{"conversationCode":"324-005","tapeNumber":324,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-324-005","startDateTime":"1972-03-17T22:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-17T22:40:00.000Z","startDate":"17-Mar-1972","startTime":"5:36 PM","endDate":"17-Mar-1972","endTime":"5:40 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;","description":"On March 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:36 pm to 5:40 pm. 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(President)","Eisenhower, Julie Nixon"],"prevCode":"324-004","nextCode":"324-006","transcript":[{"start":0.69,"end":6.4,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":10.78,"end":12.9,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":23.96,"end":24.28,"text":"All right, good."},{"start":24.3,"end":24.84,"text":"You got her here all right?"},{"start":24.86,"end":25.08,"text":"Fine, fine."},{"start":25.1,"end":25.76,"text":"Oh, she got back, didn't she?"},{"start":25.78,"end":26.1,"text":"Oh, that's fine."},{"start":26.12,"end":26.48,"text":"That's fine."},{"start":26.5,"end":26.9,"text":"That's fine."},{"start":26.92,"end":27.02,"text":"6.30."},{"start":27.04,"end":27.18,"text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":27.2,"end":27.34,"text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":27.36,"end":27.46,"text":"Okay."},{"start":27.48,"end":28.56,"text":"And, uh... Well, you pick a good movie."},{"start":28.58,"end":29.72,"text":"I probably can't see it because I'm in the middle of a..."},{"start":29.74,"end":30,"text":"I'm behind..."},{"start":36.5,"end":59.91,"text":"But I'll be there."},{"start":59.93,"end":60.65,"text":"I'll be there throughout the dinner."},{"start":60.67,"end":61.39,"text":"But what movie are you going to see?"},{"start":61.41,"end":61.67,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":61.69,"end":61.83,"text":"I know."},{"start":61.85,"end":62.47,"text":"So that's very, very confusing."},{"start":62.49,"end":63.85,"text":"I just not going to be able to spend any time with you this weekend."},{"start":63.88,"end":63.98,"text":"I am."},{"start":63.99,"end":64.09,"text":"I am."},{"start":64.11,"end":64.3,"text":"I am not."},{"start":64.32,"end":65.12,"text":"I'm head over heels now because of this."},{"start":65.14,"end":65.88,"text":"You see where I'm always going to be."},{"start":65.9,"end":66,"text":"So..."},{"start":66.59,"end":88.7,"text":"But I'll come over to dinner."},{"start":88.72,"end":89.3,"text":"I'll be there at 6.30, right?"},{"start":89.32,"end":90.8,"text":"The main thing is to make it fun for Mommy, and then you all have a movie."},{"start":90.82,"end":92.32,"text":"And I may not be able to be there tomorrow night, but I think I have to go."},{"start":92.34,"end":92.8,"text":"I'll come back to work."},{"start":92.82,"end":92.92,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":92.94,"end":93.04,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":93.06,"end":93.16,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":93.18,"end":93.28,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":93.3,"end":93.4,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":93.42,"end":93.52,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":93.74,"end":115.74,"text":"Well, the extreme people on both sides, some of the southerners wanted to reopen the case, but we can't do that."},{"start":115.76,"end":117.88,"text":"The legislation will allow it to, but we, and Mansfield finally, he said it goes too far as to support it."},{"start":117.9,"end":119.22,"text":"We're going to get the moratorium through, so that's a good start."},{"start":119.24,"end":122.21,"text":"But look, I don't want, I don't want them, I don't want Jack not having a good time, but I just have time to talk to him right now and see my point."},{"start":122.23,"end":122.33,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":122.56,"end":142.42,"text":"So, showing him around, showing him the movies, and all that sort of thing."},{"start":142.44,"end":142.76,"text":"And, uh... Yeah."},{"start":142.78,"end":142.9,"text":"Right."},{"start":142.92,"end":143.18,"text":"So, go ahead."},{"start":143.2,"end":144.34,"text":"And, uh, I thought you should know that I'm from Augusta."},{"start":144.37,"end":144.56,"text":"All right."},{"start":144.59,"end":144.69,"text":"Fine."},{"start":144.71,"end":144.91,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":144.93,"end":145.13,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":145.15,"end":145.55,"text":"Be glad you're here."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, coordinate their upcoming personal schedule, including a dinner engagement and movie plans for the family. Amidst these personal logistics, the President briefly touches upon his heavy workload and political maneuvering regarding legislative efforts for a school busing moratorium. 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