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Nixon & Haig on National Security Council and Department of State

Tuesday, March 7, 1972 · 2:26 PM–2:27 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.Conversation322-026 on Tape 322 (tape position 01:12:11–01:14:21)StartTuesday, March 7, 1972 at 2:26 PMEndTuesday, March 7, 1972 at 2:27 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 322-026 ↗

President Nixon and Alexander Haig discuss the return of Henry Kissinger and coordination issues between the National Security Council and the Department of State. Nixon expresses strong resistance to the idea of allowing a State Department official to join his team, emphasizing the need to maintain control over his advisory structure. The discussion touches upon broader geopolitical strategy, noting the distinct leadership dynamics between Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev and Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai.

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So, hello, Al, is Henry back at, uh, Conner?
Yeah.
Uh, fine.
When he gets back, uh, you have him, if it's before, before, I don't know exactly where he'll be.
Have him drop open, he'll be, yeah.
Oh, okay, Al.
Oh, fine, well.
Nobody's very smart.
Yeah.
Well, here.
How did they, uh, well, how did, uh, how did, uh, Rogers and, uh, really conquer?
Yeah.
That's good, that's good.
I did hope we could get him to turn around.
He's very sensitive on this, and I'm going to have to see him today about it.
The main thing I have to be concerned about is the seat.
We just can't get him into the...
I mean, I think if the Russians had engaged him, because Brezhnev, I'm sure, will have, you know, more of a plenary session coming, and Brezhnev is the man in charge there, whereas Joe is the man in charge in China, right?
And, uh, so that'll work out.
But the other thing is, uh, is, uh, is this, uh, this whole system that, uh, because we have this NSC man sitting on his team, and there should be a state man sitting on my team.
That's just unpredictable.
I'm not going to have a state man sitting on my team.
I'm going to have a state man sitting on my team.
Do you agree?
What is it, Mr. O'Reilly, that you've been telling me to do?
We're going back to the government after all.
I never got to know anybody else.
I don't know what's going on here.
I don't know what's going on here.

On March 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:26 pm to 2:27 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 322-026 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 322-26

Date: March 7, 1972
Time: 2:26 pm - 2:27 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

[See Conversation No. 21-15]
  • 021-012 2:18 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 2:18 pm.
  • 021-013 2:18 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:18 pm and 2:26 pm.
  • 021-014 2:18 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:18 pm and 2:26 pm.
  • 322-024 2:18 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 2:18 pm.
  • 322-025 2:18 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:18 pm and 2:26 pm.
  • 021-015 2:26 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone from 2:26 pm to 2:27 pm.
  • 021-016 2:29 PM · 28 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Abraham A. Ribicoff talked on the telephone from 2:29 pm to 2:38 pm.
  • 322-027 2:29 PM · 30 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Abraham A. Ribicoff met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:29 pm to 2:30 pm.

Conversation 322-026, March 7, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/322-026 (accessed October 2, 2026).