Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 324-012
Date: Monday, March 20, 1972 at 5:21 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); [Unknown person(s)]; Ziegler, Ronald L.; White House operator; Ehrlichman, John D.; Bull, Stephen B.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/324-012

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[0:00] So, anything new on the typewriter?
[0:22] There's something you can't use it.
[0:51] It's pretty hard to remove, except that it looks like it is.
[1:18] Gas, the last gas for the Saturday post-match report.
[1:19] It hurts me, I guess.
[1:20] Yeah, I see.
[1:20] Yeah.
[1:20] I got that.
[1:27] I just can't.
[1:40] Well, anyway.
[1:52] The Bureau's sometimes normally weren't too damn hopeful in the distance.
[1:53] I made a door for me outside.
[1:54] She had never been in a public conversation.
[1:55] No way.
[1:55] The Bureau's going to stay up.
[1:55] Yeah.
[1:55] That's why they could.
[1:56] Too bad you haven't done some hard evidence as well.
[1:58] Let them fight it out, okay?
[2:06] All right.
[2:06] How you doing?
[2:06] All right.
[2:16] One way you might get a break from some other very few other people.
[2:22] When did their hearing start?
[2:22] Right into that line.
[2:23] No more hearing until they go again.
[2:26] That's right.
[2:27] Let them go out on their own.
[2:48] Good.
[2:48] Well, okay.
[2:48] Bye.
[2:49] Chuck talked to her earlier about the FBI.
[2:49] I talked to her.
[2:50] I talked to Mitchell.
[2:58] Unequivocal, you know, an equivocal, totally equivocal attitude that you cannot control.
[3:20] That's all.
[3:20] I told you.
[3:20] Yeah.
[3:20] There's a question in my mind about it.
[3:21] There's something through with it that I...
[3:22] I'll tell you, the more I get into this, you know, instead of pursuing this thing you were concerned about, I'm not going to screw it.
[3:26] I'm convinced that this is the snake in the woodpile.
[3:46] Every line that you start, at least potentially, it's only circumstantial, but it's all on the back of the weasel.
[3:49] How the hell did he get mad?
[3:49] What made him mad?
[3:50] I'm not sure.
[3:50] That's the thing.
[3:50] I can't quite figure it out.
[3:51] I'm not sure he's even mad.
[3:51] I'm not sure he's just...
[3:53] I mean, he's trying to get somebody, but I can't figure out who, right?
[4:15] I don't... Do you have a fight with Kambach?
[4:16] I don't think so.
[4:17] I don't.
[4:17] They had a...
[4:17] They had a, uh... A recent one with Kambach when they started pumping on where that money came from in 70 or something like that.
[4:20] Kambach's out.
[4:20] Maybe that was the fight.
[4:20] But I haven't seen him with Kambach this year.
[4:21] But he's with our AT&T.
[4:22] No.
[4:22] He's with his own consulting firm he just retained by the end of the year.
[4:44] He has a private firm in the middle of the park.
[4:45] Well, he ought to buy them.
[4:45] I'm sure they'll retain him damn well tomorrow.
[4:46] He's doing some freelance writing for Kevin Phillips.
[4:47] He writes for Kevin Phillips.
[4:48] He writes about campaign financing for Kevin Phillips.
[4:49] He writes about all that health fund.
[4:50] But who was he working for?
[5:16] Stans, or?
[5:16] He was working for Stans.
[5:17] And then he was working at the White House.
[5:17] He worked for him.
[5:18] Why don't you ask him?
[5:24] ... ... ... ...
[5:48] Well, he knows all that.
[6:07] You've got a lot worse things coming, haven't you?
[6:09] Not really.
[6:09] Why?
[6:09] Well, because it wasn't my fault.
[6:10] A lot of it's already gone.
[6:10] That's an old story.
[6:11] I see he got partly injured already because they started zeroing in on some of the candidates.
[6:13] And they said it came from racing.
[6:13] And that's one of the reasons.
[6:14] Combat told me to keep quiet.
[6:15] And they said, you're sending them on a vacation.
[6:16] The other tip-off, I look back and read the story.
[6:40] The other tip-off to Gleason, and it is in the next sentence, it says,
[6:42] And I've heard that Watson should remind them of their loyalty to the Republican Party from that time.
[7:02] And they said, also, he and White House aide Bob Mullen collected $3 million for the congressional campaign, senatorial candidates in 1970.
[7:04] And, well, he's the only one that knew where I live in that country.
[7:06] You were caught.
[7:21] I didn't collect the nickel.
[7:22] I don't know where any of it came from, but I was dispersing.
[7:23] Remember, we finally, because we had Murray and Rumsfeld, Finch, all those people, and we finally zeroed it down.
[7:25] We made up a list.
[7:26] Dispersements were made only on my instructions, so we had a single focal point of control.
[7:27] Did you ever have an argument with the police?
[7:28] No.
[7:30] I don't think so.
[7:51] And he's, nothing has ever come out of this except for my name appearing on something like that.
[7:53] But he's never made me directly.
[7:53] And I don't think we ever had any sub-two at all.
[7:54] And why not?
[7:55] Because I have a feeling now that Colson has this.
[7:56] I think he did have some friends from Colson.
[7:58] I'm trying to get some of that money for, you know, his own purposes.
[8:21] I think that's what he said to the police.
[8:22] And then he got cross-wise on.
[8:23] Colson was going to, Bob Colson was going to Mulcahy for money separately from him.
[8:24] Mulcahy got upset.
[8:25] Mulcahy understands.
[8:25] That's what he said to the police.
[8:26] All those guys, they're the only ones.
[8:28] That was all my deal with them.
[8:49] There was nothing wrong with them.
[8:50] They were reported, particularly when we get some of them not reported.
[8:52] According to the candidates, they reported them.
[8:53] If you've been in their state, they promised they all were going to be able to report them.
[8:54] That isn't our problem.
[8:55] That's their... We got into the problem because they started this research out.
[8:56] They started checking and discovered that Clubby and Burke and all these different guys got...
[8:59] We've got money from this thing.
[9:19] Okay.
[9:19] But the little committee, well, I've never shown you.
[9:20] Okay.
[9:20] They hear the committees, and the committees give it to the candidates.
[9:22] It's the same fact.
[9:22] It's the same fact.
[9:22] It's the same fact.
[9:23] It's the same fact.
[9:30] The other story tomorrow is on the CIA's activities, trying to beat up Yandex and IT&T and other companies.
[9:56] Why wouldn't IT&T do their best to keep this under control?
[9:57] I think they will.
[9:58] And save their best for them to control them.
[9:59] It's not in the interest of an international company.
[10:01] He's aware that there are less, there are more sensitive people that can't take it, you know.
[10:38] You know, it's out there.
[10:59] If you know Jackson won't put out his list, I'll keep us on a big list.
[11:13] I'm thinking, or unless I want to, because the CPI was coming out Wednesday night, and it's coming out Thursday.
[11:37] I'm going to get rid of that thousand for this week.
[11:38] I'm going to get rid of it.
[11:38] I'm going to get rid of it.
[11:39] I'm going to get rid of it.
[11:39] I'm going to get rid of it.
[11:42] We're better than the rest of them.
[12:11] Bring in that Friday night.
[12:13] I'll say that I've been to Omaha a couple of days.
[12:36] I'll tell them that we prefer that in the standpoint of making our story.
[12:37] And I'll say it in my press conference this morning, this Monday, and I'll report it Friday.
[12:39] And we'll get Friday clear, and then we'll try to do it Tuesday, Thursday, and then I'll do it over the past few days.
[12:42] It would be hard to agree on Thursday, I can't.
[12:43] So you go to Keen Escape,
[12:45] I'd already thought of that.
[13:09] I can go Friday and stay Monday, but I can't do that.
[13:32] We got that before the time he said it, he wasn't looking for it.
[13:33] I know that.
[13:34] I'm wondering.
[13:34] Mr. President, I'd be great if you won't do it.
[13:35] If I ordered, just burst out laughing, and he said, I have a writing, the President's own handwriting, and I don't have to go.
[13:37] I said, and then he laughed, and he said, if the President orders you to go, I'll do it.
[13:40] He said exactly what I needed to do.
[13:59] He tried to explain.
[14:00] Yeah.
[14:00] He said, let me.
[14:00] He said, I will do it.
[14:01] I just would like to express my view and ask you to go back.
[14:03] He doesn't think either should do it.
[14:04] He doesn't think either should do it.
[14:04] He thinks it's a loser.
[14:05] We make a mistake by playing soft with those people.
[14:06] We have no friends there.
[14:06] We should be tough with them rather than toward them.
[14:07] He says, if
[14:08] Both of you don't go.
[14:28] He thinks he should make a statement saying that the reason you're not going has nothing to do with when it's lit.
[14:30] The reason he's not going has nothing to do with all the fuss going on just because he's not able to tell us.
[14:33] What does that mean?
[14:33] You're always talking to the host.
[14:34] The other way.
[14:34] The administration has to say, I want to let you know first.
[14:35] I want to let you know everything.
[14:39] Although it only looks bad, there was a couple hundred feet on it.
[15:03] Fifteen hundred feet.
[15:03] Five.
[15:04] Five.
[15:04] Is that all of it?
[15:04] Boy, it's a big stacker.
[15:05] I always have to look at it.
[15:05] That's right.
[15:05] I just didn't think it was going to end up like that.
[15:07] I don't know.
[15:07] Who's the idea?
[15:07] I don't know.
[15:07] Well, I said, I put it directly to him.
[15:08] I said, okay.
[15:09] Good.
[15:09] I cited the argument, I said Dick Wilson is another of the people of our, on our side of the friends.
[15:24] He's a friend of yours.
[15:25] No, I didn't make that point.
[15:25] I was talking about Dick Wilson.
[15:27] And they thought that we were selling out to the radicals, and they thought we were selling out to the radicals by natural means.
[15:48] But this year, the opposition to the Red Irish and the radicals left, and they said we should back down under their storm, which is what we were doing.
[15:51] And that it's undercutting, in a sense, the guys like the Dave Wilsons and Jerry Greens, and people like that, who really are our friends.
[15:54] Russell O'Donnell, Terry Russell O'Donnell, and Edgar Allan Poe, and people like that.
[15:58] So I said, given that argument, the president wasn't planning to go, and you weren't planning to go.
[16:22] The question really was whether you should.
[16:23] And I said, if the decision is that one of you does have to go, do you feel it's better for you to go or for the president to go?
[16:26] He said, I think it's a loser either way.
[16:28] He couldn't bring himself to say, you should do it.
[16:52] I don't know.
[16:53] And then he came back to me and he said, I do have this California thing, but I can't do that.
[16:54] I don't know.
[16:55] I don't know.
[16:55] I don't know.
[16:55] I don't know.
[16:56] I don't know.
[16:56] I don't know.
[16:56] I don't know.
[16:56] I don't know.
[17:00] I think it's the best client for the people that are punching him.
[17:28] He's leaving or doesn't think he should go?
[17:29] What do you think about that?
[17:32] I think he would be swayed by the Dick Wilson argument that if you don't go at it, someone should.
[17:52] Because everybody doesn't think I should go.
[17:53] He really doesn't.
[17:55] Carl.
[17:55] All we have is a life story, his response to that one.
[17:56] Because that's not the White House justice.
[17:57] I'm telling you, the White House
[17:58] only has hit the point of your preference of inventing stuff, right?
[18:19] Because, you know, the list of your guys is really long.
[18:20] Now, we should never have gone to San Diego.
[18:21] I had a hunch that it would go a long way, so I didn't really want to assist, but I'm wondering if it's going to go there.
[18:24] What are you talking about?
[18:24] You know, you had to be a gentleman that got back to your contribution.
[18:26] That's the whole framework.
[18:31] That's the key thing.
[18:34] A $2,000 case for a $100,000 contribution to the state of San Diego.
[18:43] That's the thing.
[18:43] That's the thing.
[18:44] So Russell Long said the other night, he says there is no center on that grade.
[18:52] There hasn't even an iBuda of the thought that there is any connection between that convention contribution and the ITT study.
[18:55] That includes Kennedy, Tunney, and Biden.
[18:59] I don't know.
[19:02] Yes, sir.
[19:31] They asked one question on the President feels when people are trafficking drugs and destroying lives, the issue will be maximum death.
[19:57] That's what he, I don't know, that's what he said about the .
[19:58] And then he reported on the .
[19:59] The only thing I've got on life is, I guess you won't have a comment on life.
[20:24] They kind of like, you know, expect it won't be done on us.
[20:26] But they actually think it's a good story.
[20:26] The last president.
[20:29] He doesn't want to go.
[20:48] He doesn't want to be there unless she's going to be there when he gets back.
[20:53] He feels very strongly about it.
[20:55] He will go if I order him to question if she doesn't want to go.
[20:56] I just have a view that, listen, every woman, virtually every woman in the world, they have a view of it.
[21:00] put their name on that petition.
[21:14] And I'm sure they're aware of that.
[21:17] What does the petition do?
[21:17] Don't tell us.
[21:18] Please don't tell us.
[21:18] Don't go.
[21:18] No, no, no, no, no.
[21:19] It isn't directed at the president.
[21:19] It's directed at a person who would be invited.
[21:20] And he invited me.
[21:21] Well, that means maybe
[21:27] All they might need is to wipe out the gridiron on the ground that discriminates against women.
[21:50] That's the sentiment I would have.
[21:51] I wouldn't be here to do the gridiron, which I do, but I would be willing to do it.
[21:53] I think I will.
[21:53] I said I wasn't going to go to any of those things.
[21:54] I would.
[21:54] I'm sure you would go.
[21:55] Absolutely.
[21:57] It's a devil.
[22:20] Call Rogers.
[22:20] The vice president.
[22:20] It's an unfathomable date in California.
[22:21] They do go.
[22:24] Or what the hell is he going to do?
[22:36] Should the president change his mind and go somewhere?
[22:38] He's got very little PR to do.
[22:38] Okay.
[22:38] Change it back to one.
[22:57] very hard line on this drug thing.
[23:05] We're not going to go for marijuana.
[23:14] We're not going to go for the given heroin and all that sort of thing.
[23:20] That's not a fact I didn't hear.
[23:20] I was asked about heroin.
[23:21] I said, no, it's disgusting.
[23:21] I said, Dr. Jaffee, the president's expert on this, indicated that the consensus among those who know, who the research is, that that's simply not the way to go.
[23:25] That's a good thing.
[23:27] The fellow I was thinking about earlier, I said Charles versus Paul.
[23:49] Paul Haley.
[23:49] Right.
[23:49] Is he an anchor of the ground?
[23:50] No.
[23:50] How about next year?
[23:50] Actually, let's go.
[23:52] Do you think it's going to irritate him any more?
[23:53] Well, it would irritate him.
[23:53] I think it would.
[23:54] I think what Mrs. Nixon is also there.
[24:02] Well, I think what they're thinking about is that it's probably, you know, women are so damn hard to deal with.
[24:15] I think what they're thinking is, if you go, they don't have to fend off that crap that comes from women, and I would suspect that would be the case.
[24:18] My view is,
[24:20] So you do not think I should go.
[24:33] My view is you should be out of town and the vice president should go.
[24:45] He feels fine, he should go.
[24:46] Why do you think he should go?
[24:47] Because you cover all the bases.
[24:47] The grid army's not in there.
[24:48] They know you did it for labor.
[24:49] And they understand why you're leaving.
[24:50] You did it for the first time.
[24:59] You did it three times.
[25:31] Well, why don't you check that for us?
[25:39] All right, that's all right.
[25:40] We're here to shoot.
[25:41] And here to check here to find if it's made with earth or something.
[25:52] Well, it's not made with earth or something.
[25:54] So much of what I do is made with earth.
[25:54] Well, they know that our roof is down.
[26:00] ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
[26:32] I think we'll let Skelly go off and make a few regional appearances, you know, about China.
[26:54] I think you should, too.
[26:54] You were there at the story trip.
[26:55] We want to keep that up at the center of the market.
[26:57] and maybe we could do television.
[27:11] That would be great.
[27:11] What about yourself?
[27:15] Why don't you do some of it?
[27:15] I've done some.
[27:16] Why don't you do some more?
[27:16] Matter of fact, it's amazing, I think, too, that Halloween could be something.
[27:18] I mean, what the hell, that couple might even, you know, talk a little about it.
[27:20] Who else?
[27:21] The group that we have.
[27:21] The Rockers, others.
[27:21] The Chasins and the Rockers.
[27:23] We'll let Chapin go out and we'll see if he's got any speeches.
[27:38] No speeches, but he did tell us he had an interview or something.
[27:41] All right.
[27:41] Well, I love Chapin.
[27:48] But Scali would be good.
[27:48] Yeah, because he's got the, he loves it.
[27:49] He can get out there and he's really, really good.
[27:50] The story of Frank, Frank, Frank, all that kind of stuff.
[27:51] Well, let's take this one.
[27:52] I always thought about you over here.
[27:59] .
[28:27] .
[28:27] .
[28:27] .
[28:27] .
[28:28] No, no, Henry, why don't you go?
[28:52] Oh, he does?
[28:53] Oh, he does.
[28:53] He loves you.
[28:53] Oh, Henry.
[28:53] Why not just?
[28:59] So the old, little, the flat rockers ain't there.
[29:09] He'd find it, he'd arrest it.
[29:13] Henry, you know, he was a big, he was a big scum.
[29:15] I mean, he could speak for eight or ten minutes at the end and talk to the other bastards.
[29:23] He says, you heard it, he doesn't want to talk about it.
[29:29] Yes, quite a, quite a, my thought is still to do the, uh, press the 30, one negative 30, the CPI, it would probably be bad because of the food prices.
[29:53] But what the hell, you know, I guess one question on that.
[29:54] And then talk about the optimism about the economy.
[29:55] It's going to be about the balance.
[29:56] Is it a positive or a negative?
[29:57] your response to that comment here's where it's going right
[30:26] Good morning.
[30:52] Good morning.
[30:52] Good morning.
[30:52] Good morning.
[30:52] Good morning.
[30:53] Good morning.
[30:55] They stand feet up, though.
[31:17] No, I agree.
[31:17] I don't know.
[31:18] They stand feet up.
[31:18] Well, they always expect to go to the free run.
[31:19] Right.
[31:19] They're not confused.
[31:19] They're going to turn one.
[31:20] They're going to start right.
[31:21] They're going to come over.
[31:21] They're going to put him on the ground.
[31:22] They have to do something.
[31:25] So you have, I think you do that around here.
[31:47] Oh, why?
[31:47] Why do I do a patient?
[31:48] How the hell can we?
[31:48] We have a dinner that night.
[31:49] We should have several hundred people or something.
[31:50] Well, I mean, this is what I, all I see.
[31:50] You know, I don't care if it bothers you or not.
[31:53] John, I was, Ron was telling me that when I put up the impression that we were going to be in the Japanese Senate, I think that probably will not work tomorrow.
[32:19] We've got to stay together.
[32:19] We've got to stay together.
[32:20] We've got to stay together.
[32:21] We've got to stay together.
[32:29] Yeah, I can see there is a problem.
[32:41] I know you can't use a gynecologist.
[32:57] He keeps this drug thing moving along, and they're, you know, getting it in here.
[33:16] Apparently, they have, you know, people are, you know, being the same, but, you know, I'm not, I'm certainly not the impressionist.
[33:19] I don't have a lot to do about that, but they're just going to say, like, it's a very hard line.
[33:20] Not that nice.
[33:27] Where does he want to go?
[33:29] Is he going to be in Hawaii?
[33:30] He said, I was just talking to Adele about how he prefers to be out of the country.
[33:38] All right.
[33:40] What's his judgment?
[33:41] What's his advice?
[33:42] His judgment is, number one, he feels very strongly the president should not go.
[33:49] Number two, first of all, he really thinks the vice president should go.
[33:54] And then he said, but if the vice president doesn't go, if neither the president or the vice president go, then either Connolly or Rogers should be there to respond.
[34:06] And he says, I think Connolly would be much better.
[34:10] Then he said, it's very important, I think,
[34:13] that it not appear to be an administration boycott.
[34:24] And you can't get too far down the ladder of officials.
[34:30] Well, I just had an idea.
[34:32] Well, he just had an idea, too.
[34:33] I should have said that.
[34:34] No, really?
[34:36] I'm not sure.
[34:36] It's not publicized.
[34:37] He said one thing.
[34:37] It would probably be a person's decision.
[34:38] I think it would be especially vicious this year.
[34:39] I think those who are very heavily on the ID&T thing, which would be just a...
[34:43] It's a very bad thing for you to sit there and sit there and say, well, they're kidding you about China or, you know, stratosphere.
[35:02] They've never done anything with fishes in all the years.
[35:03] And he was saying to the Vice President, and I sat there last year, and specialists who were miserable, and it was a dull, long, boring, tasteful evening.
[35:10] Well, he said, you know who should respond?
[35:27] And then he said, I don't know who should be there.
[35:33] Chief Justice should respond.
[35:33] First of all, he would like to.
[35:35] Secondly, he is plenty high-ranking.
[35:35] And he goes to those things.
[35:36] He should respond, and he should have at least five or six other cabinet officers there.
[35:38] But he ain't gone.
[35:38] And he said, but not me.
[35:39] But...
[35:40] I'd like much not to be there.
[35:51] How about the Chief Justice Donaldson?
[35:55] And he's not administration.
[35:57] That's the difference.
[35:59] I don't know why it's the difference.
[36:00] The closest to the President of the United States is the Chief Executive.
[36:02] Why not the Chief Judicial?
[36:03] Very small.
[36:03] Well, the main thing is that he is next to the Vice President, the ranking man, too.
[36:06] He's the next ranking man in protocol.
[36:08] No speakers.
[36:09] That's not the Chief Justice, the way they argue about these issues.
[36:36] The Chief Justice, is that how you get there?
[36:37] No, it really hasn't.
[36:37] The Chief Justice is in the Supreme Court.
[36:43] The best person who doesn't go to the mall is my dad.
[37:00] I'm not sure he should go.
[37:01] His driver said he shouldn't go.
[37:01] He first said, I really think that he should go.
[37:02] I don't think there is a reason for that.
[37:03] I don't think there is a reason for that.
[37:04] That doesn't answer the question of who's the highest ranking person.
[37:05] The one that has a difference is who's the highest ranking person.
[37:12] I think he's right.
[37:27] I think he's right for the reason that it's wrong.
[37:32] No, he's in the wrong.
[37:34] My reason for not wanting it is the fact that the pregnancy, the women don't want to do it, I must say.
[37:39] Because I don't think it's worth buying that trouble with them.
[37:42] And it isn't going to help us get Bill what Bill's concerned about, as he would be, as he'd be concerned about himself, about the person.
[37:51] I've heard worse ones than I'll hear this time.
[37:57] That's on that part.
[37:59] That's what I do.
[38:02] It's not a dance.
[38:04] But if Father's angry, too, he's extremely angry.
[38:06] He just can't take it.
[38:06] What the hell?
[38:06] I could really bother Bill.
[38:07] Oh, Bill?
[38:08] Oh, sure.
[38:08] He was so sensitive.
[38:22] He'd never been under attack.
[38:23] This is one of those cases where you gain nothing by not going.
[38:28] I would tell you this.
[38:29] You will not lose that damn thing by not going.
[38:30] He said that by not going.
[38:31] He won't lose anything.
[38:32] And you don't gain anything by not going.
[38:33] And you gain nothing by not going.
[38:34] It's just a loop.
[38:39] A few guys were standing around the bar over there.
[38:45] All right, I haven't heard of him, no.
[38:47] Oh, yeah, we... Well, we never say.
[38:48] He probably came down and said he had his boat seat towed.
[38:51] Yeah.
[38:51] Oh, yes.
[38:51] You remember when we didn't go out to the stand at Bohemian Grove?
[38:58] Yeah.
[38:59] All right, well, didn't that snap both ways, too, when you decided to go?
[39:03] But on the other hand, it didn't do any harm not to go.
[39:16] Some were disappointed, so we all care.
[39:20] It's off the record.
[39:26] Let's leave it this way.
[39:31] I don't think that we can really
[39:36] What the hell is the difference?
[39:58] The other administration people should come.
[40:00] And many cabinet officers can.
[40:00] So somebody should get busy on that.
[40:01] And most of them won't.
[40:01] Most of them won't.
[40:02] That's fine.
[40:02] The other cabinet makes a joke about it.
[40:03] Other people, other cabinet people.
[40:04] Kissinger's gone.
[40:04] I personally think he's the best one to respond to today.
[40:05] Why not?
[40:09] I'm very proud of Heather here again than anybody else.
[40:29] More than happy to be a part of the whole waterway back to your district.
[40:30] You can be proud of yourself if you do it.
[40:31] You give us a response.
[40:32] You can be proud of yourself if you do it.
[40:33] But I think the best way you can be proud of yourself is to go through the response.
[40:34] You've got to be a producer.
[40:35] Did he come?
[40:55] I don't know.
[40:56] I don't know.
[40:57] I don't know.
[41:00] I don't know.
[41:00] I don't know.
[41:01] I don't know.
[41:01] Humphrey's trying to get out of there now.
[41:06] Who is he going to use?
[41:23] Besides that, I don't know.
[41:24] You just tell him, oh, I just can't make it.
[41:26] I don't know what the hell I'm going to do.
[41:33] I'm going to go back to John.
[41:33] I'm going to go back to John.
[41:36] I go there all the time.
[41:58] The weakest one.
[41:58] It's weak in there.
[42:04] Okay, I will be in Florida, and Father will not go to Florida this weekend.
[42:29] Fair enough.
[42:29] Well, we're going to be awfully busy.
[42:31] I've got to see that.
[42:32] What is this?
[42:32] What is this?
[42:32] Oh, yes.
[42:37] Anyway, I don't think, the fact that you're, Mr. President, the fact that you're here over Easter, I can't make that up because people have passed out or not seen you.
[42:55] In other words, what I've decided to do is to ask on whether or not you're here this weekend if you're going to go to Egypt.
[43:00] It really doesn't matter.
[43:00] Well, I'm going to be here over Easter.
[43:02] Well, that's what I mean.
[43:03] In other words, you could go this weekend and go to Egypt.
[43:06] it would be the same as if you wouldn't do it this weekend.
[43:14] It wouldn't matter.
[43:19] I see, well.
[43:20] In other words, because that would be, by the time.
[43:26] Well, anyway, I may not be able to get there in a little bit.
[43:28] If things don't work out, then we'll see.
[43:29] The bottom point was that you should not do what you want to.
[43:30] Well, then we'll decide that I can't go, and we've got a telephone call tomorrow, and I just can't make it.
[43:33] Fair enough.
[43:33] Yes, sir.
[43:33] It doesn't work out.
[43:34] No.
[43:35] Of course, I've never told, I have never told the owner of the watch.
[43:47] Yeah, that's right.
[43:47] He is the inspector.
[43:50] Right.
[43:50] So we're right on an egg, is that it?
[43:52] And then say, now let's move.
[43:52] And there ain't no egg, is there?
[43:53] Yeah.
[43:53] He's turned it down already.
[43:54] Well, I'll call Hector and I'll say, look, we did everything.
[43:55] The device wasn't even driving, it should have just skidded.
[43:57] So, we just can't work it out.
[44:06] I don't understand why she asked, when she occurred to be the chief justice by no election, chief justice.
[44:14] It would be an unusual situation.
[44:16] It's the year of the court.
[44:17] They probably had to skip the court.
[44:18] It would be funny if he'd love to do it.
[44:19] He didn't respond to the administration.
[44:20] That is what it is.
[44:20] Since our administration... And the Democrat has already...
[44:22] Probably the Democrat would have spoken.
[44:23] Chief Justice...
[44:23] This is a response to the toast of the President.
[44:24] A response to the toast of the President to the Chief Justice of the United States.
[44:27] What he ought to do then, if Berger doesn't, is he ought to do a very short, very serious response.
[44:39] It's very hard to tell him to be short.
[44:41] He ought to do it like a great man, a president.
[44:44] He won't do that.
[44:44] Yes, he might.
[44:45] Berger, George.
[44:47] I'll mention that.
[44:56] And so that way I can't carry around with me to Florida.
[45:13] He's got to go his own place.
[45:14] He doesn't want to do this.
[45:14] He's going to have to.
[45:15] And he's going to go to California.
[45:16] Well, I'm not going to California.
[45:16] That's for sure.
[45:17] I'm going to go out there right now.
[45:17] And the other problem is to go to Florida, that would be him.
[45:19] He's got to come back Sunday night.
[45:20] Because?
[45:20] Because the violent people want to treat me this way.
[45:29] Before Thursday night, you'd have Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
[45:37] Unless you have a press conference.
[45:38] That was funny.
[45:39] But yeah, you're still good.
[45:39] 7.30 now, isn't it?
[45:40] Press conference would be such good.
[45:42] It's a matter of time.
[45:42] 7.30, I'd just take off.
[45:43] Friday, Saturday, Sunday, come back up Sunday.
[45:51] Friday, Saturday, come back up Sunday night.
[45:52] Could do the same.
[45:52] Yeah.
[45:52] Check this week.
[45:53] Go to earlier.
[45:53] So who is it?
[45:58] You said I had a Marshall Green.
[46:02] Did you do that?
[46:06] You had a press conference.
[46:06] You don't need an office press conference.
[46:09] Did Marshall Green write afterwards?
[46:09] Whenever you can go to Florida right after the press conference, it's perfect time to go.
[46:12] Did he go down there writing that, you know, on the news thing, and then all he did was generate that for next week?
[46:18] Yeah, I was thinking that.
[46:19] The new Marshall Green immediately after the press conference.
[46:21] Is that correct?
[46:22] Well, the trouble is, some of them are supposed to take an hour.
[46:41] They don't.
[46:41] Most of them take ten hours.
[46:42] For sure.
[46:42] You can come to court.
[46:42] How would that be?
[46:43] You can come down to court.
[46:43] It's about a Friday morning.
[46:44] You can go to court, too.
[46:44] Yeah.
[46:44] So they give us a day before they... Before you come down on here.
[46:50] i don't want bill rogers to go down there and have him on my hands see i don't i just can't have somebody on my hands
[47:21] I want to be a great reporter.
[47:30] He wants to go out to the seat of the White House press corps.
[47:34] Rogers doesn't.
[47:35] Rogers and Green have to, which is a bad idea, because they're going to put Green on the prowess, which is... You shouldn't go to the White House press corps.
[47:42] Because they're trying to divide in from this journey.
[47:50] You go immediately to Taiwan.
[47:55] The only thing you put on the competition paper is Taiwan.
[47:57] Well, maybe we ought to pull green.
[48:03] I just don't want a bill on my hands.
[48:06] I'm sure they can't buy it.
[48:12] He wants to go out and say something.
[48:20] Do it.
[48:21] Do it here, after the press conference, and that solves the problem.
[48:26] And you don't take Roger's way to it.
[48:28] And you don't do anything, because it's too, you know, you've had the press conference, you can't go out and do a briefing in the March of June after a press conference.
[48:34] Roger's trotted in the March of June on Thursday afternoon, after your press conference, sit through all that, and get on your plane, and go away to Florida.
[48:39] That's the cleanest thing.
[48:56] And then you don't have to screw around with him on the airplane.
[48:58] You don't.
[49:01] You're free.
[49:01] You can get out of here.
[49:01] Steve knows just that you had asked about why the signing ceremony was in the East.
[49:03] The signing ceremony was in the East Coast.
[49:04] And it's because they would have done it normally in the same dining room.
[49:06] They got 110 people.
[49:06] But because of setting up for the dinner.
[49:09] Who the hell invited us to stop that thing?
[49:23] Oh, a huge mob of people.
[49:23] Everybody concerned with drugs.
[49:26] Put it in some room over here.
[49:27] Put it in the entry room or something.
[49:28] I don't think you ought to put it in the White House.
[49:30] The staff over there, you know, they've got the flowers out, they've got the trees out, they've got everything.
[49:33] They said there isn't any problem.
[49:36] That's why they did it.
[49:39] I'll see if we can do it.
[49:54] Oh, hell, what time, what time?
[50:03] 1215.
[50:04] Well, you're never going to make 1215.
[50:04] Why?
[50:04] You can't see the third group.
[50:05] It's the only time I'm seeing it.
[50:06] What time is it getting in?
[50:06] 10 or 10.30?
[50:07] 1230.
[50:07] Well, I figured 1230.
[50:07] I'll never make it before 1230.
[50:13] They're not going to get one iota of our coverage of this plan.
[50:27] We're not even going to be there in the midday in the whole office.
[50:30] That's right, but this, the reason perhaps all the people is because this is one where we had a lot of people fight for, you know, joining in and do an animus thing.
[50:47] They wanted to show all of our involvement and support.
[50:50] And this is one we haven't had with the British, one we haven't had with the Blacks, one we haven't had with any of them.
[50:53] All the other people, maybe this time or something, I don't know.
[50:55] We just don't meet with them.
[50:55] We've got to keep trying.
[50:56] I don't know.
[51:00] Rockers feel that way.
[51:15] Cigarettes feel that way.
[51:21] And so that's, I just get myself out of it.
[51:23] But I don't think I ought to tell Wagner to do it.
[51:24] You know, just feel strongly about it.
[51:25] And God damn it, he's got right to the sensitivities.
[51:26] He, of course, is doing it for the right reasons.
[51:27] I mean, he's just sending it.
[51:28] Isn't that it?
[51:28] No, he hates the press.
[51:34] ... ... ... ...
[52:00] on the way back from Moscow.
[52:08] I obviously you don't want to do.
[52:11] I want to screw up.
[52:12] I'll tell you what.
[52:12] You call back and say, look,
[52:15] But I saw this, that I'm going to Iran, and I can't afford to go.
[52:35] And I'm discussing this with my students, and I can't afford to go.
[52:36] I'm discussing this with my friends, and I can't afford to go.
[52:38] And I can't afford to go.
[52:47] Yeah.