On March 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:54 pm to 1:12 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 326-016 of the White House Tapes.
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So, ah, anything further to add before I, before I put them on here?
Well, then I'll just, I'll just put them on here.
How about that?
Yeah, now that's a lot easier.
That's right.
All right.
Well, I think he made his greatest growth during the Kennedy-Johnson administration.
That's when he became a giant conglomerate.
Okay.
With regard to the other names, that would be all I wanted to do.
All right.
Good.
Well, that last sentence was very important.
Yeah, fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, the point is, though, that I think he puts up tests.
The point is, is that the Dural will play well, and I'll wait a minute.
These are not other tests.
The Tidal tests, yeah.
Well, what about, I thought the Dural was using three games in a row, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why are they backing off?
That's right.
Right.
Well, I think he made his greatest growth during the Kennedy-Johnson administration.
That's when he became a giant conglomerate.
Okay.
With regard to the other name.
That's the only one.
Right.
Good.
Well, that last sentence was very important.
Yeah, fine.
Ja, ja.
Ja, ja.
Ja, ja.
Why are they backing off?
Get her confused.
Get her confused.
Yeah.
Why?
Right.
Well, they shouldn't.
Well, they ought to just to show that like last week, Peter Beard going out was essential.
That's what broke.
And they kept this week from being a disaster.
So right now they ought to put out their own test saying they have an expert that said it's untrue.
And then just confuse them with Jesus.
Yeah.
Good.
Good.
All right.
Well, now the others should just start to have a showdown.
Scott and Boyd ought to really get tough with these ones.
Why the hell doesn't Mitchell get over these ones?
He can't, honestly.
He can't.
I don't know.
The point of this one is basically, he's not against this in a sense, but he is a partisan.
I don't know.
I didn't notice that.
They brought that up again.
Yeah.
Well, how does that apply if we're just presidential and not the...
Now all this equal timing, do you think somebody's going to ask me about debating that today?
Yeah, the badgers are just trying to bail out their money.
How about keep going?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The last thing to do is just play a tough game.
They want to be able to let people squeal a little while and that's that.
Bye.
I don't know whether it comes across very good, just being out there before the cameras on it.
I don't know.
I need two or three other great things.
Get your people around the country to write some scathing and effective letters to the editors of Times, who should be putting this on the edge of the cover.
I think that's very important.
Second, I think some scathing letters should go to these networks, and just in regard to...
Remember, I believe these things have more effect on others than the United States.
They ought to get them, you know.
Others about the unfairness that they're having in the buses and so forth.
But what I meant is that the raising hell of the networks should start now, Chuck, and not in November.
See, this is too late now.
Is anybody on top of that?
Calls should be made, raising hell, letters should be written, you know, getting our top people to talk to us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
But at the time of this, we've taken about, when I say a hundred, maybe even twenty.
Twenty or thirty letters, but that is for the end.
It's a question of proof.
I mean, a charge is made and no proof.
I mean, and just say this is typical of a publication, in the case of Tom, of a publication that would be taken in by the Irving Post, that they would be taken in by this.
I write something like that.
Have a statement made by that.
Have somebody attack Tom Gregg on the cover of that.
I agree with that.
Say, typical of a publication, of a publication that would have been taken in by the Irving Post, that they would be taken in by that.
Okay?
It's funny, that's right.
I know, exactly the same way.
On the other hand, I do know that when we get into these things, that we've got to always keep our balance, remembering the fact that if we don't, then the world is going to end.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Smear, smear, smear, smear.
Smear it.
Smear it.
Smear it.
Smear it.
Smear it.
Smear it.
Smear it.
I hope they just get the whips to pass over them, okay?
Get the whips, they look, and you say, smear, smear, smear, and then start singing, start singing, start creating tunnels, and we'll funnel these people.
Well, I'm not saying that I think that on the main thing, you know, we've got to have some of the guns, and we're going to keep them right there where it is.
Of course, the networks have to run, and unfortunately, I mean, it is,
Over there, CPI.
Who is it?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Tell, I want you to tell Schultz this.
Sure, they're leaking.
They're leaking to everybody but us.
We still got more over there.
That son of a bitch is gone, I'll tell you.
We've got a lot of these guys on his overday after.
Remember the bit?
That's right.
He's going to be out of there.
Just sorry we can't throw arguments out with him.
The way he's been acting.
Everybody tells me Conner did very well.
They said he just knocked their brains out.