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that kind of presentation would do

would not help in my harm as far as the President is concerned.

And when I asked you about this before, you said Scali had said he hadn't done that.

He hadn't.

Scali, apparently, said it isn't in there at all.

Because I read the whole thing.

I read it just now, I read it yesterday, and it had nothing in there at all.

It was like Roger's grave, everybody said.

He carried it to the end of the evening, which he did, of course.

But nevertheless, if Roger's going to have it, he might.

But, uh,

And it's, it's relatively accurate in English.

The whole thing, the, his lecture on China and so forth, without very little reference, there's hardly any reference at all to the President's analysis of the world.

What I'm getting at is, Bob, that we must not be under any illusions.

Would you agree or not?

I can't say.

I don't see vital importance in this, but it's the most important thing of all.

You know, I mean, I gave him a little help.

Which could have easily been done because they asked a question.

Sure.

They asked him if there were opportunities to tell us a little about it.

And then he grew off of that.

But I think we must, you know, with all of our great admiration and so forth, we've got to realize that in terms of, that's why I asked you this morning, I said the term, selling the president.

And, well, I was intuiting my rocker, he said it better than me.

We should talk about selling the president.

I really agree.

Thank you.

In this kind of a thing, yeah.

Henry, when he's on stage with a big group of guys, you go back to any of his background with groups of people, he hasn't done that.

I've heard him in conversation do a darn good job of doing it with an individual, but it's something that's really tough.

Yeah.

But he has, some of the stuff he's pumped Joe also out there, because he's been training him that damn good.

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If he gets on, I don't know if he's likely to take, because I tried to read it with a very objective thing, and I must say, it's not the equivalent, but he could have taken the first eight pages and said it was true.

Thank God, though, you know, I'm running off into the third generation, and the first generation, that's a concept that nobody's written.

What the hell have I said a time and again?

I don't remember anything.

But I think what I meant is, again, in terms of writing the story for them, you know, you did not write the story for them, but some of them are smart enough to pick it up.

So you've got to be accurate with what you're going to do.

Thank you.

That's basically a we rather than an I.

It's very important to see.

The point is that Henry should not educate the females that he makes the decision as to what he's going to say to the young, and so it's very, very subtle things.

Yes, sir.

I'm just seeing some danger developing along those lines of a test of your, you know, power behind the throne, et cetera.

You have to see a problem in the future.

What part are you in?

It could be in the kids' away.

I don't think it's a real thing.

Yeah.

It sure is a problem in the future.

Mm-hmm.

He doesn't think that way.

I mean, he's talking completely unguardedly and not on stage.

But he knows strongly this operation and the things he's done about it.

But he goes beyond his own, you know, to go beyond a person who I've cut down.

Yeah.

I've had books, I've got a number one.

The second I get to the Bible, I'm quite good at it.

Also, I've got a number four, so...

But that's the end of it.

I'm a professor, and he always gives a test to go all the way to the point, and answer every point, make every point, and so forth and so on.

It's interesting that Mitchell feels that you've got to do the right thing.

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We always do.

even with our own ambassadors, because they are captives of their own people, their bureaucracy.

It was an advantage in China not having the embassy to be run at all.

The first thing is we're going to get Henry.

Henry can see a way that he can

So that Rogers can be in the meeting to start a meeting with him separately.

He's got to be in time to go along.

And then you tell Rogers it's just whatever kind of game.

He's starting to realize that.

So I don't know what he can do about it.

He's the one that's causing his troubles.

I think he's seen some of that.

I think that's why he took this different kind of line on that.

Instead of apologizing to the Congress, he's trying to say there aren't any.

Well, not only in state, but he's got that tied rope so far now that I'm not sure he's gonna do much on that.

He's got his people.

saying that the state's been downgraded and saying that they're pitching about their morale and things like that.

I don't know if that's correct.

Thank you.

All right.

Okay.

How did that just sound?

Pretty good, Chad.

Yeah.

He was pretty pleased with the action, huh?

Yep.

Yeah.