{"conversationCode":"319-012","tapeNumber":319,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-319-012","startDateTime":"1972-02-07T21:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-02-07T21:43:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Feb-1972","startTime":"4:40 PM","endDate":"7-Feb-1972","endTime":"4:43 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On February 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:40 pm to 4:43 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 319-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 319-12\n\nDate: February 7, 1972\nTime: 4:40 pm - 4:43 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.\n\n     Foreign assistance bill\n          -Statement\n                -Status\n\n     President’s schedule\n           -Cabinet meeting\n                -Seating arrangements\n                      -Maurice H. Stans\n                      -William E. Timmons\n                            -Congressional leaders\n                -Congressional leaders\n                -White House staff\n                      -Peter G. Peterson\n                      -Timmons, Richard K. Cook, Thomas C. Korologos\n                      -Henry A. Kissinger\n                      -Harry S. Dent\n                -William E. Brock, III, William A. Steiger, Jack F. Kemp\n                      -Harley O. Staggers\n\nButterfield left at 4:43 pm.","filename":["319-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:10:28","tapeEnd":"01:13:17","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"319-011","nextCode":"319-013","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":24.96,"text":"No split on it, is there?"},{"start":35.84,"end":42.43,"text":"Do you want Stans to sit on your right tomorrow?"},{"start":42.45,"end":50.64,"text":"Do you have any special honor other than the chair, or just mention the chair?"},{"start":50.8,"end":54.08,"text":"Normally, you know, the leaders are either side of you."},{"start":54.1,"end":56.9,"text":"We'll mix them up in other than the leaders."},{"start":56.92,"end":58.63,"text":"I don't think Stans needs to."},{"start":58.65,"end":59.23,"text":"I think we've done something."},{"start":59.25,"end":60.05,"text":"We'll get a dinner for him and the rest."},{"start":60.07,"end":61.25,"text":"You would like to place the leaders on either side of you?"},{"start":61.31,"end":61.83,"text":"They should be here."},{"start":62.2,"end":65.49,"text":"It's the way it always is."},{"start":65.51,"end":72.91,"text":"His fans should be over there, and he'll get enough out of the recognition while he's there."},{"start":72.93,"end":74.4,"text":"And, you know, don't worry about those people."},{"start":74.42,"end":74.78,"text":"He had his day."},{"start":74.8,"end":75.82,"text":"They got their day."},{"start":76.1,"end":83.49,"text":"Now, this is simply the leaders and the captain, right?"},{"start":86.61,"end":95.28,"text":"We're not going to have a whole White House staff meeting, right?"},{"start":95.3,"end":96.02,"text":"I can't get the ass off the leaders."},{"start":96.04,"end":96.74,"text":"We have too many White House staff."},{"start":96.76,"end":97.2,"text":"We're all at the helm."},{"start":97.22,"end":98.3,"text":"We don't know what that's going to apply to."},{"start":98.32,"end":98.64,"text":"I didn't get it."},{"start":98.66,"end":99.46,"text":"The inclusion, of course, is a courtesy."},{"start":99.48,"end":99.78,"text":"He hasn't been."},{"start":99.8,"end":100.1,"text":"He hasn't been."},{"start":100.12,"end":100.55,"text":"Dan's cooking for us."},{"start":100.56,"end":101.59,"text":"I wouldn't bother with this."},{"start":101.61,"end":101.89,"text":"Go ahead, now."},{"start":101.91,"end":105.47,"text":"Go ahead."},{"start":105.97,"end":116.11,"text":"That's the best kind of people I've met."},{"start":116.13,"end":118.25,"text":"I've met them."},{"start":118.27,"end":129.69,"text":"They do pictures on that, you know, on bare hands."},{"start":129.71,"end":131.29,"text":"They say, oh, I don't have all these guys, and all these guys are there coming."},{"start":131.31,"end":132.07,"text":"Oh, well, Steiger and Jackson."},{"start":132.09,"end":132.27,"text":"Steiger?"},{"start":132.29,"end":132.47,"text":"Steiger."},{"start":132.49,"end":132.73,"text":"Oh, Steiger."},{"start":132.75,"end":134.31,"text":"Steiger, not Steiger."},{"start":134.33,"end":134.49,"text":"Steiger."},{"start":135.18,"end":137.99,"text":"Yeah, good."},{"start":138.01,"end":138.07,"text":"OK."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield coordinate the seating arrangements and attendee list for an upcoming Cabinet meeting involving congressional leaders and White House staff. The President emphasizes prioritizing key leadership positions while expressing a desire to limit the overall number of staff attendees to maintain focus. The discussion also touches upon the status of a foreign assistance bill statement.","topics":["Cabinet meeting","White House administration","Congressional relations","Foreign assistance bill","Event logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T14:50:40.022Z"},"topicSlugs":["cabinet-meeting","white-house-administration","congressional-relations","foreign-assistance-bill","event-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":138,"audioFiles":[{"file":"319-012.mp3","bytes":5528346,"durationSec":138.06,"bitrate":320343,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:41.568Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/319-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/319-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/319/conversation-319-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}