Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 322-056
Date: Tuesday, March 14, 1972 at 4:18 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/322-056

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[0:00] Hello?
[0:06] Yeah.
[0:06] Well, how did our boy Mitchell do today?
[0:26] Of course, he's like a rocket for him.
[0:27] He's in there, I tell you, some way.
[0:32] The fight is instead of doing the business of the government, this Congress is a smear day Congress rather than a law day Congress.
[0:44] They ought to have a law day.
[0:45] We've got 91 programs up there and they haven't passed anything.
[0:49] It's a smear day Congress that will go down in history.
[0:51] It's a smear day rather than a law day.
[0:57] Pretty weird that he would have hit that line.
[1:01] Eagle is crooked as an all-time leg.
[1:06] How in the God damn name can he get into this?
[1:09] I don't know.
[1:09] Why didn't somebody go after him?
[1:12] Is anybody checking his stuff?
[1:21] Well, God damn it, where did he get on it?
[1:22] Did he... What's the name of his gunner?
[1:23] How did he get in?
[1:23] Why did he sign it then?
[1:27] I see.
[1:33] If he says that, it'll kill him.
[1:45] If he ever says they're part of it.
[1:52] Right.
[1:52] You haven't checked.
[1:52] You haven't got him.
[1:53] You have to check typewriters.
[1:54] They did it in the Hiss case.
[1:56] Kick him in the ass.
[2:21] Good deal.
[2:21] No.
[2:21] We guessed who it is and asked him to find out.
[2:32] I have an idea in terms of what's going on, as to whether to find out.
[2:38] I wonder if Kennedy can steer a little bit the pieces out of him, to send him to get off of this, you know, you know, get on with it.
[2:43] Well, if she isn't there, somebody's going to be ready to, the troops are going to come out and get off of it fast.
[3:07] You've got to protect yourself.
[3:08] I work right, I'm scared to death, the memos are fake, and you better protect yourself fast in the next case.
[3:13] The star, they must have felt that much of it, too.
[3:34] It must have sounded very incredible if they wouldn't have acted like it needed to.
[3:36] All right, look good?
[3:44] I mean, we gave this to him.
[3:52] I had just done something real nice to the star.
[3:54] And you notice, boy, that was a fantastic break for him.
[3:59] You notice that was on all three members?
[4:02] And they'd get cross.
[4:03] You know, he'd get by the line.
[4:16] Okay.
[4:37] to make Marlowe answer questions, though.
[4:47] He will, but preparing him.
[4:49] Preparing him, I mean, how many years?
[4:51] You can find out through private investigators how many, how early they saw each other, how often they saw each other, how many times.
[4:57] You know, just keep counting, and counting, and counting.
[4:59] Say, now, you're under oath.
[4:59] I ask you to say, you're under oath.
[5:00] I warn you, you're under oath.
[5:01] And I ask you then, when he looks at something, that he's got a record.
[5:02] That's the way I broke his.
[5:05] That's right.
[5:07] Here.
[5:09] Here.
[5:09] He knows how to do that.
[5:11] Play the game as if he's got a memorandum.
[5:13] Now I ask you this question.
[5:17] What about that?
[5:18] So he'll scare the shit out of them.
[5:22] He's mean.
[5:23] That's definitely a word.
[5:31] He should have got it at the letter.
[5:40] He's dead.
[5:40] He's dead.
[5:41] He's dead.
[5:42] Now look.
[5:44] I ordered all of them today.
[5:48] For Christ's sake, get back.
[5:50] Find out.
[5:50] Has anybody checked to see how much IT&T grew during Kennedy?
[5:55] How much it grew during Johnson here?
[5:57] See what I mean?
[5:58] You'll find most of the growth occurred in the eight years before we ever got in.
[6:03] All right, fine.
[6:04] And then we'll say, what was done?
[6:05] That's when they grew.
[6:06] What the hell happened to McLaren?
[6:07] Get that to McLaren so that he's got some evidence to see.
[6:11] Or he certainly knows them.
[6:14] Is he really mad?
[6:15] But he knows, look, McLaren, let's face it, he would have rather appealed the case on him soon.
[6:21] But he's an honest man.
[6:22] He would have resigned before he would have settled the case.
[6:33] He was the one who started out the compliance.
[6:35] Who the hell started the policy?
[6:37] And frankly, I think it was wrong, but we did it.
[6:44] Thank you so much.
[7:04] Thank you.
[7:16] Yeah.
[7:17] What's the situation with regard to that jerk, uh, Rank, that you've been attempted by, and Stinch and all that?
[7:25] Those are the ones that I used on Wilson.
[7:34] The other one is Mark.
[7:35] I just dumped Bob Wilson.
[7:41] It was an utter disaster.
[7:42] There we go.
[7:43] The Christ of Kennedy Johnson, from their administrations,
[8:13] that included Bobby Kennedy and that included Ramsey Clark.
[8:17] What did they do all this time?
[8:19] What did they do?
[8:21] See my point?
[8:21] Hit them by name.
[8:22] Ramsey Clark sat by a lot of the girls.
[8:33] Okay.
[8:34] A lot going on.
[8:35] Don't let your people get discouraged.
[8:39] God damn it.
[8:40] They're a fight.
[8:41] I remember back in the days where
[8:43] In this case, poor Carl Hunt was so scared he could not stay there, he left.
[8:49] He left town.
[8:49] That's why I got rid of a very good case, because he left town.
[8:52] But this is the time when men stand up, and you stand up, you win.
[8:58] Well, I'd like to cross him, I do.
[9:02] Yeah.
[9:06] Don't worry about the board.
[9:21] Don't worry about the time.
[9:25] Despite the cold, you may not have a bunch of movement.
[9:27] Keep calm.
[9:29] Don't worry about it.
[9:32] Good.
[9:40] I know there's something there.
[9:51] I'd like you to tie it right here.