{"conversationCode":"326-017","tapeNumber":326,"conversationNumber":17,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-326-017","startDateTime":"1972-03-24T18:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-24T18:16:00.000Z","startDate":"24-Mar-1972","startTime":"1:12 PM","endDate":"24-Mar-1972","endTime":"1:16 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On March 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:12 pm and 1:16 pm. 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Flanigan\n           -John D. Ehrlichman","filename":["326a.mp3","326b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:14:11","tapeEnd":"02:16:34","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"326-016","nextCode":"326-018","tapeTranscriptFile":"326a.mp3,326b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":8051,"end":8053.02,"text":"They said he just knocked their brains out."},{"start":8053.08,"end":8061.96,"text":"We're on the offensive on the issue."},{"start":8061.98,"end":8068.69,"text":"All right."},{"start":8076.64,"end":8076.94,"text":"Right."},{"start":8080.74,"end":8080.88,"text":"Good."},{"start":8080.9,"end":8080.98,"text":"Good."},{"start":8083.66,"end":8084.56,"text":"Start coming a little."},{"start":8085.6,"end":8085.94,"text":"That's right."},{"start":8086.44,"end":8086.58,"text":"Good."},{"start":8087.36,"end":8090.92,"text":"And putting the Democrats on the side of Jordanians."},{"start":8090.96,"end":8092.86,"text":"They're trying to torpedo this thing."},{"start":8092.88,"end":8098.82,"text":"They aren't cooperating with the country."},{"start":8098.98,"end":8099.12,"text":"Good."},{"start":8103.34,"end":8114.7,"text":"What is the right guarantee for the 14th Amendment?"},{"start":8114.98,"end":8120.97,"text":"No protection of the laws."},{"start":8123.67,"end":8128.01,"text":"And that's what it is."},{"start":8128.52,"end":8136.57,"text":"Racial balance is not a right guarantee for the Portuguese government, and fussing is not a right guarantee for the Portuguese government."},{"start":8136.65,"end":8140.24,"text":"How the hell is racial balance?"},{"start":8140.52,"end":8140.92,"text":"In a school."},{"start":8140.94,"end":8145.18,"text":"Equal protection to the law."},{"start":8145.2,"end":8145.58,"text":"Okay."},{"start":8145.62,"end":8145.8,"text":"Bye."},{"start":8171.32,"end":8173.04,"text":"Anything new?"},{"start":8173.06,"end":8174.34,"text":"Colson just told me about that."},{"start":8174.36,"end":8174.72,"text":"I didn't."},{"start":8174.74,"end":8178.02,"text":"They were catching a paper about the Senate ruling on that 315 thing."},{"start":8178.16,"end":8180.65,"text":"I don't know about you."},{"start":8180.66,"end":8188.45,"text":"The Democrats were doing that for just to get free television."},{"start":8188.51,"end":8189.19,"text":"Oh, no, no, no."},{"start":8189.21,"end":8189.77,"text":"It goes beyond that."},{"start":8189.85,"end":8191.87,"text":"They know I'm not going to be there."},{"start":8192.33,"end":8192.51,"text":"No, but..."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":8051,"end":8194,"startMethod":"tape_time","endMethod":"tape_time"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. 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