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Sorry to keep you waiting, man.

Thank you so much.

Here, John, you sit over there.

John, you get that nice little chair right here.

Thank you.

You might, or wait a few times.

Sure.

You do come in here.

Push in the bottom button over here.

No, no.

Any other type of door?

No.

All right.

Very impressive library.

Cartoons.

I love that.

We ought to know you.

Boy, man.

Of course, those are all .

When I visited the Truman Library, I thought that was the biggest library.

Of course, that was before .

I never saw kids.

I don't know who they are.

Well, it's not a very happy tale you want us to do.

It's not a very happy tale.

I mean, I'm speaking as a U.S. citizen and not as the world's prime minister, so it's really quite inappropriate for me to talk about it.

That's the way I'm going to talk about it.

But the whole subcontinent is going to turn around.

I visited Pakistan, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and there's not one of those countries that isn't facing the same thing.

great political problems, potential political instability.

And I mentioned to you, it goes to a nation's point of view, this is the most vivid impression I've ever had.

You know that.

The starting of Iran, in fact, to be the first place I went to, the government, you know, said it by members of the fire department, she ran on an extremely radical platform.

Among other things, one of her main plans was to get rid of any relationship with the monetary fund in the World Bank.

as a capitalist organization.

She came in and found the situation much worse than she anticipated.

She couldn't produce fast enough.

She over-promised.

And they do create an insurgency with Johnny Depp, along with the wife of the FBI minister, who swears by the Russians.

On the other side, both the Russians and the Chinese charge this man for the CIA.

Oh, but it certainly wasn't.

We know it wasn't us.

You can be sure of two things.

One, it wasn't the CIA.

Second, it wasn't financial aid.

You can't have that scale of uncertainty without external financial aid.

It had to be the government.

And or the Chinese government.

Today, this is radical government.

She has literally had Congress ministers in her cap.

But this radical government

uh, was under such heavy attack, military attack, and the surgeon said, at one time, she said, she told me, she controlled no part of Salon other than Campus City for 48 hours.

Now, eventually, she overcame, and she has 14,000 of her youth in detention camps today, and she's there now, whether or not, until she, what she calls, re-educates the framework.

The insurgency is still active in the field.

It's not at a high level, but I'm not too worried.

Are you?

Well, she said 15.

She had said 15.5.

But that one and a quarter thousand men people is a little bit too much.

We have so small a country, but that's a tremendous percentage.

All I'm trying to say is that the lines are potentially very unstable in the area of the woods, and it's just right for someone to knock off the lines.

So Paul, the king died too late after I saw him.

There's bound to be a little one to throw you there.

And Paul, because of the geographical barriers he had in China, he's heavily dependent on India.

And it would be very easy for him to fall under the control of India.

For example, if it's landlocked and it exports and it falls over by the rails, you're going to get a report that's going to cut it.

And you periodically turn the screw on that.

And one wants to really put pressure on the policy to stop those exports.

And this is very serious.

In our case,

U.S. aid to Nepal, roughly 8 to 10 million a year, in terms of rupees, the rupees were released by India.

Sufferance, India has indicated she won't suffer that any longer.

We're going to have to find some other people to aid.

Is it by law?

It's by, yes, by law.

The U.S. is by law in Nepal.

I've talked to the board about this.

The Translator Paul told me that there's a Q&A to open here.

And they understood the cost of them.

They were quite prepared.

They had all the work on relationships with them.

Otherwise, you see ways that you can make an attorney depending on the challenges that the attorney can't get at all easily in servicing.

But there's a potential vacuum there.

Pakistan, you know, for real, probably better than I know.

He's a graduate of Berkeley.

I don't know.

He was certified.

And he was a foreign minister.

You gave him jobs.

I think he has the highest IQ of any political leader in the developing countries that I know of.

Well, the higher IQ, but not as wise.

But his mind moves quickly.

in a certain direction.

Well, he's absolutely unreliable, unscrupulous, extraordinarily ambitious, and will stop at nothing to avenge his own enemies.

I think today, in my own credit for this, that his interests and our interests lie in the same direction, parallel paths.

And in any event, I suspect he is by far the best man to hit Pakistan today, because he's followed me to Garland, of course.

the best you could go forward, how they were treated.

That's the only way to hold that country together.

They faced labor unrest, widespread labor unrest.

Student unrest, regionally, splits, pollution sign, and they showed our point of view.

Yeah, and Northwest Frontier Province did not vote for him in the election a year or so ago.

Their antagonist is Georgia now.

And there's sort of a reading of this, but in any case, an archaic at one point, I don't know if you've heard of him,

greater than the fact that we, as a political case, as a few times as there is, that I face this defeated people.

I've been fighting people for a thousand years about security, and now they've been defeated, clearly and publicly defeated, and I think I feel they have exactly what they want, because there are two problems that have to be resolved.

One is that the border's been injured, where the union has penetrated attacks.

And that has to be resolved by concession, by tax.

And the other is the return of the person, $100 tax.

They're 100 pounds well, is what they say.

I don't know what it is.

That's right.

It's a lot in many cases.

And those have to be repatriated at some time under some certain circumstances.

And the Army undoubtedly, they've got demand and they're going to make concessions.

And the process is going to be so .

I would think that they're without getting into their problem.

Well, you know, they were up against impossible bad odds, and they fought very bravely.

You know, after all, there was no damn chance of back down.

Well, there never was.

There was a chance the other time.

Remember, they did well in the first two or three days of the other war.

And then finally, you can't run 60 million against 600 million.

And particularly on the other side,

So we can provide $800 million to India over what's coming next.

About $760,000 to $765,000, most of that for us in the last six years.

And we, of course, are directly connected to India.

We've provided $630,000 to India.

$630,000 a year.

The last year it was $750,000.

You could add everything up.

International organizations, bilateral aid, and so forth.

It was $750,000 a year, or a year.

So, well, any of that, that is the problem.

The question is, what should he do as a leader, and how can the US support him?

First of all, it's his own.

And also, what does he expect in the way of aid, and what does he expect in the way of military?

Obviously, I haven't talked to him.

He didn't ask me, and I didn't write to him.

I thought it was quite appropriate.

But what's his own prognosis?

He don't deal with variance.

He's smart enough to know his weaknesses.

And he knows the weaknesses, both on the labor, the students, the regionals, and the art.

He's penetrated the internet in all these senses.

The forces of work that everybody's seeing, where we're thrown in the blue, they can do it by making him unpopular.

And that would result in part in his decision not to interfere.

He's smarter than anybody in America.

He's smarter than anybody else in the country at the moment.

He's been eyeing the cannons perfectly because he gave out the board of chiefs.

That became zero.

He did anyway, but the crowd

He's been doing that.

Just

He just tailored his reaction to what his own interests were, and he just asked me to ask you to do a consultation.

When Australian Museum recognized Frank Adesh, he would do a long counter-offer.

He'd make a bunch of balls, and he'd ask Bob to instruct him, and then he'd go on to complain about his degree in the museum.

Go ahead.

That's exactly what it was.

And when Britain would do Frank Adesh's relation,

And I said to him, something about your having a normalized relationship and how hard you can do it, is go away off your ice and release your ice and hang yourself and sort of conclude.

So, he didn't ask me to be in the military.

I don't mean to disgust him.

I wasn't sure of him.

But he did say to me that if the U.S. could give some indication that they favor civilian and opposed to the military, he'd go from here and he'd agree to what he'd done.

In any event, he knows them well.

He has basically the potential to shorten his life, certainly politically, because he hears the movement, and he hears the movement.

So much for Pakistan.

I have the potential to act in there.

India?

I'm going to skip Bangladesh, because India is a reflection of Bangladesh.

Bangladesh?

I can read all the news, but you're handing something out to an app.

But I didn't sense.

that the destruction was probably as great as it apparently was.

And you still have one of the greatest slaughters in the race there to be.

They say 300 killed, 40% of the house was destroyed.

Well, she told him that after he was arrested, the troops went through his home to find his children.

The children are still there on the wall.

The troops burned the house down.

They were going through his father's house.

Father's house.

Father's name.

His father's name.

The troops pulled them out of the house.

Mom and sister-in-law shot the servants, and they decided to kill them.

Burned the house down.

The governor of the bank, he's a very, very good one.

He shot 46 people.

His wife and son were shot in jail trying to quote for fun, quote it.

Then, for the latter days of the... Oh, and by the way, the 4,005 rapes who are now pregnant will go out.

And under Muslim law, the Muslim Muslim will not take back the life of his wife, regardless of the cost.

So he's holding on to him.

But I'm hoping that he'll all pass.

In the latter days of the law, that's a little...

Yes.

And my wife, I'm going to have to tell the portion.

On both sides, it's just terrible.

In any case, in the latter days of the war, we were here.

We were apparently on the after side of Pakistan.

We were trying to leave the children.

And he told me that, unfortunately,

before they killed him.

The doctor should now approach him according to their specialty.

They should not adopt him without doubt in their eyes before they kill him.

He was in a heart surgery.

His chest was ratified.

He took a skin specialist, an instrument, obviously, to be able to kill him.

Now, I mention all of this in the present because one reason is that the depth of emotion and bitterness is much greater than I anticipated.

Rajiv was charming in contrast to his son, Anthony, who was struggling.

And as I said, this county, we had 75% and it's still a terrible, brutal, destructive year that they went through.

And I wish my people would turn to me and say,

Obviously, I don't believe that.

But if I point to it for that reason, it's a question that we accept or not.

That's what they believe.

And the arms that we gave to Pakistan, the current support we gave to Pakistan, they got a long list of all the things we did or didn't do that caused all this.

And the Indians do exactly the same thing.

Because, now when I say this, I'm not speaking about people's statements for public assumption.

It didn't mean that I wanted to cheat, or I wanted to cheat, or I wanted to cheat, or I wanted to cheat, or I wanted to cheat, or I wanted to cheat, or I wanted to cheat, or I wanted to cheat, or I wanted to cheat, or I wanted to cheat, or I wanted to cheat,

In the case of the jeep, because we had a lot of people there, I didn't give them a long argument about what the U.S. did or didn't do.

In the case of the county, I did do that one for a long time.

This particular day, she happened to be one of the first to talk to me.

And I did go into quite a formal discussion about underlying U.S. action plans in the case of China.

And I said, I'd be able to tell more than that.

and she couldn't, unless she began in there, she couldn't understand what this meant because it was the greatest single farm move, farmhouse move that any leader has made in the last two decades.

And a hundred years from now, we look back and see it as a major move, and not just a move, you know, it's an idea.

I don't know why she said she agreed with that.

And, yes, exactly.

So we went through a long part of this.

But she then came back to do us a responsible work.

And therefore, there is a depth of feeling and tension with that in the making with our agency.

In fact, I don't know if she believes it or not.

Well, she goes back .

She's three out of five .

Well, I said, that's the point I'm trying to make, Mr. President.

The depth of dealing is very, very great.

And therefore, there's a potential vacuum there.

What is it?

Just so we know the facts there.

What is the age of that?

65.

Not in age.

No, sir.

As many of their equipment as they paid for it.

I agree.

I know this car.

Actually, we approved a one-time exception, which was worth $40,000, which was never entered.

And in fact, in order to make the Indians swallow this one-time exception, we've used some airplanes to that.

They cut these airplanes to Pakistan and never got anything because the other thing is in the lead.

But all together, Pakistan is $65 to $50 million from Iran.

And I think $130 million from China.

India's got $850 million from the Soviet Union, plus $1.5 billion from their own production.

It's a military talent.

But it does show you the part on that.

It's exactly the same.

That's all I'm going to say.

I think I went a long way.

to continue out there.

How does she feel about the ?

I didn't discuss it with her.

Well, I was meaning to.

I was trying to think, you know.

They seem to be uncomfortable.

The reason I say that is that they are definitely

They can't do it.

There are 200 of them in here.

who are living on less than one movie per day, and it's hard to convert that to what anyone said, but say 15 cents a day, and they're just on the margin of life.

And those 200 million Indians, I don't know what it is tomorrow, a year from tomorrow, five years from tomorrow, they'll blow unless there is development in that country.

And I told her, you know, we've talked about getting along without age.

She's never heard it said, but those 200 million, those people are going to pay the price of getting along without age.

But you've just got to have any hope that this will come through a little more, which is just irrational.

Let us, uh, let us look at it as a kind of an encounter, and I'm going to agree with you on that.

I'm going to agree with you on that.

I've, uh, we've done a very good job of talking about what we are, and then we've talked about the things that we did in the last year.

.

Coming to this one, what is your view of what our position is and what our position should be?

Now, having said that, I think that

President, I want to disassociate the humanitarian aspect of this to a moment.

Before we get that, what are we doing there?

We have this time.

We have released the amount of money that was earmarked, or an amount of money that was earmarked for the U.N. in the United States.

U.N.

In Bangladesh.

And it's, it's, it's, in terms of friendship, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

We would like the government to recommend to you that we should pledge 33% of planning international efforts and set aside 750,000 funds for food stamps.

that we had originally intended for.

In other words, we're not cutting down.

But we have, reducing what we had set aside originally, which then was 70%, in order to trigger a larger inflow from other countries.

And I think that we have, from all over the world, the Belgians, the British, we are confident that this can be done.

So we are cutting down our percentage.

But the use of the same total amount, you know, that we've been doing before this going into government, you know, that basically is a very different place on our native land.

We're, we're, we're, we're, we're actually doing a little bit more on native land than we were when we were a few years ago.

They were, you know, senators of the former president of the U.S.

But before we take the bigger purpose of this environment, we've got to do this together.

is to get the total out of it.

Our total is the same.

Our total is what was earmarked previously.

But our potential is .

We have to at least, I don't know, we're thinking about $150,000 for immediate treatment, regardless of the fact that there's regardless of the technical limitations just to get the immediate situation.

Yeah, I didn't control it.

This is the, uh, I heard this was the mortgage that you were talking about.

That's the mortgage that you were talking about.

Yes, sir.

So, uh, so the detective in the house had this, uh, uh, and I infected the other day.

I called the mortgage agent.

We didn't even date many of the others.

So, he put out a date in the house.

Uh, I'm glad that he, you know, actually found this little white, you know, new fresh from the, uh,

I'm more remiss if you believe that it's simply a question.

You think it's forced on you?

That our funds are so limited, that we have pockets out there to support you in the end of this month of debt rescheduling, which the fiscal report has to be, you know, the fiscal report has got to go to work.

in order to approve the Hedwig-Hedwig regime.

And we have to ensure that we approve the position of the Congress of the United States of America.

Yes, well, the one guy standing in front of us, let's take a second.

I told Rudolf that we hadn't made a phone contact since August of 1970, except for Romeo Cyclone.

The reason is that we thought it was important to do money down the drain.

If it just were in chaos, I wasn't prepared to run into our board and put money down the drain.

It wasn't a political problem.

Today, we don't deal with one, two, or all.

I'd like to, unless I do three things.

A, get the debt rescheduled.

Other than fighting the line, I don't want to fall into the social injustice of the trust.

B, carry out an exchange reform.

An exchange that's way overvalued.

This is George's main approach to misallocation research.

engage in fiscal reform, and it's raising government revenue, taxes, and so on.

If they don't do that, the first thing we can think of is they could go through things we can't help.

We don't get to do those things.

And we can't do them all.

We can't go through the problems we do, and we've talked to great people about it.

They would propose an old meeting at a consortium in the fourth week of February.

We begin to talk through this approach.

And one thing I would say, I understand, and that's the concept of the U.S. sports analysis a little bit longer.

Now, going back to what we would do, that sounded right to you.

I just wanted to ask you a question.

Are you going to be willing to reschedule your debt?

Absolutely not.

I'm aware about that, but gee, that's right.

For reasons you know, this is a very such success that nobody in the world agrees with.

That's why I asked you the question.

Nobody agrees with me.

We just can't raise money.

We've got nothing but a portfolio of receivables from hawkers.

And once that thing begins to go, it's going to go like a house of cards.

But anyhow, putting that aside for a minute, what could we do?

What would I say?

The first thing I'd like to do is cut a part of the humanitarian protocol of political pressure into action.

Because I have some very strong views on the military, but that's for another time.

What if a military, I don't make it by friendship or quarterly relations, nation by nation alone.

Therefore, I'm trying to dash through.

go straight to the U.S. to prepare, and I hope will, put in tremendous sums, and I don't think it's going to be a bad thing in the political, military direction, unless it's accompanied by some other moves.

Now, what other moves?

We're all going to have to close it up to the foreign policy of the country to be prepared to say, accept that.

Second, even when you do recognize, I think it's going to have to be accompanied by some form of personal diplomacy.

a special emissary, somebody that you will have confidence in and believe represents your personal interest.

Well, not necessarily a special emissary.

A special emissary is a special contact.

It's a quiet diplomacy, in fact.

It's not something spread across the big papers, but a quiet discussion.

Because, as I said, the depth of the pedicure, the surgery, just got to the point where so much was under the test.

I wouldn't rely on the quantity of aid to accomplish anything in the way of reducing the stress.

Secondly, essentially the same thing through a medium.

Now, there are quantities of aid that will flow in terms of our generation.

But more important than the point of the day, though, and I'll come to that, but more important than that is some quiet diplomacy.

I said to her, now that you're talking to me, she said to me, what should I do?

I said, well, first thing, you've got to do is lower your voice.

Well, I figured out a lot of this stuff, but she said, well, you've got to lower your voice.

And so I heard, indeed, of Gloria here attending, and she just went up on the skyline.

Tell me what I did.

When did I say anything?

on the basis of any resentment whatsoever.

Well, I have tried to say how long ago I have.

Well, you know, that damn letter, which I don't know how you reacted to, but as a citizen, I reacted to.

I mean, say, I don't know.

I don't know.

Well, I think that we made one mistake.

We made many, I'm sure.

The major mistake I made was to take the advice of, I must say, the United States.

I love her.

I reassured her that she was going to do this.

If you were going to let her have it, I'm already going to have to.

I'm going to be able to contact her if she comes.

I assured her that she was going to do this.

If she didn't, I'm going to have to withdraw.

I'm going to have to report it.

.

The problem, however, is we have a very, very common problem.

Every time you go down the street, I fought for it.

Well, I'm a vice president for eight years, voted for it for four years as a congressman and as a senator, and it's a loser, because every time they take this from the United Nations and all the rest of it.

I say this without any, you know, no-holds-barred view of what's going on, because they've done all this.

Now we're going to pout.

We can't do that to a big country because it's a sub-competition, at least the biggest.

a non-conglomerate country to succeed just as the biggest conglomerate country in the state of Illinois has succeeded.

So that's our policy, and that's the reason for it.

So what do you think about that?

The President's coming around.

He'll deal with it.

If he doesn't, the President never can.

He should do what he's supposed to do.

He's supposed to do what he's supposed to do.

because we have a very serious problem despite what you may hear.

You see, the difficulty we can't hear, which you're quite aware of, is that while India has an enormous amount of support

I don't know what you find, but you and I have talked about this too.

Am I right?

I overstate it.

No, Bob knows this.

He's been two years trying to get his eye to program.

We got it.

We got it because I went up there last week and met with about 30 of the top Republicans and just spent two hours there.

Yeah, and commit to things, promise to dams and a hell of a lot of things you shouldn't have.

Well, I understand.

Let me say that I think the one thing I think that you could be very hopeful on, because you obviously, everybody will promise you that you will continue to do that.

You know, you've got the International Bank, the $400 million that you have in the National Bank.

But if you could get across the point that I don't think

India has not had a more consistent plan.

I voted for the report.

I've never taken them on.

I said, when they kicked us from the United Nations, what we're trying to do is just turn into the old trying to do this and I do this.

500 million Indians trying to make it the free way, but not on this way.

They've got to have our support.

uh, just, uh, you know, and we have, and also if we have very, anybody who's been with us, you know, let's, uh, be before the war.

I mean, there are too many people that have, you know, uh, those 200 people, uh, well, they've been, you know, perhaps, you know, it's not going to be a disaster already for many, many years to come.

But what we really have to find is the way, the way that, uh, it works.

And, uh,

Well, I mean, what I mean is the purpose of the emissary to reassure her.

Well, emissary to thank the deck.

No, they're not necessarily an emissary.

What I want to say, Mr. President, is I don't think that a large aid program in India is...

to be willing to or couldn't be willing to is the way to approach it.

I do think that if they don't, they still don't have a hell of a lot of revenue.

Oh, not greatly enough.

They're moving out very rapidly.

Within a week or two, they'll be gone.

They're going back to, frankly, yes, the president of the House, the old Speaker of the House.

Oh, yes.

And the Indians are pushing, in fact, quite hard.

So they'll be out, and that is the problem.

But India has a terribly serious income.

I don't put that aside, because that whole thing.

That's going to, no matter how much hate you're pouring on them, they're just going to buy the resolution of the problem.

I do think that the first time you have lower voices, and they've got to do that.

She makes the argument, you know, it's going to be much more difficult for her to do it than you.

She's got a little problem on her writing, all this stuff.

But she's just got the lower voice.

Secondly, there needs to be some quiet in the home city.

Henry Pelton, he's part of the city, I'll take John in on this.

good place to begin because John is a very sophisticated man.

The head of the Foreign Office, the head of the Foreign Office, is very close to the Russian.

Absolutely.

And therefore,

When we go through Keedan, in Keedan Reef, there is always this problem that it gets filled with through-calls.

And we need to go through that both on the other hand.

I would be in charge of the dialogue.

All right.

Thank you very much.

just getting him ready for the night that is happening after I've discussed the matter with him.

I called him to report.

I put two reasons.

One, our world report is going to come out tomorrow, and put an infection in South Asia with kids outside of Missouri.

And most of all, what should I say?

to keep everybody quiet and innocent.

That's the two-thirds, two-thirds of that of what Americans are messing with him to explain to our people why he acted as he did.

If he laughed to it, the rest of you would get up and get in a dialogue with him.

That's the thought you should have decided to come in for lunch with him from having lunch with him Thursday and Friday.

And that's a perfect first move.

And he understood that he would move heaven and earth to get to the Indian government.

And we had to give outside of the facility.

Well, that's part of the rule.

Then after beginning the spread of the virus,

Sometimes you want to have .

And then there's an $87 million fiscal 731 commitment, I think.

In any case, $87 million commitment was actually an idea that was suspended.

Then it was quietly reinstated at the appropriate time.

This is a 500-year-old USA.

that was signed and committed.

And it was suspended because of .

That's right.

And that needs to be quietly reinstated as the British .

there, and as the Japanese I'm told are doing there.

I'm not that so sure of the Japanese, but I'm pretty sure I'm told the Japanese are.

And that can be done in a quiet way.

And this will be a sign to India that we need to set plans.

And the money that's important here is to reestablish what they have today.

Oh, I've got history.

Everybody knows about it.

And then after that, in March, we'll probably get debt rescheduled.

U.S. participation in the U.S. participation in discussions will be important.

In May, there will be a consortium meeting, a normal consortium meeting, a U.S. discussion there.

I don't know.

We haven't gotten to the point where we can consider that as an issue.

Well, that isn't so much a commitment as it is a participation in the meeting that's important.

But just a gradual .

These are future moves that can come after .

I would recommend those three.

First move is .

Then I got three moves come after .

It's about the way I'd approach it.

And there's no great amount of money at the moment.

So you can actually say I'm separating humanitarian from the other because it's basically a political problem at this point.

And that would be approaching a political problem.

Well, on the humanitarian, let's come back to that for a moment.

We had, and here, John, I took your line.

You thought it should be...

for the reason that Henry mentioned, not because he didn't want to help more, but because he wanted to do other nations.

He wanted to get a bigger pie.

He said, we'll get the same amount, but it's got to be part of a bigger pie for what others don't.

Correct.

But you see, the first, we're probably aware, during the period before the war, we had committed more, and I told Mrs. Condé this, and she's quite aware of it, we had committed more in the military, in the police, in the United States, not even committed more, but paid out more than all of the rest of the world, combined, everyone in the class, because she was talking about how the radiation and the body odor stresses that we find all the time.

I think it should continue to be quite generous.

On this side, I think it's well ordered to get it out.

Now, on the humanitarian side,

When is that decision announced?

Well, Mr. President, I think given the neurosis of the Chinese, the fact is, it's got to be moved now.

I think we can work it out.

I think we could not make anything announced.

But we have information now that the Chinese will be quite receptive.

You know, it might be useful.

We must talk about it.

It might be very useful.

All right.

Let me, let me count a couple of them.

What I'm thinking of, what I'm thinking of does, how does the emissary thing feel?

Well, I'm thinking the emissary may have proceeded.

We can't get in there.

Yeah.

Oh, I know, I know, I know, I know.

I was thinking, I was thinking, but perhaps it won't work.

I was thinking in terms of the humanitarian side of things.

If we're having to do it, we're going to have to do it right.

And that is long, three weeks.

And most people understand that.

Do you have any promises to a man?

I don't, but I haven't thought about it.

The hardest thing we have, we're having a hell of a time on it.

But I really haven't turned my heart to it, but I'm sure it will.

Do you think somebody could do it?

Yeah, I'd take a Republican side of the hand.

There are people like that around.

Well, I'd take somebody that obviously has the confidence to be out, most importantly out.

I'm told that the council, I hate to speak about it, but I don't know, but I'm told he won't stand to represent you.

That's really one of the reasons that I speak in this area, and I speak as a person that would represent you and would obviously represent you.

Well, that's okay.

Let us hear from you on that.

We're all in agreement on that.

Yeah, as far as the goal is concerned,

One advantage that I may have is trying

If you decide to imagine, if you decide to go, go.

I think that's something I can solve better than a bunch of us.

Because we're better than the worst people with me.

I mean, I'm Indian and so on.

Well, I have a time of my own, too.

Yeah, let's put it together.

What's your view, John?

Well, how do we, how do we, how do we, first, we all agree that, uh,

I have a question.

Thank you.

I don't think we can't do much with it.

And I can't decide we can't do anything with it.

That's right.

on the issue of the adversary.

We might consider, for example, there's more evidence there afterwards.

There's a guy from Brazil looking into the VC.

He knows the area very well.

He's a low-key fellow.

But that is one way of answering it.

And he takes instructions very carefully.

I think we will find with the Chinese that if we discuss this kind of opening, we will

We had to develop parallel policies while we were making the natural structures.

They will suspect collusion between us, the Russians, and the Indians, and will go in the opposite direction.

And we'll have a confrontation.

So I, based on the conversations we've shown at the school doors, I think we will be able to move in this direction to keep track of their recommendations.

I think we'll do it after the assignment is over.

.

I have one question about what you get out of this aid.

You know, we talked about the small amount, $80,000, $50,000.

We put $10 billion in there.

The last 15 years, we've done nothing.

We've put $10 billion in this one.

And outside of the compassion with the aid that we give, because we just suffered a lot from this aid, what do we get from this aid?

Give us a justification.

Well, you said a long time ago you don't buy anything.

We're getting to that one.

This is a peculiar 87 thing.

This was a commitment the government made.

Other governments were in similar situations.

The British and the Japanese.

They handled it differently.

They did it in a special way.

They didn't just proceed with it.

The U.S. Act is so different from the U.S. Act that it's charged with an anti-Indian act.

If you're ever going to restore normal relationships, you've got to deal with that suspension.

Not for humanitarian reasons, but in order to normalize relationships with Indians is the first one.

Secondly, if it were to normalize it, I think it's absolutely essential.

If you're not careful, that whole subcontinent is going to be under the control of Soviets.

And they're outplaning Iran.

They've just got all kinds.

They're outplaning Thailand.

They've got all kinds of problems out there.

And the Soviets really take over control of Pakistan, the US a lot, and Nepal.

And that's something to worry about.

And I think that the Chinese will worry about that.

And the Chinese will worry about that, too.

That's right.

And the Chinese, you said, are frightened.

And you're absolutely right.

I don't know very much about them.

But I get this all over the world.

This little country lies right under China.

And it would be knocked out very easily.

So that's the reason why I wanted to tell him, and show him why.

He gave me exactly the same description.

He said, there's a world of difference, and this might be over both directions.

He said, there's a world of difference between you and me.

You can deal with each other.

You know that we've got to have a practical relationship with each other.

And he doesn't want us under his control over here.

And he said, why don't we just leave it alone?

And he said, we won't quarrel with you.

You know, we deal with the Russians.

They can't take everything.

The state that you make, if you ever take anything from them, they'll take everything from you.

I mention this only to say that the Chinese, I think, will understand what the U.S. is doing and how flawed the U.S. is.

We're eating the so great knowledge that we hold to some kind.

This 87 million substance, John, doesn't have a damn thing to do with AIDS.

It's associated with a political relationship in my mind.

Now, you can test it.

I'm talking to you.

But that's my mind.

The way that it's seen is my .

This is my mind.

They have contempt for the Indians.

They do their direction.

So it is very likely, and I don't know what will go through their minds, but it is very likely that Joe will say, well, let's not have on our southern border a country that we have under control of somebody we fear, rather than somebody for whom we have contempt.

And it may be a foreign interest to keep India from taking that policy.

I think that now it would be more difficult for the U.S. to look at it that way.

I mean, you think if you're not as funny, you can react that way to your political party.

Would that be a connection analysis to that?

Or are the Chinese a damn mad team?

They're a bad team.

They're designing a very cool program.

The lines you have to start with, uh, is... First of all, they claim they've always operated for the principal's credit.

Right.

So the first thing, you can't just tell the girls when they need to do it.

You have to give them an analogy of the real situation in which India faces.

And admit that there is an incircle that's going on.

And then I will say to them, here is the problem here.

If we leave the view completely to the soldiers, then the following comes to mind.

If, on the other hand, we can see your point that we put too much in there, then the objective tendency is to affect India against you anyway.

So is it possible for us to work out a relationship in which we keep the foot in India?

The contract is so good, of course, that at the same time we kill people.

Now, that's a question.

that he'd understand.

If you put it on that page, I think you'll get a very sophisticated answer from him.

And there won't be any infected.

They may make a little speech about themselves, but they are the most sophisticated people that I've dealt with.

Well, let's pay without a question.

Yeah, but let us leave it this way if we can.

.

That's the goal we have to achieve here.

With regard to the others, we have to react.

Thank you.

.

Sure, it was done here.

Now it's scheduled today.

I'd love for you to come here.

Sure.

No problem.

No, no, no.

Maybe I didn't say when I got it, but I didn't tell where I was going.

I'd like to say that I have with you a subject that's prepared to punish anybody.

Because this is a subject that you've just pushed it.

Well, yes, but I don't want this kind of discussion.

I see what you're up to.

I know.

Yeah, it was my fault.

It was my fault.

No, he's a good man.

He's a good man.

He's a good student.

He's basically a very compassionate man.

Well, I'm awful fine.

And that's fine, but he's a smart, he knows all the laws of the people.

And he's a source of information.

I'd like to see him.

Thank you.

And that's what all we've got in the world.

.

I'll try to stay silent, but you have this son, you have a petty path, a reporter.

Yes, a petty, petty path.

But how does a person get more involved?

What happens when these people come in?

Now, I was told by my colleagues, you know, there was a score on that.

And that's a mandatory thing.

And, you know, it's a great thing to have something like that on the treasury.

You all don't see it on this environment.

You don't even know what you're saying.

You don't know what you're talking about.

But I'd like to share that with you.

That is my view.

And I'm going to leave it at that.

I wish you all the best.

And I want that to be in my .

I don't want to go online and say, why don't we navigate to the mall?

But it's a great experience, and it's a great cover.

I would do as much overall as the others, but it's going to be part of the world effort.

We have now limited resources.

Well, I mean, I can't.

I don't care.

I can't.

I don't care.

No, no, I would not, I would not ever mention what I would like for you to do, but you would tell what this man is now, that you would talk to him, and I would like to sit behind him and talk to him, and you would work out of that, and I would work my way over to that.

Yes, sir.

That would be good, that black man.

Yes, sir.

And he has been extremely helpful, and he can be.

I don't think so.

They brought this on themselves.

They're ruining the Chilean economy with their expropriation and everything else.

Now, for us to step in and rescue it means that we are subsidizing, basically, the communization of Chile, the hell with it.

Absolutely.

Russia can't support themselves, Mr. President.

They're coming to us and saying, we're not making the strides.

We want to trade with you.

We want your credit to both our resources.

And that's one of the reasons we are not going to change our attitude towards people who have lost their jobs every day.

Now, the same is with Chile.

They have to show the Russians that they have to support them, and they will have to be supportive of the Russians.

But the way that Chile, they want more support from us, they want them to go our way, that we will tell them, that they will know them, and they will get the message.

Well, he just lost two elections.

I don't know that he's doing so well.

I imagine it's communization.

Right.

I mean, he's in trouble.

Can you just always speak to the power?

He is in trouble.

And that's it.

And we were four miles out of trouble.

We were helpful.

We got together with the terrorist group.

Well, if we do this work that we're going to do again, we're going to do Chile before we did Argentina 25 years ago.

We let Paloma run our white pants up there.

They destroyed Argentina for a quarter of a century.

Argentina has got no chance.

I talked to the president.

He said, I'm going to meet with the finance minister tomorrow.

But they've been meeting all the time looking for a billion dollars, right?

No, we can't.

We don't have it.

But there's some things we can do.

They've been over the state, they've been calling it the World Bank, they've been calling it the IMF.

IMF gave us that.

And what they really want is to see the IMF for the Argentinians.

And we can, we can be of some help to them.

But not even like what they want.

But of course, there again, they're forcing Americans into the South.

So every time we get the chance, we ask them, what about these companies?

Argentina, Swift de la Plata, is an American company.

It's been operating in Argentina for 75 years.

Before the turn of this century, they were the largest producer of foreign exchange for Argentina.

They have been for over half a century.

But they finally described it, described it, described it, and finally ended up taking them over.

It's another fate of method.

It's all about the courts, and it's a long, sad story, but the matter is that they've gone down this road a little bit themselves.

But it's not the New Zealand's fault.

It's just a combination of things, you see, resulting from the rank of the phenomenon.

They were the richest damn country in Latin America.

That's right.

Well, richest in terms of the fact that they had the best people.

It's a European country.

It would be like...

They had a higher per capita income than Italy before World War II.

That's right.

A higher per capita income.

Look at the damn place now.

The wood.

Yeah.

Your wood is another one.

It's home, but it's been ruined for a long time.

They had to import meat.

Your way is to have arms and ships and all the rest of it.

I don't think you're going to clear people by subsidizing policies.

How do they destroy their own people?

They carry themselves out of the government.

So that's where we're going to operate.

We probably ought to be prepared to go up with the bill tomorrow.

We don't have to, but we're more or less planning to go up tomorrow.

The trade thing is still up in the air.

And it's very well settled that we're being promoted.

I think it's very well settled, and I've been told more, in the range of the Henderson Award, that the Communicator got popular over the weekend about the plaintiffs who were filled to the dollar.

And at the time he sends that, in the range of the very ones who are trying to blow up our trade negotiations with the communities, they were raised in hell, and every country

over there and agreed to all this stuff, except France, and they want more, they want more monkey ranchers here.

And so they've got the European community coming up.

Canada, it's nothing, it's back to where, I told them last week, as far as Canada was concerned, just to say, oh, thank you.

We don't want to do anything.

That's how it was.

Let's just stop calling.

You know, we've talked more than all we want to do is aggravate each other.

We're not offering anything that's of any value across the board.

And we frankly think it's beneath us both.

And it's just the best thing that can happen.

Just ignore them.

Ignore them.

And frankly, how will we let them get past their life?

Which is the truth.

And I don't think the sum of the picture really matters.

Well, I don't think we will either, but now they're back, and so after we told them that, we said, well, we're going to put you off negotiations, but now they're back, and they say they've got no competition.

They're not going to do anything, and we just march up the hill and down the hill, and so I think we ought to just find some equipment to negotiate with them, but they're around now, they're talking to the State Department, they're talking to Hillary, they're talking to Peter, they're talking to Congress, and they're talking to everybody.

And Maury Stansman stood with me today.

And he said, well, Chief, you're up on the Clarity Guarantee.

And I said, Maury, you didn't get up on the Clarity Guarantee months ago.

I said, it's the first July that we're talking about.

He said, well, they told us.

He said, they told me last Sunday that it was the first July.

I said, that's right.

And they told us all the time.

And I said, now that I've done that,

He said, oh my God, I didn't know that.

And I said, this is the problem.

They backed up on everything they ever said they were going to do.

And so I said, as far as I'm concerned, we'll go on up with the bill.

That's what I recommend to you.

It is that we go up with the bill.

But frankly, I don't want to go.

I've got to talk to Bill Rodgers on this.

But I don't want to go if we can't be

We send the bill up.

But I don't want to testify until we reach the point where I can just level with the committee.

If we don't have anything with Canada, it's the same.

Frankly, if we don't have anything with Canada, it's the same.

If we don't have anything with Canada, it's the same.

But I am going to

I am going to raise the point.

With Mel there, probably this afternoon or tomorrow, we've got a little agreement with him with respect to defense partnership.

Well, it's an agreement.

They've violated the agreement for years.

McNamara entered into it in 1962.

They're now $543 million in arrears.

There's no point.

Just keep it on and on and on.

They run a hell of a service.

They've treated us good.

Nothing to us in the real life.

Nothing.

They have done nothing wrong to us.

And there's no reason why we ought to show no preference in treatment in terms of, let's provide for them.

Let's treat the cancer like we treat everybody else in the world.

The best we can.

Why don't you take them?

They won't be big problems, none of them is good for them.

Then they're all going to have to get special treatment.

You won't talk to them at least.

I'm going to raise the point.

At least get a talk and let this get back down there.

Because they're like these women who lives.

They want all the prerogatives and purposes and privileges of a woman, but they want the pay and the position of a man.

Let it be like one of these women agents we hired the other day in the Secret Service, and she reported to the work, had been to work in one of the district offices, so one of these agents in charge gave her a screwdriver and said to him, he said, go ahead and take the top of that damn toilet and fix it.

Now, this is what Kennedy is.

She wants to be a big boy.

She doesn't want to be a robin.

She doesn't want to be a hero of blood, heart, or water.

We ought to give her special treatment on the interest of equalization tax, special treatment on the lawful legal agreement, special treatment on burden sharing.

to fence off the defense burden shack.

Well, that's tricky like any other major country.

I think that's fair enough.

But she ought to get it both ways, particularly when she's running an enormous trade surplus for us, and when we're running a deficit.

Because, Mr. President, I could not feel more strongly that our ability

Now, I don't mean that we've got to precipitate any kind of a confrontation next month, but your future is your next administration, your vote is to respond politically and militarily to the needs of the free world and the entirely and solely dependent on our economic capacity to support it.

Now, the day is gone, and it's gone as of right now, but we can do it.

We can do it.

You see, this is what's really hurting us all.

If we were running surpluses, if we were in good shape, and our world was ready, we wouldn't have all this trouble.

We wouldn't.

But you've got to do it.

It's going to become more and more of a problem.

And it's going to, frankly, erode your strength more and more.

And your decisions are going to be limited more and more because of our basic economic weakness.

And unless we

Take every opportunity we have to shore up that economic structure.

Right.

It's just going to be liquid.

That's all we're starting.

It's something that's 10 years from now.

It's something that's on the slide today.

It's another thing.

We're regarded as a branch.

I wonder if Ernst is working on that.

You know what I mean?

Hello?

It's not a non-black approach.

It's a non-black approach.

If you remember, we had that out.

And we did not, we, if you remember now, we, on the convertibility thing, we decided we were not going to have that.

And the rest of the president's office was one.

That's right.

On the second thing, with regard to maintaining the government, they had a left-hand language problem.

But, remember, you, you, you, you closed that over.

When we closed it over, we said the only way, the most effective way we could defend the dollar

is to have a strong economy at home, and that you had put in the wage and price control, and that we were going to make them work, we were going to do everything with respect to the domestic economy, and this was the most effective way we could defend the strength of the dollar.

And that's all we could do.

One other thing, we categorically said we're not going to convert the dollar.

And we haven't, we don't intend to, we don't want to, and we're preparing a response point to him that's going to be obviously a very, it's going to be a very nice, it's going to be a very conciliatory response, but also it could be a very formal, very liberal one, that we make a commitment to the French, the French are going to do what we're going to do.

It's all part of this, you know, the French are,

are obsessed with the currency problem because they've always had a health problem themselves.

But that's just fine.

And the point you made this morning is that the Woodrow authors are competing next year.

And that's about as proud of them as my ancestors were.

That's fine.

We're not going to allow them to take electric.

But we don't have to do what they say.

We don't have to take the Woodrow.

I have no problem going up to the bill.

The only thing I don't want is to do it.

And if, indeed, we don't have satisfactory trade arrangements, then I think we ought to say so.

Let's level with the Congress, because I know what's happening.

And at least at this point, the worst thing we can do is throw the question, your credit does, as far as America is concerned.

I think what you should do is to go up and say,

that we had hoped to get more on the trade.

We have made some progress on it.

And we are going to continue to work on that.

And where we can't, we'll find one.

And we'll find one.

We've got a pretty good, the package looks good with each other.

And they like the idea that we have made some progress with Canada or with... Do they put you up?

Oh, sure.

And they know exactly what's going on.

They're all going to be with each other all the time.

but they like it, because this puts, for example, this puts Japan in a position of more and more coming out, of being more liberalized into their trade.

So worldwide, they're going to really talk about it.

The way I think of it, and what I'd like to see you do is this, I get what I mean, I'm speaking out of the office, but I think that you are going to brag a little bit.

But we've got to remember, John, that I saw a scenario about the fact that the Europeans didn't much of the minerals.

There were no parts of them.

Sure, they're all going to get some.

But look, the point is,

Before we would have gotten nothing.

Now we're getting something.

And we've started to move.

We've changed the dialogue.

And it's going to remain the same.

And I think that if you could go up and say, now, here are the things we've got.

We're disappointed, frankly, in the Canadian thing.

We're disappointed in the European thing.

We've made progress in both areas.

We're entering a new era.

And we're going to continue to press in this field.

Now that's what I think it ought to be, because that's not a right thing to do.

That's the word I thought I'd say.

Well, that's what I want you to do.

If it indeed requires the opinion of your opinion, the opinion of the administration, because if we don't really mean it, then I don't think we ought to say it.

It's exactly what I'd like to see.

That's what you should do.

Now, if we really have to do it, we're kidding ourselves that I think it's a mistake, kidding ourselves.

Well, I mean, we don't really mean it if we don't intend to press these companies.

I'll refer to that realization.

uh now if it's a if it's a diplomatic way of saying or if it's a state department way of saying well you know we have got the damn thing and we advise about it i think we've got to continue to be the uh the advocate

of a very strong advocate of additional fair treatment for American commodities worldwide.

That's what you have to do.

And I think you've got to say, we are pleased with the progress we have made.

We are disappointed in other areas.

We are going to continue to see progress in other areas.

And that's the line that goes above and beyond.

Nobody will do that.

I have no problem with it.

No, I don't think you haven't heard it, or perhaps it's a mistake.

wants us to say with respect to Canada.

They want to be easy on Canada.

They say, well, we all say to the Congress, well, we're continuing negotiations and we have hope to work it out.

Well, my answer is a little different approach.

My answer would be that I'm very disappointed we haven't worked out anything with Canada.

We've tried.

We've obviously keep talking to them.

But I'm sorry to report to you that we've made no progress at this point.

Now, that's all just a question.

It's a question of semantics, a little question of purpose.

I will be completely honest and say I'm disappointed.

I think we should have gotten something.

We haven't.

The state wants to take the attitude, as I get one.

Bill has talked to me.

Bill will take a position and would say, well,

Oh, we're still negotiating.

We still hope to work something out.

Well, he wants to put a little bit of cash to it.

I don't want to do that.

But I don't believe that.

Well, it's not true.

No, it isn't true.

They receded from where they were all this fall and last summer.

Sir, I'm sorry.

I don't know if you're agreeing or not.

I'm just wondering.

We don't want to do final yet.

Yeah, I should read it.

You mean our policy report?

Yeah.

1130.

I'm sure.

It'll be done.

Good.

It's just the highlights of the report.

Thank you.

But then I think we'll probably get, if I look at all this garbage, you see, I don't want you to do anything.

I don't want you to spend time praying.

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But I got a ring, and I thought we'd make a couple of awards, and then I was pretty good on it.

And I took it, and I took it off, and I took it off, and I took it off, and I took it off, and I took it off, and I took it off, and I took it off, and I took it off, and I took it off, and I took it off, and I took it off, and I took it off, and I took it off, and I took it off, and I took it off,

It really, he looks like an owl.

He's a great big fat owl.

He's probably only 245 feet, and he's wearing a suit, and he's in a billboard, and he's never done anything like that anyway.

He's half-blown out.

Half-blown out.

Half!

I don't know, P-L-N, acronym.

I mean, nobody, I don't know, everybody just calls him Bob.

But he's got his, this guy that did the, put the show, you know, this is his captain.

And, uh, see why?

And I think he has another thing that's certain.

I think I told you, you've never caught one of these guys.

No.

Would you like to support me?

Well, anyway, right in front of this place,

out there is what they call bone fish, flat bone fish, are in what you call flat shallow water, shallow water, and they were snapped up there, you know, like bone fish.

They, you know, I don't know about this, you know,

And they say that if you don't fish, you won't fish eight times in the morning.

But if you have a marlin, I'm sure you can manage a bunch of those little kids around there that can do that.

Whether it's a marlin, it depends on how big or how big you are at the time.

On the other hand, if I've got this ocean out there full of bluebirds and red snappers and that,

I'll stay there.

I'll fish.

What do we say there?

What kind of code?

I've got some tennis shoes.

I'm taking tennis shoes because you might be in a boat.

And sport shirts, sport shirts.

When you're over there, you won't wear sport shirts, slacks, and a bathing suit.

Take a bathing suit.

Uh, because we'll sit around, uh, we, uh, it's, it's, the weather is good, so we can go in two magnetic stations.

And, uh, four-foot slacks on it, you gotta, uh, you gotta turn, I gotta turn in it, I gotta all kind of, yeah, I gotta all kind of, and, uh, uh, you won't, you will, uh, you'll turn, we will punish you, uh, each other.

The only other thing you can do is have a lot of fish on a food table.

Well, you know, I don't say that, but I would love if somebody could probably consider what we do in the evening there.

I want to go there.

I want to go there because that Friday night there, and if the weather is good tonight, I'm going to come back home and eat this thing.

I want to go there.

And also, I want you to see.

I want you to see how I can do it again.

because i don't want to press i don't want to press you on this you know it's the kind of thing

I haven't got a chance to go down there, at least because we've got a second.

But I'm really convinced that when you see an elephant who will walk to go there for a week, or two weeks, you know, for a period of very long, you see, you go, we leave for China on Thursday, and there's no damn reason to go down there.

And, uh, you know, we haven't received, we've never, we've got five hours in a row.

And the only other person who's got two percent is the proposal that we have.

And we just, we've never been able to... Half those, half those are, I can see it, half those are part of the foundation.

Because one of the things, you know, many of us are fishermen, and I'm not that much of a fisherman.

I love the good.

I'm an expert in it.

Other than this, I don't know.

Oh, it's my initiative.

We love to play golf.

I do.

How close would it be where some of my friends would come and play at the hotel and play ball with us?

And then the other golf courses in the Miami area are 20 to 30 minutes away.

And then of course all the country clubs in the Miami Beach area are there.

You know, Indian Creek and some of those who probably played

Well, the other thing you ought to do, another thing you ought to do, Joe, is that, which will allow you to take, there's another house we have there, a big house with a bank on it, where you can get available for staff, where you can get

And so if you would like to have, say, a panel or a group of people, if you want to come with your people, if you need somebody or your secretary or whatever, what I do is take the men that I have there.

They have White House phones.

You've got everything you want, and of course you've got the cars, and it's an L.A., the shopping center is only five minutes away from the car.

Miami, the Miami property is 20 minutes to downtown Miami, 25 minutes to Miami Beach.

So you're right in the center of everything, but away from everything.

So the only problem we'll have is a problem with the choice that we've got at this point.

We're halfway completed.

On the 18th and 19th, they had the traditional Washington birthday celebration.

This is an annual affair at the rate of Texas.

Now, this is a big deal.

Oh, I've been over there.

That's pretty cool.

Across Mexico.

That's right.

I had to tell you that I've got every Mexican leader up in their area of the country, and they have a Mr. South Texas affair.

Then what four of those four companies are going to do is be there.

on the 19th and go to uh which is a country club on the ocean below our program okay which i made another track along and it's got two way out in the old golf course which is going to stay there about four days now i went back to houston on the 25th 26th yeah

I speak to the Mortgage Bankers, which is having a national convention in Houston on July 5th, and on the 26th, I speak to the Santa Cruz Association, which is during the Houston Fast Stock Show, and it's an incredible performance, you know.

And I will go, because there are over 4,000 Houston people who are involved in this stock show.

It's a tremendous operation to do something like that.

All in all, that's the kind of thing I like to go through.

They got me, they're talking about the literary, you know, putting the brain and the rest.

I wish you would watch Texas for something that is Texas.

I went down to the Legion and asked them, you know,

Well, actually, it's a national convention to see Hillary not there seeing the polls.

Now, we're coming to your place, to your party.

That's great.

But I think I ought to go to Houston sometime.

I haven't been to Houston since the election.

Now, it's a huge look for some of us, like, again, the period, say, of March.

Because your party is not for May.

It's not for the first of May.

Look, I'm dead.

Believe me.

This is just a terrible concept.

What I would do would be to take plenty of time to just dig that a couple of days.

And then put them around because this is just a hell of a place.

We appreciate it very, very much.

But what I try to do, and what I'm going to continue to try to do, is verify to keep my eye in.

I don't have to go to them.

They're old people.

They just are whoever I'm calling.

Oh, that's great.

You know, the other thing, let me tell you another thing.

When you talk about it, because one of the cases you're looking at, it doesn't have to be the same thing.

I mean, I didn't have a place to spend my time.

I've been to, uh, I've been to a lot of colleges, but, uh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Well, do you know Ray Brown and some of those places?

Now, it's always my theory, too, that in California, it's a very interesting situation.

It's quite comparable.

In California, you can't paint.

It's almost traditional that we go to the gold rush.

Nobody lives there anymore.

But the coverage out there is a lot.

Because we went to California as it used to be.

But I mean, I don't want to talk about it anymore.

We decided that the very next time you come, have a little Christian coverage.

Got it?

This is, they've got Harden Center, Harden Center, that's the one, that's a great football team, and that's what they're going to turn.

That's the one, Harden Center, and Bobby Morrow and all that crowd, and Eileen Christian, they had a great track team.

But they're getting ready, and guys who compared to Eileen Christian is a very strong conservative.

They're very strong.

They'll be for you.

And that's the center of the Christian church.

Sure.

Have any Christians come here?

Yeah.

They get ready to honor the man, Houston Hart, whose faith, his faith in hell, they're going to dedicate.

St. Angelo College was created by a four-year institution while I was governor.

They're going to have a big ceremony in March and honor Houston Hart, who owns and found

I think he's one of the A Board of the Associated Press.

I have Houston Hartsey.

I have E.O.

Cross, Chris, Don Sandoz, the ex-president of San Angelo, and so on.

This would be a great occasion.

I have to come down and talk about him.

That's what I would like to do.

Go there and honor, rather than coming down to talk about so-and-so.

I don't want to do anything before the convention.

I don't want to do anything for myself.

I want to go, well, I'll go to China, Russia, and then I'll go to China.

But what I want to do is to use the opportunity to go in and speak to five other people, or four other organizations.

You know what I mean?

You just have no question about it.

And that's what happened as president, and not as a goddamn candidate, of course.

But if they thought you'd come and be there on this occasion when they were out in Penn and Bay, and it's March, it's such a long time.

It's a wonderful game.

It's a park.

It's not in one of the big cities.

It's in Central West Texas.

Central West Texas.

But it's a strong, religiously-oriented community.

It fits your philosophy and your idea for the whole thing.

But that kind of a thing, which is what I try to do.

I try to do what I can.

I just got back from the headlines.

Well, they gave the award to John Chancellor.

I was the headliner of the year.

They also had John Chancellor.

He was the board.

Still she there always.

Quite a lot of days.

Still isn't until she's here.

And then they had this other person in the world.

They had a luncheon and they had a dinner.

When you go, you go in the most favorable of all the seats you're in.

And this is what I was confused about.

I said, well, I won't tell you.

You were very, very clean.

Because the wire that you said that was very warm and safe, I'm personally grateful to the world for that.

The world had a tremendous round of applause, didn't it?

It really did.

And all the top political leaders in Texas, because this time, they turned them away at the luncheon.

They had 12 hundred men.

Out of disabuse.

Out of disembowelment.

Over the city capitol.

And they had 1,200 people, and they actually turned away requests for tickets.

That night they turned away the request for tickets.

And so it was really a marvelous affair.

I'm very grateful that you could go and tell them what you sent, because it was not just there when we were waiting on it, but it got a very, very huge applause when we were waiting on it.

Well, I've got to keep my water from the earth.

Oh, that's terrific.

There's a lot of things to do.

We don't keep enough.

I wish I could get to California tomorrow.

It's just too damn far along there.

It worries me out.

But basically, you know, getting out there and keeping close to the road is also what I'm going to do.

different than they're here.

So I just try to go back and I pick any of them.

But I'm going back to Dallas and Fort Worth.

They want to have a big, fair, sometime in the middle.

They're all lawyers.

They're on the entire justice system at our Texas Supreme Court.

Well, they won't meet that debate.

They're going to come.

Well, they're lawyers.

And then if I pick this cattle, you know, I pick this and this, because this is a good one.

These are all your plants.

These are the red cattle.

And I'm going to go and speak to them.

Oh, this is Houston.

The Washington birthday celebration is in the red.

But then I'm going to Houston to speak to the Science of Truth Association.

Well, this is all a small little thing, which you might mention.

You know, where I grew up, where my old man used to live.

It's not where I was born.

This is where we lived.

because it had occasion trees, you know, and it was a beautiful thing, and it's now for all students.

That was my death.

Here was my purpose, I can remember, because when I was in law school, I used to write to my mother and father.

My address, during all the years that I was in law school, and college, and high school, and fifth grade and all that,

was Box 75A, Rural Route 1, Sanctuary Road.

about 75 away, rural Rockwood, Santa Cruz Road, East William, California.

But I think it's a small town, but it's a great, it's a great town.

A lot of Mexicans there, of course, like my kids.

This is the left row, the biggest left row in the world.

And I'm trying to get to them.

But I think Santa Cruz Road is my address.

Well, that's when they fall away here.

Well, they left really unhappy, too, because the principal, well, this was the captain, got his name from a priest.

this creek that runs by the old king line headquarters i don't know but as far as i don't know anything else uh

I wrote you, I think I heard John, and I want to be sure that the memorandum that I wrote you was just regarding that.

Oh, I just saw it.

I just saw it.

That's why I had John say what he did.

I want to be sure.

I want to be sure both John thought he was on the right track and that he's aware that he has a step

You know, you said, I said, the crisis be against the boundary tax, but don't be for another tax.

Well, you've delighted with this one.

It was about right.

That's it.

And I said, well, how would that, the crisis, let's just say we're struggling with everything else, but we're not going to raise tax on it.

Now, that's the line I'm talking about.

If we ever get caught raising taxes, we're dead.

We're in real trouble.

And so we're not going to raise the tax.

So I didn't necessarily, I didn't know the strategy down there.

We were, we were in debt, you know, all the time.

And then now, we can just talk about it.

You do know that it must be sitting, or it's not the car, but he hasn't been out for long.

Don't just say, we're studying.

We'll continue to study it.

We'll study the goddamn thing.

We'll go through a reaction.

We'll remember some of the problems we've had in the past.

Well, I didn't mean to be critical of the staff at all, I understand.

And I think I heard John Stevens say, no, but I did not mean to, and I certainly didn't mean I'm critical, but I think I'm very critical of that.

Now, don't worry about that.

We've got it, Paulie.

We've got it.

I saw that man burn in New York Times about 10 to 10 minutes before you.

I said I would have it done in 60 seconds.

Killed this story, that's what I said.

I knew what they were up to.

Because they're trying to put us in a box.

George Hughes and I got in.

We're all getting in and out of court.

We've got to have an economic committee before us.

What taxes are they going to have to try to force us?

And in fact, what's coming?

What's being delivered?

Are they going to propose a tax bill?

Sure they are.

So is the region.

The so-called cold and loophole.

So what I'm trying to do in Turkey is get a paper on the so-called loophole.

Of course.

You know, what do you want sold?

A goddamn thing.

Sure, just like a thing.

You know, the tax bill, the worst bill I signed,

I just didn't realize until now that it's a bad deal.

We should have, believe me, keep our options open.

The only future of tax is very difficult.

And I would say, well, that's been suggested, but we're looking it over because we don't want to release taxes and we don't want to be redressed.

We want to do policies now.

Well, the, uh...

I really feel, oh I'm ready to, or if I say I'll probably sit around and I'm on the laces of your toes when I get down.

Because I'm not fit enough to fish.

But if you get out there and roll your boat, a national officer is probably one of the best support stations in the world.

They should be able to pull the car.

Look at out there.

I'm not that good, but I don't know what I have to say.

This guy left.

One of my friends left.

This guy left.

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