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Nixon & Eisenhower on Family plans and School busing legislation

Friday, March 17, 1972 · 5:36 PM–5:40 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation324-005 on Tape 324 (tape position 00:05:18–00:07:43)StartFriday, March 17, 1972 at 5:36 PMEndFriday, March 17, 1972 at 5:40 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 324-005 ↗

President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, coordinate their upcoming personal schedule, including a dinner engagement and movie plans for the family. Amidst these personal logistics, the President briefly touches upon his heavy workload and political maneuvering regarding legislative efforts for a school busing moratorium. He notes that while some southern factions sought to reopen related cases, he and Senator Mike Mansfield reached an understanding to proceed with the current legislative strategy.

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Hello?
Hello?
All right, good.
You got her here all right?
Fine, fine.
Oh, she got back, didn't she?
Oh, that's fine.
That's fine.
That's fine.
6.30.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
And, uh... Well, you pick a good movie.
I probably can't see it because I'm in the middle of a...
I'm behind...
But I'll be there.
I'll be there throughout the dinner.
But what movie are you going to see?
I don't know.
I know.
So that's very, very confusing.
I just not going to be able to spend any time with you this weekend.
I am.
I am.
I am not.
I'm head over heels now because of this.
You see where I'm always going to be.
So...
But I'll come over to dinner.
I'll be there at 6.30, right?
The main thing is to make it fun for Mommy, and then you all have a movie.
And I may not be able to be there tomorrow night, but I think I have to go.
I'll come back to work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, the extreme people on both sides, some of the southerners wanted to reopen the case, but we can't do that.
The legislation will allow it to, but we, and Mansfield finally, he said it goes too far as to support it.
We're going to get the moratorium through, so that's a good start.
But look, I don't want, I don't want them, I don't want Jack not having a good time, but I just have time to talk to him right now and see my point.
Yeah.
So, showing him around, showing him the movies, and all that sort of thing.
And, uh... Yeah.
Right.
So, go ahead.
And, uh, I thought you should know that I'm from Augusta.
All right.
Fine.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Be glad you're here.

On March 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:36 pm to 5:40 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 324-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 324-5

Date: March 17, 1972
Time: 5:36 pm - 5:40 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/11/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[324-005-w001]
[Duration: 1m 30s]

[See Conversation No. 021-106-w001]

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/11/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[324-005-w002]
[Duration: 33s]

[See Conversation No. 021-106-w002]

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  • 324-001 5:25 PM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:25 pm and 5:29 pm.
  • 324-002 5:25 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:25 pm and 5:32 pm.
  • 021-104 5:29 PM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone from 5:29 pm to 5:30 pm.
  • 021-105 5:30 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:30 pm and 5:36 pm.
  • 324-003 5:32 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:32 pm and 5:36 pm.
  • 324-004 5:32 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:32 pm and 5:36 pm.
  • 021-106 5:36 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 5:36 pm to 5:40 pm.
  • 324-006 5:40 PM · 25 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:40 pm and 5:47 pm.

Conversation 324-005, March 17, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/324-005 (accessed October 3, 2026).