{"conversationCode":"322-040","tapeNumber":322,"conversationNumber":40,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-322-040","startDateTime":"1972-03-09T19:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-09T21:30:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Mar-1972","startTime":"2:40 PM","endDate":"9-Mar-1972","endTime":"4:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On March 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:40 pm and 4:30 pm. 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Scali\n\n     People’s Republic of China [PRC]\n          -US position\n          -Position\n                -Compared to US position\n                     -Kissinger’s backgrounder\n                     -Communiqué\n\n     President’s previous trip to the USSR, July 1959\n           -Addressing the people of USSR\n                -Radio and television\n                -Media coverage\n                -State Department speech draft\n                -Llewellyn E. (“Tommy”) Thompson, Jr.\n                      -Kitchen Debate\n                -Speech\n                      -Tone\n                      -1960 election\n                      -Significance\n                      -Effect\n                            -Americans-USSR\n                                   -Reaction\n                                        -St. Louis Dispatch\n                                              -Favorable editorial\n\n     PRC\n           -Communiqué\n                -Tone\n                      -Leadership\n                            -Public opinion\n           -Perception of the President\n           -Americans\n                -Right-wing","filename":["322-040.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:06:40","tapeEnd":"02:15:56","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A.","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"322-039","nextCode":"322-041","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":23.66,"text":"Random to history."},{"start":23.68,"end":24.06,"text":"One copy to Holden."},{"start":24.08,"end":24.6,"text":"On the one copy to Holden."},{"start":24.62,"end":24.9,"text":"For this memo."},{"start":24.92,"end":25.24,"text":"Random to Henry."},{"start":25.26,"end":27.12,"text":"And I am certainly on some occasion when you're talking to a client, so if you're in the sky."},{"start":27.14,"end":27.9,"text":"And especially when I'm in the center."},{"start":27.92,"end":28.1,"text":"The cops."},{"start":28.12,"end":28.5,"text":"That's a bad thing."},{"start":29.92,"end":50.03,"text":"in relation to our state and our organization."},{"start":50.05,"end":50.87,"text":"We've trained you well in the background."},{"start":50.89,"end":51.63,"text":"We're going to put you on the ground."},{"start":51.65,"end":52.39,"text":"We're going to put you on the 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