop’s column, February 7, 1972
-Frank F. Mankiewicz, Joseph L. Rauh, Jr.
-Stance on busing
-Stewart J.O. Alsop
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Edward M. Kennedy
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Florida
-Strategic nature of the South
-George C. Wallace’s actions
-Democratic candidates stance on busing
-G. Harrold Carswell
-Jackson’s statements, February 6, 1972
-“Meet the Press”
-Jackson’s child in pubic school
-Muskie, Humphrey
-Chances for candidacy
-Issues involved
-Wallace
-Gaining support for candidacy
-Florida
-President’s options
-Timing
-Schedule
-Baker, Brock
-Richardson, Attorney General
-Timing of meeting
-Return from PRC trip
-Discharge petition
-Baker, Brock
-Possible constitutional amendment
-Support from the President
-Court decisions
-Timing
-Richmond
-Virginia school merger
-John N. Mitchell’s views
-President’s forthcoming press conference
-Involvement of the Federal Government
-Bill Shirley’s question
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 319-11 (cont.)
-Judge [Robert R. Marhige, Jr.]
-Appointment
-Consolidation cases
-Timing
-Lawyers’ meeting
-Camp David
-Effects
-HEW
-Department of Justice
-President’s schedule
-Trip to Florida
-Ehrlichman, John B. Connally
-President’s options
-Blacks
-Professionals
-Possible perception of the President
-Steed’s views
-Percentage of Blacks opposed to busing
-Roy E. Innis’s views
-Vernon E. Jordan, Jr.’s views
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Robert J. Brown
-President’s options
-Legislation compared to constitutional amendment
-Dual school system
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Steed
-Lent
-Long Island
-Baker-Brock Amendment
-Lent’s sponsorship
-Possible meeting
-Background
-Robert P. Griffin
-Amendment
-Political decision
-Black establishment
-Gerald R. Ford
-H[arold] R[oyce] Gross
-Griffin
President’s forthcoming press conference
-Preparation
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 319-11 (cont.)
-Domestic issues
-Patrick Buchanan
-Welfare
-Budget
-Busing
-Brock, Baker, Lent
-Meeting
-Timing
-Constitutional amendment
-Possible end of the dual school system
Busing
-President’s options
-South
-North
-De jure segregation
-Timing
-Muskie
-Celler’s hearings
-Muskie
-Baker, Brock
-Constitutional amendment
-Lawyers’ meeting
-Delwin M. Clawson’s son
-Merits of meeting
J. Williard (“Bill”) Marriott
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Conversation with Jack N. Anderson
-Reporter’s [George Clifford]conversation with F. Donald Nixon
-John H. Meier from Howard H. Hughes’s organization
-President’s conversation with Don Nixon
Don Nixon
-Business operations
-Aristotle S. Onassis
-Donald A. Nixon’s son
-Dealings with Robert L. Vesco
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 319-11 (cont.)
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Privacy]
[Duration: 14s ]
WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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-Conversation with Clifford
-Anderson’s forthcoming stories
-Timing
-Schedule
-Ehrlichman
-President
-Mitchell
-Conversation with Clifford
-Marriott
-Meier’s role
-Hughes
-Timing
-Democrats
-Anderson
-Hallamore Homes, Inc
-Stock deal
-Air West deal
-[Forename unknown] Hillings
-Ehrlichman
-Marriott’s conversation with Anderson
-President’s instructions to Marriott
-Hallamore
-Anderson’s forthcoming stories
-Anderson’s forthcoming stories
-Timing
-1960 election
-Possible effect
Donald A. Nixon
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Marriott
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 319-11 (cont.)
-Possible handling
-Possible job
-Don Nixon
-Job with Vesco
-Ehrlichman’s possible conversation with Mitchell
-Mitchell’s possible conversation with New Jersey state Senator Harry L.
Sears
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] reports
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 1s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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Don Nixon
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Association with Meier
-Meier
-Conversation with Clifford, [Lloyd G. and Barry Hallamore]
-Lunch
Anderson’s forthcoming articles
Ehrlichman’s schedule
-Don and Edward C. Nixon
-Rose Mary Woods
Don Nixon
-Call from Marriott
-Anderson’s forthcoming articles
-Reaction
-Threat
-Veracity
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 319-11 (cont.)
-Forthcoming meeting with Ehrlichman
-Contact with the President
-Handling
-Mitchell’s role
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s role
-Henry A. Kissinger dispute with William P. Rogers
-Forthcoming People’s Republic of China [PRC] trip
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 27s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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Watergate
-Use of campaign funds for Donald A. Nixon
-Haldeman
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
-Don Nixon
-Lyndon B. Johnson and Sam Houston Johnson
-Franklin D. Roosevelt and children
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 40s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 319-11 (cont.)
Don Nixon
-Anderson’s forthcoming stories
-Possible reaction
-Robert F. Kennedy’s son [David Kennedy]
-Paul N. (“Pete”) McCloskey, Jr.’s father
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Privacy]
[Duration: 10s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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-Handling
-Contacts with White House
-Conversations concerning Meier
-Rebozo
-Richard Danner
-Ehrlichman
-President’s schedule
-Haldeman
-Mitchell
Ehrlichman left at 4:40 pm.