{"conversationCode":"324-014","tapeNumber":324,"conversationNumber":14,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-324-014","startDateTime":"1972-03-22T15:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-22T16:01:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Mar-1972","startTime":"10:05 AM","endDate":"22-Mar-1972","endTime":"11:01 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Butterfield, Alexander P.; Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On March 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:05 am and 11:01 am. 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(Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n                       -Gift [?]\n              -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] trip\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nStephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:05 am.\n\n     Briefing book\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:10 am.\n\nThe President resumed dictating.\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/11/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n\f[324-014-w002]\n[Duration: 30s]\n\n     Criticism\n           -California liberals\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nThe President talked with Alexander P. Butterfield between 10:10 am and 10:11 am.\n\n[Conversation No. 324-14A]\n\n[See Conversation No. 21-129]\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\nManolo Sanchez [?] entered at an unknown time after 10:11 am.\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/11/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[314-014-w003]\n[Duration: 6m 56s]\n\n     Request\n         -Coffee\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 11:01 am.\n\nThe President resumed dictating.\n\n       1972 election\n              -Nihat Erim\n              -Georges J. R. Pompidou\n              -The President's prospects\n                     -Charles A. J. M. de Gaulle\n\n       Dwight D. Eisenhower\n\n       Lyndon B. Johnson\n\n       Robert S. McNamara\n\n       Lloyd M. Bentsen, Jr.\n\n       John G. Tower\n\f       Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n\n       Nelson A. Rockefeller\n              -Unknown person\n\n       Dinner\n\n       John N. Mitchell\n\n       Democrats\n\n       George H. W. Bush\n\n       US\n                -Leadership\n\n******************************************************************************","filename":["324-014.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:27:39","tapeEnd":"01:37:21","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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Accompanied briefly by aides Stephen Bull, Alexander Butterfield, and Manolo Sanchez, Nixon reviewed briefing materials regarding international figures such as Turkish Prime Minister Nihat Erim and discussed his broader 1972 election prospects. 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