Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 324 › Conversation 324-014

Nixon, Bull & Butterfield on Nihat Erim and 1972 Election

Wednesday, March 22, 1972 · 10:05 AM–11:01 AM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 9 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Butterfield, Alexander P.; Sanchez, ManoloConversation324-014 on Tape 324 (tape position 01:27:39–01:37:21)StartWednesday, March 22, 1972 at 10:05 AMEndWednesday, March 22, 1972 at 11:01 AMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 324-014 ↗

President Nixon spent this session in the Old Executive Office Building dictating a series of personal memoranda and reflecting on contemporary political affairs. Accompanied briefly by aides Stephen Bull, Alexander Butterfield, and Manolo Sanchez, Nixon reviewed briefing materials regarding international figures such as Turkish Prime Minister Nihat Erim and discussed his broader 1972 election prospects. The President utilized the time to document his thoughts on global leadership, comparisons to past administrations, and his personal views on national political challenges.

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This is Wednesday, 22nd of March.
The Prime Minister is very scholarly, a serious man.
Yes, they are.
I don't have a lot of information, but the law court is supposed to do it every third month.
Or with that, they intend to.
Spoken with these questions.
Right.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
All right.
We got it.
We got it.
We got it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel very warmly involved, particularly in the fact that you've been out of office and come back in.
I'm so proud of you.
I think all of us are involved in this process.
I'm proud of you.
I'm proud of you.
I'm proud of you.
I'm proud of you.
Because, like, Gaul went into the war.
And Gaul made the end of the war, now period, and all the metal clothes and all the fun.
Great harvest.
And gold.
And gold.
And gold.
And gold.
And gold.
See us at the house.
Oh, uh, well, look, I have a holiday.
Each year, I have a holiday.
Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh.
The suspect came through the line.
He said I had just come to the scene of the murder.
The suspect came through the line.
He said I had just come to the scene of the murder.
The suspect came through the line.
He said I had just come to the scene of the murder.
The suspect came through the line.
He said I had just come to the scene of the murder.
Oh, wait.
The, uh, I wasn't pressed any time through there, none of the other factors.
... ... ... ...
... ... ... ... ... ...
Thank you.
I was supposed to go to a grocery store on the other side of town, and I had a great party.
I had a great party.
I had a great party.
I had a great party.
I had a great party.
I had a great party.
I had a great party.
I had a great party.
I had a great party.
in a country where, since we were born, it was carried away, and gone, and that's great opportunity for the world to see.
So a lot of time I've been studying about the types of things that we can do to make sure that we don't feel like our voices are made up because of this constant type of reaction from the people.
So I'm very pleased to be able to talk about this today.

On March 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:05 am and 11:01 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 324-014 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 324-14

Date: March 22, 1972
Time: Unknown between 10:05 am and 11:01 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President dictated a memorandum for the file.

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/11/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[324-014-w001]
[Duration: 1m 12s]

       Nihat Erim
              -Intelligence
              -Demeanor
              -Meeting with the President
              -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
                       -Gift [?]
              -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] trip

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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:05 am.

     Briefing book

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:10 am.

The President resumed dictating.

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/11/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[324-014-w002]
[Duration: 30s]

     Criticism
           -California liberals

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The President talked with Alexander P. Butterfield between 10:10 am and 10:11 am.

[Conversation No. 324-14A]

[See Conversation No. 21-129]

[End of telephone conversation]

Manolo Sanchez [?] entered at an unknown time after 10:11 am.

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/11/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[314-014-w003]
[Duration: 6m 56s]

     Request
         -Coffee

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:01 am.

The President resumed dictating.

       1972 election
              -Nihat Erim
              -Georges J. R. Pompidou
              -The President's prospects
                     -Charles A. J. M. de Gaulle

       Dwight D. Eisenhower

       Lyndon B. Johnson

       Robert S. McNamara

       Lloyd M. Bentsen, Jr.

       John G. Tower
       Julie Nixon Eisenhower

       Nelson A. Rockefeller
              -Unknown person

       Dinner

       John N. Mitchell

       Democrats

       George H. W. Bush

       US
                -Leadership

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  • 021-129 10:10 AM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield talked on the telephone from 10:10 am to 10:11 am.

Conversation 324-014, March 22, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/324-014 (accessed October 3, 2026).