{"conversationCode":"323-010","tapeNumber":323,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-323-010","startDateTime":"1972-03-13T23:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-13T23:17:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Mar-1972","startTime":"6:12 PM","endDate":"13-Mar-1972","endTime":"6:17 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On March 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:12 pm to 6:17 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 323-010 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 323-10\n\nDate: March 13, 1972\nTime: 6:12 pm - 6:17 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.\n\n[See Conversation No. 21-58]","filename":["323a.mp3","323b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:13:11","tapeEnd":"01:16:58","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"323-009","nextCode":"323-011","tapeTranscriptFile":"323a.mp3,323b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":4409.48,"end":4409.72,"text":"All right."},{"start":4410.52,"end":4413.28,"text":"So, just between draft and busting, any last-minute news?"},{"start":4413.36,"end":4413.56,"text":"What?"},{"start":4413.58,"end":4415.86,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":4423.06,"end":4426.23,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":4426.24,"end":4426.4,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4429.57,"end":4434.61,"text":"I'll leave all that out, but I just want to be sure that we don't put..."},{"start":4442.14,"end":4444.76,"text":"Oh, of course."},{"start":4468.45,"end":4470.44,"text":"But I don't trust him."},{"start":4470.45,"end":4484.77,"text":"I'm just thinking that after we're there."},{"start":4484.85,"end":4490.67,"text":"Except that he knows a hell of a lot about work."},{"start":4490.73,"end":4493.65,"text":"He is a tough, able man."},{"start":4494.01,"end":4495.13,"text":"He's a hard worker."},{"start":4499.55,"end":4505.2,"text":"The idea of a military guy who appeals to me to understand is that my husband would like to use your name."},{"start":4505.22,"end":4505.4,"text":"Why not?"},{"start":4505.42,"end":4506.54,"text":"I'll need it."},{"start":4506.56,"end":4526.49,"text":"He at least could talk to a military police officer and he said, I've never been a lot, but maybe you'll be able to like it."},{"start":4526.51,"end":4527.19,"text":"If you remember what I said,"},{"start":4585.95,"end":4599.41,"text":"What is your, when you go to the market, where do you start?"},{"start":4599.71,"end":4606.27,"text":"Okay, all right."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":4386.375,"end":4621,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger met to discuss the potential appointment or utilization of a specific military official, reflecting on the candidate's professional capabilities and personal reliability. Despite expressing reservations about trusting the individual, Nixon acknowledged the candidate's hard-working nature and expertise. The brief exchange focused on evaluating this figure's suitability for a role requiring military credibility.","topics":["Personnel appointments","Military leadership","White House staffing","Political strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T15:03:26.892Z"},"topicSlugs":["personnel-appointments","military-leadership","white-house-staffing","political-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":227,"audioFiles":[{"file":"323a.mp3","bytes":117327329,"durationSec":7349.77,"bitrate":127707,"missing":false},{"file":"323b.mp3","bytes":112998581,"durationSec":7078.38,"bitrate":127711,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:41.568Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/323a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/323b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/323-010","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/323/conversation-323-010","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}