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I don't know how to sort of say what the news guy had to say.

I'm doing that today to be with your agent.

So, thanks for giving me a little bit of time to tell us to get the first one.

I'm sure you should use the pre-court.

Is there any certain defense in the court that you would never call me to do that?

I did call the director, but he didn't call to suggest that you were going to come to solicit his ID.

Yeah.

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You've got two books here, but I just want to separate them.

No, Sapphire was planning to yesterday.

He didn't get the book until midnight, so he didn't get it done.

So he's done it now.

So you now have Sapphire's notes with you now.

That would be very helpful, but it may or may not be right.

But I think sometimes he has ideas.

Well, Richie, who are we going to have?

When he came in this morning, he was going to have the Sapphire.

He's been paired with the book before.

I don't know why he didn't have the depth in it.

It was really more helpful because it was sharper to the point.

It didn't go like this sometimes.

It was rather pervious.

This worked out fine.

This is working.

Pat knows he's doing it.

We didn't try it.

But he's not going to tell Pat.

We might try it.

Boiling them down and getting the key line.

It's a big work.

It could have been another medicine put up with.

Sure.

It's going to be an enormous job.

I'm sure.

I'm ready.

So that's if it was a tie, I'd probably be getting the bill.

So that's why I'm trying to ensure that it's double up.

All right.

I think it's a good idea for the president to be involved in this goddamn political mess.

And I'm not going to do it.

I think it's a good time to make a point.

I believe that any point you make now is going to have no effect anyway.

I think Ron and I were talking about this.

I was wondering if they do an action tunnel.

I can't remember.

I don't know if it's true.

The radio idea of this is that

Both of us feel, thinking about it, that it's not a good idea.

So I'm going to go over to the radio for the reason.

It's only because earlier when we did it, I don't know if it makes sense.

Well, here's the problem.

The radio thing doesn't make a lot of difference except that your reason for doing the in-office press conference is to clean up some brush that you don't want to make a big thing out of the radio.

I even put it on radio.

But the other side of the reason.

You're giving the television people an opportunity to really screw you.

You haven't really thought through.

Sure.

They'll take the voice.

They put a picture of you, an old picture or any picture of you, on the screen in front of the radio.

That's the worst question.

It's just an investment.

They'll put a solid picture on your shirt.

Sure.

or, you know, a shock related to something that, uh, good.

I'm delighted that we don't have to fart around with that goddamn microphone.

I don't like any of them at all.

In thinking about it, I think we don't need to be worth what potential coverage we got.

The name of the game is Hollywood.

If you want live coverage, you should do it on television.

If you don't want live coverage, don't give them any live coverage.

Make them write it.

That's better.

Very good, very good.

Here's still your view that we should go for the live coverage.

Yeah, I wonder how valid that is.

You know, that's what we think about.

If you look at the readings, and then you look at what they ask you, and I just wonder if the questions are going to be on China and Russia and, you know, Ireland and, you know, Germany.

I'm going to get one on T.T.

obviously.

Germany, I've got some problems with that.

And busking.

You see the reason is busking is bad.

No, no, no.

I mean, if you get a look, you'll get some, because basically you'll get into that because they're so emotionally involved in ITT because they want to embarrass us.

But I think she's got as good an outfit on television as she did in the office, which is still up there.

There's obviously a lot of that.

I should be able to throw a little bit out there.

I don't know what he's got for an interview.

He's got a great interview.

They've put the earrings this morning.

And everyone out this weekend is going to be here.

And I hope you don't hear anything.

That's the one document that we've got now indicating the IDC and government involvement in the Indian joint elections and the overthrow of the military coup.

And that came from a guy on Nari.

He's got the public, he's got the Congress, he's got Andrews office, and all the stuff that Andrews office had in that building.

You see, the Henry's office is like a zoo.

Only as it turned out, where else do we come back to?

I don't screw around like that.

About a year ago, a doctor came up to me and said, I'm going to take you to the chile.

He said, I'm just going to take you to the chile.

A lot of documents about it, and you have to see it, and I'm going to show you.

I'm going to show you how you make it.

I'm going to show you.

I don't think they did.

I don't think they did either.

As I recall about this, when most of that was going on, it was pretty closely, what was the CIA offering?

It was by the CIA, but the office here is not within the state government.

On this Anderson stuff, on the IT&T stuff, he's now, you know, he won't pay for the junk and stuff.

Where would those have come from?

Does it go beyond IT&T's involvement?

That's the ancient column.

I mean, it's so big.

You've probably seen a lot of things this morning.

There's a lot of stuff today.

It's sort of not in its column, but it has documents.

Okay.

I went through your office.

But my team would need to cover an IT&T paper job.

Well now, how in the hell would they, how would they get a witness?

How would Dita Beard know about such a thing as that?

She wouldn't know.

There must be somebody else in IT&T, but this would have to be at a hell of a high level, wouldn't it?

Yeah, although, that has to be confidential stuff.

What do you mean, somebody to grapple the goddamn files, you know?

Grapple the files for her?

See, he said, there's no truth in the...

Again, it's an insinuation, but there hasn't been, there wasn't any, actually, in fact, there wasn't any activity involved except that IT&T, because of their business interest, was offering money to help them out.

And the CIA did listen to them, as they do.

People said they want to talk, but they did not.

There was no concerted work, no planned workout with IT&T or Executives.

So, but the point is, they were making Washington contracts, so it may be that they're watching the law of history, and that may be why they shredded this stuff, and maybe after, you know, they shredded this kind of stuff.

Anderson made the point that these documents that he had are some of the material that wasn't shredded, that I can't be missing.

I have a live patient.

I read the news.

Pat Brown, of all people.

For Christ's sake, at least you owe us Pat Brown, one of his major angels.

Has anybody ever brought that one?

Pat Brown's thing is on the... Oh, that's him.

Yeah.

I don't think that's an old thing.

It's just kind of lame.

It is an old story.

I mean, they're playing it that way.

Let me try to repeat what I'm going to ask you.

It's like trade-in.

It's so good and so poor.

It's bad.

It's not good.

And the reason for that is because it's according to the evidence.

It's probably not attractive.

It's bad.

It's something that you want to have.

But the other thing I'm talking about is that it's interesting.

It's good.

That's the best thing.

Boy, that's how this is to do, though, is everybody being mad.

That's the thing with the police.

They're hurting the ass on the life, and that's a blow to how they're just farting around.

They're, you know, when they're going down, he gets them, and he's like, he's like, you're right, you're right.

That's what it is.

You know, we've made it through it.

And then they're going to try to keep it alive.

They do.

They're going to have to turn it around.

I didn't know about his cranking problem for a while.

Yeah?

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I thought I set that, made that, got that point clearly on the record, which is good.

See?

Yeah, because that makes it, that puts me in the right place for us.

They've done several, apparently six, pretty good.

So out of the six, apparently a couple did pretty good.

What they've got to do is zero on one.

Well, get it nominated.

Get a man.

But Raid has been a total wipeout.

Never goes away.

Never says goodbye.

Basically.

Well done.

He did that scholastic press corps yesterday in high school.

In California.

That's

in the state of California.

That's the name we talked about, we posted it in there.

Tomorrow, in New Orleans, the National Beef Grains Association, as part of their electrical cooperative.

They all were drawing cards, Bob.

It always ends up in California and Florida, but we can't do that.

Yeah, great.

Yeah, well.

late, uh, intelligence on the meeting, but, uh, nothing played out, and, uh, George is, well, there's, you know, and, uh, I've heard nothing since the gathering, or what, uh, what, of course, I'm going to, uh, get something to go with, and, uh, I guess we'll try to stop that.

I'm not sure.

It's not sure.

I guess it wasn't true.

They didn't invite bridges, but it was fine.

So they can't tie them.

They walk out of it, they can't tie them to the home.

They don't.

We saw that he came out to swing against the bus.

I'm on the bus.

We're over Tokyo, which is a game we're also going to play.

Now we know why we made this 180 degree switch.

Headquarters, all here.

Postman, you're on the bus.

It was against both busing and the country command.

Well, he said that, he placed that on account of this.

The busing thing is probably not constitutional.

But then he's against the .

Well, that's what we're doing.

But he's far busier than me.

That's the way he did it.

I'm going to get a look at the detail of what he actually said.

He was quite a surprise to George.

George, I'm taking a long time to learn.

If you get him to do that, I'm not going to say anything.

George said he was surprised by the busking.

I said, why?

I said, that's very funny.

I don't know.

Well, there were hardly enough.

I think we got 38% yet.

What would they have done without us?

Shit.

It was just a mix of flogging and all that.

Yeah.

Terrible idea.

Terrible setback.

No, it was not handy.

Well, who was with no money, no chance, and so forth.

Apparently, well, apparently he got enough to encourage himself.

At least he's saying so.

Sixty?

Sixty.

It finally came down to about $62.38.

I think it was $63.37.

It didn't do very well.

Oh, it must be gold.

$65.

He didn't name that.

$65.

Who is this?

Low-level gold.

He didn't get half the dollars.

He didn't.

They know.

They've done that.

We've got the nomination despite getting wiped out on the blackboard.

And with the walls only at 8%.

And that's the whole point of the song.

Bobby's gonna do better than 8% of Wisconsin.

Well, that means your head's up.

That's it.

Three weeks of campaigning.

It's a small business, but raw.

It's interesting.

Now this is gonna go to people.

What they've done.

The president of Miami had the luxury of voting for us to show the other guy.

So he said, in our control, we were looking at where the ships were at this point in time.

It was very interesting.

It was men.

They were way high.

They were way out of proportion.

They were probably wrong.

The ship is back now, whereas they're about in balance.

It was a big drop in the uneducated that he created for us.

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They've dropped in the over 15,000 income, the high income.

And the uneducated, the uneducated.

No difference between Republicans, Democrats, or independents.

Even level of drop in all three groups.

A huge drop, though, among liberals.

And an increase among conservatives.

So the liberals, the liberals must be the bussingers.

The service went from 71 to 75.

The lifts went from 49 to 37.

The lifts reacted that way to China.

But then they finally get back to their part time.

The Wallace motors went up from 39 to 48.

The satellite went down.

The east didn't go down at all.

Took a 5-point drop in the country, but no drop at all.

The east was 56, before it's 56 now.

Same in the Midwest, it was 56, the state was 56.

Then the south was 66, went down to 53.

And that's the pro-bussing south and the anti-bussing south, I would guess.

But the anti-bussing because you didn't go far enough.

And you didn't cure the South.

That instant line that the Southern leaders took, that made me be cured.

With education that we're sending our teams into the South and all.

The West is down some, 55 to 48.

I wonder why the West is down.

I don't know.

But it's...

It's an odd fact, no loss in the East or the Midwest.

We gain with Wallace voters, we gain with conservatives.

No loss, no difference in the losses by age group also.

Thank you.

All right.

In the West, interestingly enough, there was also an even bigger rise in disapproval when disapproval in the West went from 29 to 39.

This thing would tend to support Benham's thesis that this is the barometer that measures the inherent event rather than the liquid thing because the...

The West may have been appealed to more or less.

The West might have been affected more by the San Diego or California situation.

The West is pushing slowly down.

This reflects...

This kind of spread, you can explain by bussing, it doesn't really relate to much of anything else.

And maybe I can't keep this up on a general eroding basis.

Except, I suspect that meant that it was not aligned.

Or aligned before, but it's just been back and forth now.

We really didn't get across the anti-bussing line strong enough.

Well, except the Wallace voters went up.

Well, conservatives went up.

You're right, you're right.

But not the South.

But I think that's because you got the...

I think, you know, that first reaction in the South, we got that, the National Vendors, you know, position.

Right around is the Southern leaders starting saying this is good.

The Southern anti-busting leaders.

Absolutely.

That's our more target.

So the Sun...

Show your own vision, watch your discourse.

Make a change.

That's the whole point.

The whole point is to make a change.

We knew what we were going to do.

Unless, unless maybe you already decided on the fourth policy.

Right.

35 35 35 35 35 35 35

Pretty close to right.

They wouldn't have been there until the Ambaron were there.

Just sight them all the way through the trail.

That's it.

That's getting them to focus on clothing decision rather than on...

There was the abstraction of the view of Cooper, Richard Mason's job as president.

It was really as strong as it was related to the most difficult deal.

We've got the benefit there, but which the person is aware and involves the president.

Don't commentate about it.

That wouldn't be the way to do it.

Somebody can sure prove this, but if you don't tell your parents about all those things, what have you done?

What you think of this?

If China was the last event before you go, they say, yeah, you did a hell of a job in China.

If IT&T was the last thing you were aware of before you go, you say, no, they've done some goddamn thing.

You know what?

One thing that showed this was Cali.

On the other hand, we found that our big events, our big launch, had no effect on the group.

The announcement of the Vietnam

Uh, the proposal did, did, because that's more of an event than just, uh, well, yes, it's a policy.

And the announcement of the controls, and all these things, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

You also want to remember we've been on television.

We were on television.

And if you've listened to the other three, they all did a very effective appearance.

But also our own shows have been absolutely.

So, nevertheless, what then drops it down?

Maybe the fact is that your level has come back.

Well, you've got to look at one that we're analyzing in the South, because I want to find out.

Because that's the biggest area.

Well, the South and the West.

The West is very...

The rest half of the country is the South and the West.

But the way they divide it, the East and Midwest is the other half.

Sure.

And...

He had no change in the east and the west.

Not at all.

No change in this chapter.

All the change was in this chapter.

And those are big enough subdivisions to be about.

Some of them look like, yeah, Jews.

You know, you went up among Jews.

But that doesn't mean he's not.

He's not enough.

He's not full enough.

I would think even when government passed that.

No way.

The situation is different.

Look at it from this perspective.

Listen, sir.

I think we're about 50% unapproval of being in this office.

with the enormous media bias that we have against Mississippi.

That's what we have to figure out.

That's what our boys are on.

We've got to get through their heads and help them to go out and work our butts off and stay there.

And I think we've got to have the Chinese and things like that just to do that, just to rise above it.

Well, and incidentally, the busing station I need help with, so I don't think it hurts.

It may in the South, but we can't tell it, period.

I don't mean to do a completely different sign.

I think that's an instant misunderstanding.

I think it's an instant misunderstanding.

And also, also in the song, I'll let you get a change in the trial.

I'll let you get a change in the trial.

And what they're saying, too, is that you're busting me.

They're not saying it was wrong.

They're just saying you left us out.

Now, they'll see that you didn't leave us out.

Well, you have to... Well, if I had gone any further... You couldn't have played to the sound, especially after the murder, right?

Well, also, you couldn't have played to the sound or gone any further in the bustling thing without breaking it off too much, basically, in the blinds.

In other words, having a... Well, you really would, you know, a feeling that, well, God, that person's, again, just walls and a white collar.

Now that's really, you know, that's a very important point.

I've got to think of that.

I can't go out there, you know, and put out the Buchanan thing.

They were trying to play that even so, but then it's pretty hard to play.

They're playing it now.

But I wasn't.

I wasn't.

I was a very reasonable person.

But if you had been, I suppose, if I had decided to make it, if it had dropped Buchanan, it would have been all right.

Jesus Christ.

I have enough of it in there to work.

You are right.

No, we've got to play it, but we've got to play it without making them fear that they don't have a friend, you know what I mean, that they have an enemy.

And that's very, very important.

And, of course, our problems are your problems.

They're problems.

They're reasons.

You know, it was unbelievable.

And I'm sure all the news magazines addressed it the way they did.

Here is Muskie, here is Brian Hero.

And they had to disarm him before they were right.

Now, after Illinois, they're saying 9,000 feet, 4,000 feet.

Oh, but it's a mixed bag.

It's a mixed bag.

If you look at it pretty carefully, there's not much of a showing.

You know what I mean?

62, 38.

He didn't give a lot.

He didn't hurt himself.

That's right.

No sloth.

He played the whole line fine.

First up Jackie's place

I'm sure John knows.

I'll never see Shaper.

I've seen him.

He does.

No, under no circumstances do we say no on all board of ministers.

No, not on this one, I don't want to.

No, no, no, there are no circumstances.

Just don't, don't, don't submit any more reports.

Also, I wanted to say that on the foreign policy stuff, the president's quite angry.

He comes to the factory and he talks about some state.

He just got me out of a personal search.

I've done it this week.

I've got to sign that damn treaty.

So now I have to make that remain in the voice of God.

I don't know what to do.

Unless there's something in it for us politically, there's nothing we can do about it.

How do I do something about it?

We do the paintball.

Well, that's different than us.

That does not work for everyone.

So that's another thing.

That wasn't on the basis of cutting that to the... Oh, shit, I got a gentleman there.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I think what you're saying is you don't want to do it if a racist is addressing a transnational problem.

No, hell no.

Which Kennedy and Eisenhower both did in August, but Johnson didn't, so.

No.

Okay, we're going to do it.

We're going to sign that.

And it hit her that night.

Yeah, they've asked if I can attend a performance at National Arts Center.

That's probably a good idea.

No, I'd always be sure.

Well, I'm sure it's a dinner.

Yeah.

On a chance, but it's not quite there.

Demonstrated.

Right.

Okay.

What we were going to raise was, why didn't they just have an entertainer at the dinner?

I don't know.

I'll leave that to them.

They have the evening.

They can do the evening any goddamn way they want.

That's what I want.

But, uh...

I thought it was... Our people aren't pushing the Governor General's return luncheon and all that sort of thing.

I hope not.

I don't think so.

Canadians will sit there and think, oh, you were right.

You know, have the Governor General's dinner the first night, and then we'll give a return luncheon the next day, and another dinner the next night.

and you go from Ottawa to Toronto for the non-graduals agreement signing ceremony, it's not worth it.

Now, that includes public parking.

So, I think, one, you can't arrive till late that evening, but it can't be a deal.

Number two, it can only be a one-visit deal.

Number three, now, you won't.

No.

It was a pretty good idea on the way up, but it screws itself on time, so I'm going to try to do it, which is to stop at the Buffalo.

I mean, what do you do at the Buffalo?

I mean, with the Great Lakes governors, putting them on the U.S. Canada, Great Lakes would be a good sign.

It would be a device for getting into Buffalo, which is a place that would be good for us to go.

Yeah.

And they come to the store after that.

But you'd have to do it early.

Yeah.

And I think you'd have to go on and do piranhas.

They are a little early, which is not good.

So I just don't think we have the time to do it.

I'll try.

What do you do with it?

How do you, what do you have over your current medium to follow the next bay and then take off?

Do you have the treaty signed treaty next morning before we go?

That is the return of the treaty signed treaty.

Now you've got to have another session.

No problem.

They're not pushing very hard for much more meeting time.

They want dinners.

They want social fun.

They want to present to the diplomatic corps, have dinners, address parliament, have lunches, plant trees, call it a gala performance at the theater center, a buffet afterwards, all this kind of stuff.

Signing a ceremony in Toronto, or in New York, or...

I'm going to get him the hell out of Ottawa and have the signing ceremony in Toronto the next day if you want to have something.

It's two pounds.

But it bothers me that they're both very close together.

Yeah.

And Toronto's a bike figure city.

They'd like to have it there.

I've said to you, I've been in another motorcade, in another place, on a truck, demonstrated and all that.

Is that good or bad?

No.

I don't know.

Are you, uh, do you feel we should do the joint session?

You posed yourself a problem.

It gets you out of the pattern of your other country business that you've never done before.

Well, you didn't.

No, you didn't address the problem.

Yeah, yeah, you did it, Bob.

You addressed it.

Yeah.

I did.

But you didn't.

No.

You attended the problem.

Oh, they don't allow that.

I don't know what you...

I don't think it's something to do with a fellow of mine doing publicity and I'm talking to a Jew about it.

But it means you've got to have a speech prepared.

You've got to go through the meetings during the day and then go gawking into Parliament and make a speech.

On the other hand, it should be read, so that's no problem.

Yeah.

And I hear you're a little aware of the business you're doing.

I'm gonna have to write this big price.

You get about three weeks after the meeting.

Jesus Christ.

If I had this big trucker, I'd do the farm up there.

Do you want it?

Yeah.

Do you have a quarter of a book if you have to lose me?

That's not part of the argument.

I don't know.

Canadian-American friendship, isn't it?

Canadian-American friendship, of course.

What the prospects for peace in the world are.

Prospects for peace in the world.

It allows you to say something.

Better picture, basically, then.

Your ride will take you home to lunch.

Much better picture than television.

You know, Dave got into a three o'clock in the afternoon.

That's right.

I don't give a shit about that anyway, whether he's getting television on or off.

Three o'clock in the afternoon is a pretty good time to go.

You don't mind that?

Now the meeting of the diplomatic corps, I have no objection to that.

It means a whole lot.

But you know what I mean, they would have to do it and let them receive them.

I shake their hands, you know, that's advantageous.

Cutting down, I've got to be doing something while I'm in the band, let me say that.

And the ceremony was such better than having to sit in front of the judo.

Absolutely, absolutely.

When did they have the meeting of diplomats?

Who's working on this schedule?

Somebody from the state?

It's our job.

We're working on it now.

Somehow we got, I don't know where it came from, a proposed program from a university.

Well, they want to do that after you arrive at government house.

That's right.

That night, that doesn't solve it for the first time.

If you get there, that doesn't solve it because I just had something to do, right?

I don't mind that.

Well, but why not do it in the morning?

We don't have time during the day.

We've got a whole day there.

We've got a lot of time to develop.

Well... Well, and in the morning.

We've got to have a meeting with Trudeau.

Correct?

Well, lunch should be Friday.

In fact, I'm not going to have lunch with everybody.

And just, I've got to do work.

What you do is, then if you get up in the morning, you go to the Trudeau Governor General's office.

Oh yeah, you have to pay a courtesy call to go dine.

That's right.

And that's just the formality.

You know, I know, we always do that today.

You go to the department, you'll meet with the Prime Minister.

That's right.

You know, you go to the head of the Prime Minister for the balance of the morning.

You go to church for lunch.

private ones, you go back to the residence.

Then you go back up to the hill, to the parliament at 3 o'clock, address parliament, have a reception for the parliament party.

And then back to the residence.

Then you have their dinner.

There are many reasons not to have a diplomatic forum if they want, after the Dressel Park Parliament has been sectioned.

We're working nicely then.

How about the diplomatic order?

You can't do it the night before we come in.

Sure you can.

That's what I personally prefer.

That's what I heard the most.

Well, how late though do they know we're going in?

Well, see, they want you to come in and try to do diplomatic order and to do an 8 o'clock dinner.

Oh, we should have a dinner.

And we said no on the dinner.

And what we can do is arrive at 8.

Well, that knocks the poor diplomats out of their hands, doesn't it?

Yeah.

Let's do that.

And to get the diplomatic corps out of the way, I'd say that when I arrive, I'd be glad to see any diplomats over there.

You see what I mean?

All right.

God damn it, Bob.

Why didn't you let me assist them?

Horrible dinners.

They are unbelievably gross.

You just have to go through.

I mean, for busy people, they're agonizing.

I don't understand how they...

I was thinking, you know, we left, and then Sordo or somebody, they cranked him back up, and they had a big dinner for him, and some other dinner.

So I was trying to listen to them, and I said, we're all back.

See ya.

those blue guys, because it must be the same people all the time.

Going up and down the line, meeting all those clowns, calling them all back in, and sitting there, dishing all that crap out on everybody's plate, laughing and smoking cigarettes, when they don't pay.

I just don't know how they can do that.

I don't care who they do it.

It's done in many capitals, all of these social things.

Way longer people do business.

Let's give them so that they don't think we're just pissing on them.

Let's give them a diplomatic order for sure.

I'm glad we see the diplomatic order after Iran.

and work it out so that I can't do a dinner.

I can find it.

You promised you'd do a dinner that night.

You've got to do a dinner lunch.

I know.

I'm not going to do dinner that night.

I'll call on the governor general the next day and I'll do it.

9 o'clock.

They didn't want to consider the, the interesting part.

That's a hell of a lot better than planting a tree.

They want to do both.

Just, just, just Johnson planted a tree.

I don't know.

I think you can get out of a tree plant.

Ain't enough students, you know what I mean?

It's an unescapable tradition.

If it's an unescapable tradition done by other presidents, I'll go plant the goddamn tree, you know what I mean?

Maybe go to a Republican party.

Or a pretty shot.

The dreamland may be right outside the file.

Maybe something to just walk down.

Notice the exact government.

That's fine.

Do it.

who would immediately after seeing the double-channel.

I heard he depends upon the ability of... Now you're right, Nick.

You're the pro, and it has to be his speech that doesn't matter.

No, I know it doesn't matter how a lot of you check it.

You don't like to make a total flop on the cell phone.

Rather than all about the Canadian-American affair, we started to put them on the higher level of wars.

Oh, I hate how it feels.

They don't say a goddamn thing for us.

Look at what a Mexican, a Mexican always makes his pitch.

for himself, but both of the dinner and the ride wanted to rest.

He was building up an ultra-great trip to China.

He believed it, of course.

But it's good for him to say it really is.

And there I was thinking about being a parliamentarian myself.

Three weeks.

Why don't you hold that in advance to see whether they can get us to be traded and that I think there's any possibility of success.

So could you put them to work on it now?

Sure.

Outside, outside 2014.

That's what they've got to do is get them started.

Well, I know, but me, yes, we're going to talk about the world and about the, you know, there's nobody around here who knows enough about it to say it.

Okay, yeah.

We'll get some stuff down and then as soon as Sapphire's done the other ones, then we can take them on board or rail them back then.

But it's got to get done.

That's the point down there.

I don't want to interfere with the press conference you see or something like that.

We've done three weeks before we go, so it's right.

We just say it's got to be done by the end of next week.

I just all wrapped up and just put in the box.

It has to be done before Easter.

I have to have it by Wednesday.

Isn't that, or what is Easter?

Well, Wednesday is a week.

Friday.

I've got to have it by Friday.

You ought to have it by Thursday so that you can have a look, look it over and get it done so it's done by Easter.

Yeah, but just say that I haven't had it by, it's given Friday that I'm letting go out of town.

And Friday, Friday 12 o'clock, dead of night.

That's the problem.

All right.

I'm sure there is, if there is any question about it.

The problem is they don't carry labels.

He isn't a speechwriter.

That's the problem.

There's a man who would be a good speechwriter, but he isn't a speechwriter now.

He's doing something else.

Right.

The memorandum was self-explanatory about Poland and Turkey.

Of course, I wanted to reopen the tape, but I don't want to have him take either of them.

Let me come around it another way.

Let me come at it another way.

Both Higg and Henry will come up with the wrong reasons as far as our history is concerned.

Just to say, as Henry totally almost went up against the wall because he covered the Chinese.

He, of course, as we know, admits that he was wrong.

He would have been dead without the corrections.

And Henry's the first one to do it.

Yeah, he is.

That's right, he admits it.

Now, the point is, is there's a reason I'm not going to see this sport.

There is nothing I'm going to do, you know, except I've got to do the Mexican.

I've got to do the Jordanian.

And I've got to do the Russian.

Now, there's nothing else before 306.

And I'm not going to do anything else.

I'm not going to do the United Nations.

I'm not going to do anything.

Don't raise any questions.

You can deal with it.

against that goddamn thing.

Well, that's enough.

That is sure enough.

Now, the sole purpose of our struggle is that now.

The fact that Turkey is a NATO member is, doesn't bother me one damn bit.

We're not gonna make it safe.

We're just gonna stop by and go in another way.

I've laid out an arrangement to go to Istanbul for maybe four hours.

And we did it.

and then with a rifle, and what you will see in the form of another rifle, a .

That's a great objective.

And I'm not saying it's a nice thing.

It's actually a hammerhead.

Maybe we'll see some dire clock falling through the tree today.

Now,

But the whole approach, and I've been extremely good about this spot with Henry and the NSC and the State Department people up to this point.

And I've always put the field of what does the country require?

for 45 minutes, almost an hour, with that iron control thing.

You're all old man, you know.

You hear yourself babble along.

And you go on and on and on and on.

Now the whole purpose from now on, this is now March the 23rd, the whole purpose of everything we do, these like us, is it going to affect our real life?

And you've got to hammer that into their goddamn heads.

They've got to get an end to help you take some risks on the other side.

I have a very strong memory.

He thinks they're going to walk out.

Here's the table walkout.

So that's all he said.

He called the report that appeared at the end of the LCA.

I don't know if he'll walk out.

He still doesn't know who I am.

That's the situation.

You see, I have a medium-sized, big, full-headed, one-of-a-stay-at-the-end-of-my-animal.

... ... ... ... ... ... ...

That underlines the point I'm just making, that when we now come, we now are in the period where

We've just got to be a little goddamn more cynical about the political stuff.

We do not agree.

I sure do.

And I guess let's, I mean, whatever we do could help the political development.

It is goddamn, and I just don't do it.

It isn't.

That's the problem.

And we don't do anything that hurts us either.

Just avoid it.

I mean, I'm not going to take any risks.

I think an event is going to be one that's not going to be helpful.

I just won't do it.

The problem is that you always get these things that would be a good thing to do.

And what we've got to do is look also at the political benefit of not doing anything, which there also is.

Both in terms of just doing nothing could be better than doing a wrong thing.

Doing nothing.

You not doing something means that you're saved up for good.

That I have some miles better.

I have time to think.

and put my mind through the problems.

Well, you're not getting pulled and tugged at.

I hope a little bit.

Definitely.

I had a trip to New York, and we did that.

I think it was probably a plus.

I think it was.

And I think of deciding yesterday was a plus.

And you establish where it's only a plus.

But you've got a plus on drugs now.

And it's came through.

We were lucky because there wasn't the other reason.

If there had been anything else, it wouldn't have come through.

They did.

And they, and you, of course you made it that your head role was the lead.

Did the head role have the lead?

Damn right.

That's what they played on all the television.

That's how you, probably how you got on television.

If you hadn't said that, you might not have been on.

Did you read what they prepared?

No, but some of the usual things they did.

Compassion for these people and addicts and all the rest and so forth.

People are not going to play that on television.

The thing they played for money was in some of the toughest languages ever used.

All right.

Nixon said today that, you know, no penalty is stupid shit.

Out of the simplest penalties, they deserve no sympathy.

The Bush track deserves no sympathy.

And that's good stuff.

That's exactly what all the little people out in the suburbs think.

They'd like you to catch them every now and then.

Try it as soon as you can.

And the heads roll.

And the heads roll on the goddamn bureaucrats who are screwing things up.

Meeting with each other.

They like to hear that from you, right?

And you don't go anywhere near it.

You've got to be careful not to get into dental gum in the wall of the center.

You aren't anywhere near that.

You're miles from that.

People are oversensitive to how far you can go.

Well, that's a great question.

Before you get out of first practice, I just want you to be a blind eye.

Not words, something that matters to people.

Emotionally and personally.

Bussing matters to them.

He drugged them and he was looking for them.

And they didn't understand.

You've got to show a little passion about something.

If you went out and tried to show some passion about an environmental problem, clean up.

Then he made an understanding.

Terrible.

And yet that's probably where they want you to do it.

And they're wrong.

I'm not going to do it.

You've got to be responsible on that.

It is important to make certain progress, but not be in a dirty way.

Yeah, and also our government people that are just telling those damn bureaucrats to also, you know, get together and protect our world.

Well, the other thing is, that has no effect on that.

Damn right it does.

They aren't used to being come to that way.

Huh?

They aren't used to being come to that way.

When a president says something like that, you don't have to speak very loudly.

Who here dare to have a little startle?

So we use that as an example of other examples.

I think, for example, going to Philadelphia or that kind of thing is probably a good thing.

But there is, I'm sure, and they'll call it a political event.

It is a political event.

I wouldn't worry about it.

It's all we are.

All right.

Well, Cole, was he a good man who's been helpful to you?

Right.

I know he's been helpful to you.

He was great in the White House.

White House church opposition to the men who came

Sheriff, is this a return visit?

You're pleased to be able to honor him?

It may be a good thing to do the same thing.

The National Governing Conference is a ridiculous thing to do.

Totally.

Don't get me near a good damn thing.

But I can do it.

The Southern Baptist might have been a good thing if we were meeting in the right place.

No, they're wrong.

Philadelphia is murder.

Campus Crusade is wrong because they're not ready.

I don't want to put them on track.

And that, we've got to look at a lot of those things right now.

And you've got to look, you've got to look, however, at some places where you can go and get a good public reception.

It does have an effect on the people traveling with you on it.

It also has an effect on the Congress and others back here and the politicians.

You know, they've got to see the President of the United States.

You remember, you can't go to the J.C. convention online.

The J.C. convention?

By the J.C. convention, I think it's on.

I think we should have a very busy schedule.

First, we should take off.

We should go.

We should, of course, take off.

We turn from Russia for five days, four days or so.

That's all we really take off.

Then get out and hit the road.

But between then and the Democratic convention, we should stay out until after the California primary, which is the 6th.

Yeah.

And then a lot of other primaries, yeah, that's going to be, I think you ought to just let that run its course.

You ought not to be with them.

That gives you, that's, that's five days.

I think we ought to try to report it.

I don't think not doing it is going to lose anything.

That's the other thing.

Except with about a half of it, we get deep galoshes down here.

I think Billy and Johnson will all, Billy and Johnson.

No, no, no.

Where is the damage?

I think it's in the climate.

No, I just think we all reported it.

No, I'm wrong.

I'm wrong.

Sorry.

Chicago?

Well, what's the difference?

I don't know.

It's right before the Republican election.

It's still a bad time.

I shouldn't be thinking about a speech for the Legion Convention before going to the Republican Convention for the purpose of making an acceptance speech when I'm going to be on television.

I shouldn't have a, what do you think?

I think it's better not to go to the Legion Convention anymore.

The VFW is better to go to than the Legion, really.

Even there, the VFW, it's a dead-ass group.

They're either drunk or they're so old they can't stand up.

That's right.

All those conventions are sort of becoming anachronistic anyway.

All the veterans conventions?

Yeah.

I don't know.

I just...

I think you better off not to do it.

Let's find a way to get to Chicago in another way.

There's no problem getting to Chicago.

Plenty of times.

I'm not so sure we should marry each other.

Yeah, that's what I think.

Well, I'd like to get to Chicago in a month or two.

After the Russian trip, it's a good time to get to Chicago.

To get Ohio, it's a good time.

This has been shown in the baseball video about how he turned it down.

I think it's not worth it.

It's a, it's a, a dead-ass thing.

Cincinnati will have a lousy turnout for that game.

It just doesn't, it doesn't have the right time.

Because I'm the focus of it.

Only one I would consider would be done without no protection.

Don't throw that to me.

Yeah, that's, well, you know.

I know.

They're there to see baseball.

I really think they'll go to the J.C. because I know it's going to be a good audience.

I didn't go to Atlanta once, it's good.

I think Rotary might be a good one.

I'm prepared to go back.

Well, you can flip this to Rotary International Convention.

You know damn well it is international, so you can play it as international.

It's been 80% American, but they usually have it in their name.

Well, then, if this president is, the president is what?

I mean, it's not...

Wait, no.

Thank you.

Is he a candidate?

Yeah, he is.

Whatever he is.

Of course he's a candidate.

Oh, right.

Follow the identity with that name.

No, no, no.

I won't do that in any circumstances.

I have the identity, and I know the dimensions.

There's nothing to be done there.

Nothing to be gained.

No.

I'll turn that down.

Voice, brother.

Voice down.

I think the legion should be done for a number of reasons.

I don't want to make a speech for that kind of group, you know, and stuff.

You know, to go out there without a horse's ass and that kind of stuff.

And I think we've got a good thing to just say, I've got to be in.

I've got to go to California for the convention.

They don't know the wrong town.

They don't know the city.

I'm going to do it.

The key thing is that the dinner isn't done.

You can drop by the dinner and just say it.

I'll tell them in advance that I've got to do the dinner because, you know, you're here to convention.

Unfortunately, it's the time of our life.

You can bullshit about it, but the plank bonus committee is going to need it.

Yeah.

Even though I won't be there, I have to do that.

I just can't make it.

So you wanted to do that.

That's right.

To do the check-in for dinner.

Yeah.

Well, that's very...

Well, if you'll just put the rock, I mean, tell Haig so that Henry is, Haig will know better about this, and Henry will understand it.

But you just tell Haig, now look here, we'll be cold-blooded political about every one of these things.

And we're not gonna make a judgment on the basis of, well, like,

How's it going to affect this country every year from now?

How's it going to affect German-Polish relations in the next six to eight months?

Well, it's that simple answer.

Which is going to affect Germany more?

Are we going to hold it for a day, or the President can't really beat it in November?

That's right.

And you put it right to him that way.

You know, buy a little insurance.

That's right.

And we've got to, but don't.

The main thing is, the main thing is, I want you to tell Abe, and you tell him, I do not want him to raise this thing, but he'll come in and he just gasses it permanently about, well, you know, he's great when he's in the spiel, but when he's out of the spiel, you know, he just goes on and on and on about stuff and moans about it.

And it has no relevance, you see.

It's like everybody likes to talk about politics.

The month that we've been back from China has been about 80% negative.

And I've heard it about three months.

And what the hell is this?

And that's not the end of it.

And it's not the end of it.

But it also shows what we're going to be up against in the campaign.

It's what hurts us in PA. All the stuff.

The bombing halt put the cream around it.

But there's no reason for us not to be hungry when it came to the police.

Except the Congress was being around the demonstration constantly, day after day after day.

And despite the presence of our campaign,

Of course, we're going to do several other things a little different from, you know, your point of meeting.

The hell would he mean around this?

I mean, you may have a passion, but you've got to do it.

Your news has got to be made earlier in the day, right?

And that's the whole deal, isn't it?

You know, I think we're...

You mentioned the police brief.

I asked him about the brief a long time ago.

He said, well, it's been a long time.

We've got to make something that's to be exchanged.

This is one.

A big reception in Poland.

The effect of the zone.

It's going to have an enormous impact.

Much more than any country we've been in.

A big reception in Romania.

It affects Pennsylvania.

It affects Ohio.

It affects Illinois.

And it affects Michigan.

New York, not so much.

Well, yeah, Buffalo, you're right.

Buffalo, I agree.

But there's so many other people in New York.

I must say, I agree.

But I mean, percentage-wise, Pennsylvania is enormous.

Ohio is great.

Illinois is great.

And Michigan and Wisconsin.

Yeah, if you want to go back in line, no question.

That's the second one to say where we've got a problem and where we've got to watch our way.

In Illinois, it's one that is always about never having a problem.

We're dying today, and especially if you're somebody who can't help but get busted for doing a foolish thing.

We're going to go out in the summer, maybe not, maybe we'll go over it.

I'm not sure they would.

You get to work with Al and go in and be sure Alex doesn't send a memo or anything about it because I don't want to decide things.

Consider things that I don't need to decide.

And we go over the thing.

The Polish thing and the Turkish thing.

The Turkish thing I think is a project of grievance, I think.

Hitting two cities, right after I hit Iran.

As I hit Iran, I don't want two days there.

I want that to be in a big dinner, I mean a reception, a dinner to spend the night at Tom's house.

That's a one-day stop, and only one night.

Of course, one night.

The possibility of us getting in there and doing that, not arriving at night because we don't come there.

You want to arrive at daylight, of course, because the arrival will be the biggest.

That's right.

The arrival is the big thing, so don't do it at night.

Early in the morning, have our talks, have the dinner at night, and leave the next day.

That made you to pop over and then do this and pull over for the purpose of having a god-damned good reception.

Get it!

Get down!

Park your car.

Thank you for letting us watch this.

See you later, Ron.

Here's your Ron.

Or if you want to, tear around and pull them back.

Or tear around and just pull them back.

Pull them back.

You're done.

But you probably can't make this one go.

Well, this can go.

If you do pull them, let me say, I wouldn't do it if it pulled.

See?

I would try to do both.

Oh, I see.

I don't think you could.

I think what I would do is do Tehran, return to Turkey, and then go to Poland.

But if you don't do Poland, I think Istanbul is a fair second choice in terms of just getting a good reception in two places.

People say, well, the Shah put it on.

Well, if you go to Istanbul, who the hell put it on there, see?

And then from Istanbul, I'd just fly on back.

So I would have made, see, I'd make that the place to, to, uh, what do you think?

Huh?

Oh, hell yeah.

They'd like Israel back.

Just a little more.

No problem.

So it goes just as far or farther away?

About the same place.

Israel's a little south, but it's a little west, so it's, yeah.

Well, about the same distance.

It's done a lot, huh?

Yeah.

Where I was.

From Tehran back, it's just too goddamn far, see?

I mean, you'd probably have to reach to, from Hezbollah back, I know it can be done.

I'm done with this, okay?

It's very interesting, you wanna check that situation out, regarding him.

So, yeah.

The Western thing is a little troublesome.

Oh, well, the Western though, they've been extremely volatile.

It goes up and down.

They all are.

Yeah.

West has been one of the, it's erratic.

Yeah.

And that may partly be sinful out there because it's driven a lot of, it's hard to pull a lot of burying areas.

The South is very hard to understand.

But on the other hand, I'm somewhat comfortable with that because my main concern with the bus in Franklin is that it may be too, it is that if anything, it could have been too hard on him.

I think it was not now.

Don't you agree?

Catching both sides.

Now we'll have to take the, but I think if they see it this time, they'll see it the other way around.

Once they see the choice, they will.

One thing I'd like you to follow up on today is just to go back and get Schultz bucked up.

Schultz and Schurkowski and so forth, because they walk off this thing.

We've got to decide what is said today and what I say tomorrow, right?

That might also do it.

Now, that branches to another point, because I suppose they do walk on today.

I think that means that we ought to... Go ahead.

Yeah, you gotta see what you want to say.

If we got something good to say,

Forget it.

If we got something good to say, it could be more right.

Don't waste it in the office.

You know, it's better than nothing.

Let's say it on that TV when they're all listening.

Right.

No radio.

Ron, did Ron tell that client?

He said, yeah.

And of course they would.

I had a voiceover, huh?

He said, that's when we had, when the radio was a good idea.

Yeah, yeah.

And I'm not sure that I buy Erwin's point, that the country's pending to hear the president answer questions.

No.

No?

No.

and climate, I think that's true.

Do you agree?

Maybe not.

I think the President gains by being answered questions.

I think it's possible that I have not.

But then, you've got to extend that argument and say, then do it on television.

If you're going to do it, do it a whole time on television.

Or don't give television a chance to take a piece out of the question and say, we should do it this week.

Strong arguments are just made up.

Okay.