Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 326-016
Date: Friday, March 24, 1972 at 12:54 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/326-016

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[2:00:25] So, ah, anything further to add before I, before I put them on here?
[2:00:31] Well, then I'll just, I'll just put them on here.
[2:00:41] How about that?
[2:00:46] Yeah, now that's a lot easier.
[2:00:57] That's right.
[2:01:01] All right.
[2:01:02] Well, I think he made his greatest growth during the Kennedy-Johnson administration.
[2:01:06] That's when he became a giant conglomerate.
[2:01:09] Okay.
[2:01:09] With regard to the other names, that would be all I wanted to do.
[2:01:21] All right.
[2:01:22] Good.
[2:01:22] Well, that last sentence was very important.
[2:01:25] Yeah, fine.
[2:01:27] Yeah.
[2:01:28] Yeah.
[2:01:32] Well, the point is, though, that I think he puts up tests.
[2:01:35] The point is, is that the Dural will play well, and I'll wait a minute.
[2:01:38] These are not other tests.
[2:01:39] The Tidal tests, yeah.
[2:01:43] Well, what about, I thought the Dural was using three games in a row, you know?
[2:01:49] Yeah.
[2:01:54] Yeah.
[2:01:55] Yeah.
[2:02:07] Why are they backing off?
[2:02:40] That's right.
[2:02:44] Right.
[2:02:44] Well, I think he made his greatest growth during the Kennedy-Johnson administration.
[2:02:48] That's when he became a giant conglomerate.
[2:02:51] Okay.
[2:02:51] With regard to the other name.
[2:02:52] That's the only one.
[2:03:02] Right.
[2:03:03] Good.
[2:03:04] Well, that last sentence was very important.
[2:03:06] Yeah, fine.
[2:03:15] Ja, ja.
[2:03:16] Ja, ja.
[2:03:16] Ja, ja.
[2:03:49] Why are they backing off?
[2:03:52] Get her confused.
[2:03:56] Get her confused.
[2:04:04] Yeah.
[2:04:05] Why?
[2:04:16] Right.
[2:04:17] Well, they shouldn't.
[2:04:18] Well, they ought to just to show that like last week, Peter Beard going out was essential.
[2:04:21] That's what broke.
[2:04:22] And they kept this week from being a disaster.
[2:04:26] So right now they ought to put out their own test saying they have an expert that said it's untrue.
[2:04:30] And then just confuse them with Jesus.
[2:04:37] Yeah.
[2:04:38] Good.
[2:04:39] Good.
[2:04:39] All right.
[2:04:55] Well, now the others should just start to have a showdown.
[2:05:01] Scott and Boyd ought to really get tough with these ones.
[2:05:05] Why the hell doesn't Mitchell get over these ones?
[2:05:07] He can't, honestly.
[2:05:08] He can't.
[2:05:18] I don't know.
[2:05:19] The point of this one is basically, he's not against this in a sense, but he is a partisan.
[2:05:33] I don't know.
[2:05:34] I didn't notice that.
[2:05:34] They brought that up again.
[2:05:35] Yeah.
[2:05:38] Well, how does that apply if we're just presidential and not the...
[2:05:50] Now all this equal timing, do you think somebody's going to ask me about debating that today?
[2:06:46] Yeah, the badgers are just trying to bail out their money.
[2:06:49] How about keep going?
[2:06:50] Yeah.
[2:06:55] Yeah.
[2:06:57] Yeah.
[2:06:57] Yeah.
[2:06:57] The last thing to do is just play a tough game.
[2:07:10] They want to be able to let people squeal a little while and that's that.
[2:07:20] Bye.
[2:07:47] I don't know whether it comes across very good, just being out there before the cameras on it.
[2:08:03] I don't know.
[2:08:18] I need two or three other great things.
[2:08:46] Get your people around the country to write some scathing and effective letters to the editors of Times, who should be putting this on the edge of the cover.
[2:08:59] I think that's very important.
[2:09:03] Second, I think some scathing letters should go to these networks, and just in regard to...
[2:09:13] Remember, I believe these things have more effect on others than the United States.
[2:09:18] They ought to get them, you know.
[2:09:20] Others about the unfairness that they're having in the buses and so forth.
[2:09:27] But what I meant is that the raising hell of the networks should start now, Chuck, and not in November.
[2:09:31] See, this is too late now.
[2:09:34] Is anybody on top of that?
[2:09:36] Calls should be made, raising hell, letters should be written, you know, getting our top people to talk to us.
[2:09:42] Yeah.
[2:09:42] Yeah.
[2:09:42] Right.
[2:09:43] But at the time of this, we've taken about, when I say a hundred, maybe even twenty.
[2:09:53] Twenty or thirty letters, but that is for the end.
[2:09:59] It's a question of proof.
[2:10:03] I mean, a charge is made and no proof.
[2:10:05] I mean, and just say this is typical of a publication, in the case of Tom, of a publication that would be taken in by the Irving Post, that they would be taken in by this.
[2:10:16] I write something like that.
[2:10:18] Have a statement made by that.
[2:10:19] Have somebody attack Tom Gregg on the cover of that.
[2:10:21] I agree with that.
[2:10:21] Say, typical of a publication, of a publication that would have been taken in by the Irving Post, that they would be taken in by that.
[2:10:31] Okay?
[2:11:00] It's funny, that's right.
[2:11:00] I know, exactly the same way.
[2:11:01] On the other hand, I do know that when we get into these things, that we've got to always keep our balance, remembering the fact that if we don't, then the world is going to end.
[2:11:10] You know?
[2:11:10] Yeah.
[2:11:12] Yeah.
[2:11:12] Yeah.
[2:11:14] Yeah.
[2:11:21] Yeah.
[2:11:59] Smear, smear, smear, smear.
[2:12:13] Smear it.
[2:12:19] Smear it.
[2:12:20] Smear it.
[2:12:21] Smear it.
[2:12:23] Smear it.
[2:12:24] Smear it.
[2:12:26] Smear it.
[2:12:30] I hope they just get the whips to pass over them, okay?
[2:12:32] Get the whips, they look, and you say, smear, smear, smear, and then start singing, start singing, start creating tunnels, and we'll funnel these people.
[2:12:42] Well, I'm not saying that I think that on the main thing, you know, we've got to have some of the guns, and we're going to keep them right there where it is.
[2:12:54] Of course, the networks have to run, and unfortunately, I mean, it is,
[2:13:28] Over there, CPI.
[2:13:29] Who is it?
[2:13:29] Yeah, yeah.
[2:13:31] Yeah.
[2:13:33] Yeah.
[2:13:33] Yeah, yeah.
[2:13:36] All right.
[2:13:36] Tell, I want you to tell Schultz this.
[2:13:39] Sure, they're leaking.
[2:13:42] They're leaking to everybody but us.
[2:13:44] We still got more over there.
[2:13:47] That son of a bitch is gone, I'll tell you.
[2:13:50] We've got a lot of these guys on his overday after.
[2:13:53] Remember the bit?
[2:13:57] That's right.
[2:13:59] He's going to be out of there.
[2:14:01] Just sorry we can't throw arguments out with him.
[2:14:03] The way he's been acting.
[2:14:08] Everybody tells me Conner did very well.
[2:14:09] They said he just knocked their brains out.