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Start Date: 17-Mar-1972 3:05 PM

End Date: 17-Mar-1972 4:37 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")[Unknown person(s)]Sanchez, ManoloKissinger, Henry A.Ehrlichman, John D.White House operator

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:39:57

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:51:49

323a.mp3

323b.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), Manolo Sanchez, Henry A. Kissinger, John D. Ehrlichman, and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:05 pm to 4:37 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 323-033 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 323-33

Date: March 17, 1972
Time: 3:05 pm - 4:37 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
           -Ronald L. Ziegler’s meeting with the President
                -Strategy
                      -White House involvement
                      -Charles W. Colson
           -Photograph
                -Dita D. Beard and Jack N. Anderson’s secretaries
                      -Party
                      -Marlow W. Cook
                            -Colson
                      -Newspapers
                            -White House involvement
                                 -Anderson
                            -Colson
                                 -Ziegler
                -Party
                      -Waiter’s statement
                            -Colson
                      -Doorman’s statement
                      -Harold S. Geneen
                            -Sheraton Hotel
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                        -Beard


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Privacy]
[Duration: 9s ]




END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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         -Investigation
              -Colson
                     -Beard memorandum
                          -Typewriter
                                -Pearl L. Tytell
              -Senate hearings
         -Lawyers
              -Press conference
                     -Deposition
                          -Beard’s secretary
                                -Typing of memorandum
              -Typewriter
                     -Tytell
                     -Type of ribbon
                          -Timing of typing of memorandum
         -Roman L. Hruska [?]
              -Speech in the Senate
                     -Charges
         -Authenticity of memorandum
              -Howard Hughes comparison
              -Typewriter
              -Beard
         -Republicans
              -Confirmation of Richard G. Kleindienst
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                  -Investigation of Anderson
             -Spiro T. Agnew’s speech
                  -Draft
                  -Timing
                        -Memorandum
             -Ziegler
                  -Questions
                        -White House involvement
                              -Photograph


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 4m 36s ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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   Public relations
        -The President’s previous trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
               -[The President’s recent meeting with Citizens Advisory Council on Status of
Women]
        The President’s previous speech on busing
               -Haldeman’s view
                    -Public interest in issue
                    -Image of President during speech
                          -Compared to press conference
                    -Time
                    -Teleprompter compared to reading
                          -Length of speech

     Press
             -Patrick J. Buchanan
             -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
             -Colson
             -Editorial material
                   -Congressional hearings
                         -Alger Hiss investigation and Joseph McCarthy era
                              -Rules of the court
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              -The President’s instructions
                    -Double standard by press
                           -Forthcoming paper
                                -Period from 1947-1950
                                -McCarthy era
                                -Congressional committees
                                      -Attacks by press
                           -Forthcoming press briefings
                                -Herbert G. Klein
                                -Agnew
         -The President
              -Slander by the press
                    -Attorney General
                    -White House staff
         -Liberals
         -Paper or article
              -Buchanan


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 14
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 2m 17s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 14

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    The President’s schedule
         -Use of Camp David
              -William P. Rogers
              -Melvin R. Laird
              -White House staff
         -Church services
         -Forthcoming Soviet trip
         -Summer
         -Conventions
              -Campaign
         -Church services
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         -Press conferences and briefings



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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 3m 20s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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    Unknown man
        -Compared to Walter Taylor
        -South American trip
        -The President’s view

    George H. W. Bush
         -Speeches
              -Foreign policy
                    -Taiwan, Republic of China
              -Partisan requests
                    -Fundraisers
                          -The President’s view
                               -Role as US ambassador to the United Nations [UN]
                                     -Rogers
                               -Private social functions
         -Forthcoming dinner
              -Guests
                    -John B. and Idanell B. (“Nellie”) Connally
                    -Haldemans
                    -Russell B. Long
                    -Betty Beale
                    -Austrian Ambassador [Karl J. Gruber?]
                    -Haldeman’s view
                          -Theodore L. Elliot, Jr.[?]
                               -Composition of dinner guest lists
                    -Austrian ambassador [Gruber?]
                          -Haldeman’s view
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                     -The President’s view

Connally
    -Haldeman’s view
    -The President’s view
         -Price draft of unknown speech
    -Haldeman’s view
         -Herbert Stein
               -Stein’s view
         -Paul Volcker
               -Past meetings at sub-secretary level
                     -Charls E. Walker
                           -The President’s view
         -Peter Flanigan
    -The President’s view
    -Haldeman’s view

Foreign Policy
     -Biological weapons
          -The President’s possible participation in a treaty signing
                -Rogers and Henry A. Kissinger
                     -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                            -Aleksei N. Kosygin’s possible attendance at ceremony
                                 -Moscow
                     -British
                            -London
                     -Dobrynin
                     -PRC
                -Possible remarks by the President
                -Location of ceremony
                     -White House
                     -State Department
                     -Number of guests
                     -East Room
     -Proposed meeting with Manea Manescu[?]
          -Rogers and Kissinger
          -Possible message from Nicolae Ceausescu

The President’s schedule
     -Meeting with John C. Stennis
          -Clark MacGregor’s request
                 -War powers legislation
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The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 3:05 pm and 4:34
pm.

[Conversation No. 323-33A]

     Unknown person’s schedule

[End of telephone conversation]

     The President’s schedule
          -Meeting with Phillip V. Sanchez

     Press conference
           -Timing
           -Preparation
           -Television
           -ITT answer
                -Richard G. Kleindienst confirmation
                      -National television
           -Timing
                -The President’s view
                -The President’s schedule
                      -Forthcoming state dinner
                      -Florida
           -ITT
                -Beard’s testimony
                -Anderson
                -White House involvement
           -Busing
                -Moratorium
                      -News coverage
           -Preparation
                -Radio
                      -Microphones
           -Television
           -Locations
                -California
           -The President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 14s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7

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     The President’s schedule
          -Dinners
               -White House photographers’ dinner
               -White House Correspondents’ dinner
                      -The President’s view
               -Gridiron dinner
                      -Ronald L. Ziegler
          -Ray Bill [?] delegation


Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:05 pm.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 3m 30s ]


Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:34 pm.


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8

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     The President’s schedule
          -Chief Justice dinner
          -Mexican delegation
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         -George R. S. Baring [Earl of Cromer] lunch

    Busing issue
         -Right wing compared to left wing
         -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
         -Strom Thurmond
         -Legislation
         -Constitutional amendment
         -Moratorium
               -The President’s view
         -Supreme Court
               -Southerners
                     -William J. Brennan, Jr.
         -Edward L. Morgan
         -The President’s view
               -Questions from the press
         -Haldeman’s view
               -John D. Ehrlichman
         -Haldeman’s view
               -Patrick J. Buchanan
               -Dwight L. Chapin

    1972 campaign
         -Activity in Dade County, Florida
               -Sign postings
                     -Edmund S. Muskie
                          -Busing
         -Strategy
               -Edward M. Kennedy
                     -Colson

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 22s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11

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     The President’s schedule
          -Press conference

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 10m 4s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12

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An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time after 3:05 pm.

     Call to Kissinger
           -Haldeman

Haldeman talked with Kissinger at an unknown time between 3:05 pm and 4:34 pm.

[Conversation No. 323-33B]

     Kissinger’s schedule
          -Meeting
                -Old Executive Office Building Office [EOB]

[End of telephone conversation]

     The President’s schedule
          -Press conference
               -Timing
               -In-office
               -Television
               -ITT answer
                      -Options
                      -Comments
                      -Kleindienst

The President talked with Ehrlichman at an unknown time between 3:05 pm and 4:34 pm.
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[Conversation No. 323-33C]

     Busing issue
          -Statement
          -Southerners
          -Moratorium
                -Constitutionality
          -Congress
                -Leaders
                -Moratorium
                -Legislation
          -Intervention by the Department of Justice [DOJ]
                -Kleindienst confirmation
                      -Mitchell
                           -Michigan cases

[End of telephone conversation]

     Busing issue
          -Legislation
                -South
                     -Compared to North
          -North
          -Travel time for children
          -Poor people
          -Previous speech
          -Constitutional amendment
          -Court cases
          -Public opinion

The President talked with the White House operator at 4:34 pm.

[Conversation No. 323-33D]

[See Conversation No. 21-101]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Busing

The White House operator talked with the President at 4:34 pm.
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[Conversation No. 323-33E]

[See Conversation No. 21-102]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Richard G. Kleindienst
          -Denver
          -Los Angeles
          -Michael J. Mansfield
          -Forthcoming call from Haldeman

Kissinger entered at 4:35 pm.

     Dobrynin
         -Telephone call

     Kissinger’s schedule
          -Trip
                -Ride
                      -Time

The President, Haldeman, and Kissinger left at 4:37 pm.