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Nixon & Sanchez on School busing and Public address

Thursday, March 16, 1972 · 9:17 PM–9:40 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, ManoloConversation323-028 on Tape 323 (tape position 02:18:21–02:19:33)StartThursday, March 16, 1972 at 9:17 PMEndThursday, March 16, 1972 at 9:40 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 323-028 ↗

President Nixon consulted with his valet, Manolo Sanchez, while reviewing remarks for a public address regarding school busing and educational policy. Nixon articulated a middle-ground position that rejected the extremes of both forced busing and total inaction, positioning his proposal as a reflection of the American majority's desire for quality education. This interaction served as an informal sounding board for the President to refine the rhetorical balance of his upcoming message to Congress and the public.

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2:18:34and providing quality of education for all of our children.
2:18:37I urge you to let your Congressmen and Senators know your views, so that the Congress will have confidence in you in this Congress.
2:18:46I will also encourage you to note that this is a deeply emotional destination.
2:18:49I have done my very best to undertake to weigh and balance all the way and respect that the country has.
2:18:56To strike a balance which is vulnerable and just.
2:18:58To search for answers that will best serve all our nations.
2:19:03I realize the program I recommended will not satisfy the extremists on the one side, who oppose busting for their own reasons.
2:19:09And I realize my program will not satisfy the extreme social planners on the other side, who insist on more busting for their own better education.
2:19:15And while what I have said tonight will not agree with either extreme, I believe I am expressing the views of the majority of Americans.
2:19:27I believe that the majority of Americans always want more busting stopped and better education started

On March 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:17 pm and 9:40 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 323-028 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 323-28

Date: March 16, 1972
Time: Unknown between 9:17 pm and 9:40 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Manolo Sanchez.

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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 9:40 pm.
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Conversation 323-028, March 17, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/323-028 (accessed October 3, 2026).