Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 321-008
Date: Wednesday, February 9, 1972 at 1:05 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/321-008

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[0:00] Where you can talk.
[0:25] Yeah.
[0:25] Uh, you're going to see Don today, are you?
[0:26] Uh, there's not any further, uh, information or guidance or anything, huh?
[0:27] Okay, well.
[0:28] I'll be leading the, yeah, the helicopter.
[0:28] Yeah.
[0:30] But I'll be leaving about four, so that'll be good.
[0:57] But that, of course, is only a...
[0:58] I think there can be absolutely no compromise on his seeing me at any time.
[1:00] Would you agree or not?
[1:24] How can you present that to him, John?
[1:25] If you talk to him, make sure you have his details.
[1:26] Good.
[1:26] I had forgotten.
[1:27] Every time he's involved in anything, that's good.
[1:28] Yeah.
[1:30] Like, uh, no, wait, no.
[1:54] When you say involve himself in whatever, be more specific in what you would tell him about you.
[1:56] He'll try to explain each thing, but you can...
[1:57] Right.
[1:57] So, because he otherwise will be greatly intimidated by anything he does in the business world.
[2:00] Of course, on the other side, you don't want to give them a free hand to go out and make an ass of themselves with more deals.
[2:22] So you could say because of the passageway, you could say that.
[2:23] Is that what you mean?
[2:24] In the case that he's got approval for this kind of thing, for example, if you know the slightest idea, he's just given them a fee, and he's paid by the homeowner, or his friend-in-law, or something like that, and told you the same thing, didn't he?
[2:31] Good.
[2:57] Of course, some place.
[2:57] Madrid is a little safer.
[2:58] Paris is a Madrid university there.
[2:59] And we've done a lot of, you know, the Istanbul election.
[3:00] I guess that's an idea of genius.
[3:01] So I just said, I love you.
[3:26] We're going to have some more education.
[3:26] I think we're recording.
[3:27] We're recording.
[3:27] Take it to Spanish.
[3:28] Take it to Spanish.
[3:28] We're going to start in Spanish.
[3:29] We're going to start in Spanish.
[3:29] We're going to start in Spanish.
[3:30] I think your point is that maybe that's not the difference.
[3:58] It's probably true.
[3:58] It's just, you know, maybe.
[3:58] So, I guess, I'm courageous to your mind, but it would be best if you just got to take it like that
[4:01] He watched every step of the way now.
[4:24] His moving in here is one of the real, real, every case that he's ever been involved in.
[4:26] Of course, these stories are going to come out right away after the action story, Friday.
[4:28] Yeah.
[4:28] They'll probably be, your view there is going to be goddamn rough, aren't they?
[4:29] Yeah.
[4:30] I don't care, frankly.
[4:45] I just don't believe, and I've always thought that, you know, I've been here at Roosevelt.
[4:51] I don't believe that families being involved hurt you all the while.
[4:53] But it could have done things because of his total insistence on being, you know, don't hang around.
[4:55] And he does.
[4:55] He's broken.
[4:55] He's broken to death.
[5:01] I did want to tell you that I had a good talk with Connelly about that, that he said he brought up this, that I brought up a lot.
[5:24] He brought up a lot of that.
[5:25] And I said, well, you know that what John said, yeah.
[5:26] And I said that there was certainly more attention to it.
[5:27] I'm afraid I may have it.
[5:31] Is that real?
[5:54] Yeah, it's good.
[5:54] You were going down there and so forth.
[5:55] We're going to indicate it.
[5:55] I know a lot of things that we won't do at all, but you, I want to chat with him on the plane.
[5:57] John, it just didn't get ready.
[5:58] Maybe we can talk.
[5:58] Is that something that... Yeah, now...
[5:59] Right.
[5:59] What I would suggest on the airplane is to do
[6:01] through this, if you will, the rockers are going down through the state of the hotel.
[6:23] And I don't think you have, so I'm gonna let them sit in the lounge.
[6:24] I think I will let you refuse what is basically the, you know, the two departments, the Hatch Department, okay?
[6:26] What your conversation of that, sir?
[6:27] So you can say, you know, see what I mean?
[6:28] so that you can get as somewhat of an awful feeling so that you can go all night.
[6:40] And I'll say, come on, I don't know about you, but come on.
[6:41] Why don't you all thank me right now?