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How are you, sir?

Take your charts with you?

No, sir.

I'll bring the charts.

I've got some over there, though.

I've just been looking at them.

Put them all on TV.

I've got some big ones tomorrow.

We've got some new ones.

I'm sure all these retailers tomorrow.

You've got some?

Yes, sir.

Which ones did you have?

Oh, gosh.

Yes, my giant.

We left three out.

We were under suspicion.

Yes, we have three of them under suspicion and surveillance and negotiation right now.

Two of them are, one of them is not.

One of them would have to be a sovereign corporation.

That is Texas.

But all of a sudden, that's one of the three.

In other words, we have every major food retailer in the country that owes so much money to Texas.

Everybody has to do it.

I won't sit down and judge for a while.

Say, we ought to go out.

We ought to go out.

Now we have to drive too far.

Guess we're on the right side now.

We've got to drive there.

We've got to have a little rigor, a little... We've worked over this for a long time.

We've got to be careful.

I've been showing these charts so frankly, you don't understand.

These charts really have to be unique for us.

Right.

That's what I'm telling you.

They need to be ordered.

I think everything else is just great.

Also, I think it's going to have, as far as accidents are concerned, you're right.

You're going to want to come back right now to the ballroom in order, particularly, to come down here.

And then, I like to agree with you, because meat prices and cattle prices go as much as three and a half dollars two weeks ago.

And that has to do with .

We've had some sort of markets now.

Nationwide, the problem has dropped quite a bit.

It's dropped to at least two and a half.

about 80% of the person paying for drugs.

About that much, and that has to reflect itself somewhere, unless they've taken all their money.

Of course, they are.

They never have any prices, initially, because they have too much money.

We have been working over and over, 12, to see if we have another deal.

We don't gracefully have a price commission.

I hope so.

Your name is .

He'll do anything to support you.

He'll stop saying, it's not true, but it may be safe.

Well, I think that's why I was just questioning the niceties of how he says it.

He was quite qualified.

He was qualified.

I don't think he said anything.

Probably he still won't say anything.

I don't know.

Somebody has to say what he's saying.

They have to do it in a little bit of time so he'll get his point.

Always, oh hell, listen, we pay the price now.

I got the word we're not going to lose it now.

Hell, we sure have.

We've got it.

I mean, the people are squealing about that.

And actually, the price is going to, I don't think, bust his actions.

I don't know what brought him to harm him.

At least we appear to have done something about it.

Now what has happened is that the partners feel a little better and they'll be sure to meet on the, they've got a friend of the partner in here and we're not going to get you.

So you can't please everybody, that's the whole point.

You can't please everybody.

It's the other year.

The figures still look good.

I gave you a very good one last week.

And there's no change.

The honorable leader said it was the first.

I've run into an annualized rate now of 8.2, which is not quite as high as they were.

They're off a little bit.

This is a very critical time.

It's a critical time.

So they're off.

They were only 8.8.

impressively at all times high at the rate of 8.8 million a year.

That's the most impressive of them.

In March, the first week in March, we just got the figures, and they were in the annual average rate of 8.2.

But all the leading indicators are still strong.

They come out well.

This week, as we've got guests, they're still strong.

And there's really no bad news report.

The only bad news is on the international trade.

The trade balance in February was minus $598 million.

That's just too much.

So January, February, that's the trade balance.

It's $900 million.

We're more non-competitive than anybody realizes.

Eventually, this realignment, a break will have some effect, but it's not going to do it yet.

Another thing that's going to help us by the time of the election, I don't know.

That, as an issue, is not going to be anything.

It's going to be difficult, you know, the fact that it's carried on.

No, except the word's going to hurt you.

It's not just going to be carried on.

It's going to be an uneasy monetary situation.

Yeah.

We're going to get caught in the fire.

uh tax

aspects, and then I think, I don't think it's time to say, and I don't think we'll, I'm not suggesting the city to talk to them to take any action, but I think before fall, we're going to be looking to call independence home to Europe, and say we're going to take care of the dollars, and we ought to be probably issuing orders to the Defense Department right now to buy America.

They could.

It's not anything that...

You know, it's all that.

And we don't have to do it yet.

I'm just... You don't think so?

No, I don't.

Well, I'd be good, but I wouldn't recommend we do it.

I'm not that sure.

I'm just...

I'm beginning to sense...

I'm beginning to sense more than anything else what's happening.

What's going to happen to us.

And I think it's good before the fall or maybe before summer.

You may have to take some credit for that.

I don't know.

And as I told you, I guess the last time we talked, you may have put a total embargo on money.

I told Barbara Swan that

The American banks now, as you all see, they have assets in excess of $38 billion of the American banks.

In a moment, we're at $2 billion in assets in the American banks.

Black banks have more assets overseas than all the banks in any state of the Union, except New York and California.

They have total assets of about $52 billion, California about $45 billion.

Then there's $38 billion overseas, Ohio has $45 billion, Texas has $42 billion.

So they've got

Now what they do with it, they speculate with it.

They bought it.

We could be in a hell of a shape.

No question.

Suspension for a second.

Let's see.

And we can ride it out.

It's not a damn thing.

It's a future.

And I will try to put this in perspective.

The only place it hurts you.

So it's a replay in the stock market and appealing in the American business center, where we're gradually and finally, I think, we've had a turnaround in the competence of the American business community.

And I think we do have a step on this ladder, except there's one herb and there's just no convolution.

And we've got to have something on that.

I hope you can sort of talk about that in one year's time.

I wouldn't raise it hard, but I wish you could.

I wouldn't raise it hard.

I'd be trying to say, you know, if anybody else is there,

These damn leaks are going to be argued.

I don't think it will happen.

That's correct.

Well, you can't do it then if you do want to.

Put it on the head.

That's right.

On the text.

Yeah.

Well, only the Democrats are making moves with the means to do it against the administration.

...trying to put this administration on the side of the rich.

Unfortunately, I think he's going to take a left.

He's stuck.

Now they're on a tax return.

and a big boy that he'd never gone on.

The only help we're getting is Wallace.

He's a strong factory boy, but he's cut the other one.

By saying his own truck's been 190 years or 190 years or something.

A history of the United States that everyone in the hell knows.

Why haven't they done something?

So to that extent, you're getting help.

But we have to vote on the issue of this factory boy because it's a real issue.

They finally developed it.

Our people worship God.

I'm not too cynical about what I think they're producing because they're too technical.

I'm a person.

We have to do everything that we can to serve.

Oh, yeah, we have to do everything that we can.

Yeah, I like that.

No, but what I mean is, I mean, politically, I should have suggested to you about what the hell we're saying.

The only one I've come up with, which I've given them, is that these fellows don't want to go on.

They want to raise them.

Don't they explain it?

That's what they want, is a kind of closed loophole.

They say they want a closed loophole.

And then they just take it.

I didn't buy it.

They say what they want to do is to fix it where it needs to be, charge the interest.

So they just leave it.

They won't tell us what they want to do.

What are they going to pay me for?

We can speak to a bunch of mayors who said, yes, they will close the loophole.

They won't take it.

Tax it.

pretty quickly to waive your municipal bonds, right, which will cost you twice as much to do your local financing.

And they say they're going to make it up by giving you a subsidy.

So what they want you to do is live hand-to-mouth, spoon-fed for the federal government.

That's what they want you to do.

They're not talking about reforming anything.

All they're talking about doing is raising your costs and raising taxes so they can spend more money.

And I think it has to be put in that context.

I don't know a better answer to it than that.

If they're not reformers, they're tax reformers.

And they want to raise taxes so they can spend it.

They don't want anybody else to be in there.

They don't even want to try to set them to spend it, because basically, they don't believe in this free enterprise system.

They sure don't.

And they don't think that people have any sense.

They don't think people have a sense of how to spend their own money.

If they want the government to

Well, after all, we want to be clear about the program.

I know it's not a good idea, but that's a hell of a thing.

I'll tell you this, the more I see in these programs, the more I'm happy I am.

If you have a modest program, basically a modest program,

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I said how many people in your batch .

Are there any people who go back and run buses to see how they're doing?

I've only got three that are mortgages behind them.

That's what they're talking about.

At least people don't have any.

What's happening in this country?

We've got bad things that are just terrible.

Well, we've got quite a lot.

We've got to be careful.

I think that was the very best

where they would try to leave the holes and the, you know, go back and do things.

Uh, as opposed to, I don't know, I don't think it's, you know, soft, you know, sort of like that.

I think there has to be a, sort of, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

I don't know.

sometimes the laborers and the leaders, certainly

Sometimes the older folks are all right.

And they just go out and say, look, we're going to give you more credit.

That's been the rule of Greece and so-called democracies in the past, where the people's, the rule of the people ends up by destruction.

That's wrong, because the people are all under the trough.

And somebody's got to stand up there and fight with them.

Now, the impression of being able to fight its way out is a surprise to me.

And this is a very low level, given today's media, which is so focused on a lot of things.

And so it could be done.

It could be done.

Because there's a hell of a lot of people out there in the country who still have some respect for these characters, and who still may be able to see it.

But part of that is the

But the wrong way is to say, well, if they want something, a great deal will get delivered.

I just want to let you know that.

Thank you.

I was just going to say, if you're ready to tell, I just think there's no harm in saying that you keep making these things next year.

Stand right there.

You're standing right there.

That's your life.

Because that's a lot of stuff that, I must say, I probably am more pessimistic about out of 30.

Really pessimistic.

And the more I see it, the more certain I am.

Because we're not structured to even deal with the problem.

And I just look at Japan, and I look at what's happening in Europe, just as sure that God made it that we're not moving toward the type of world we live in.

It's a war war, too.

We're moving away from it.

because we've gone much of their way.

We've been blocked.

Maybe that's the way we are, but I'm not sure yet.

We have to have our own.

But we have to have our own.

And I'm sure that there's no thought, no real thought, that we go through this government.

Because I'm convinced that Japan is not going to change unless you make a change.

I'm convinced that Europe is on a horrible way on the course of consolidation.

And that means to our destiny, and that means for this decade, Europe, because of human decades, is going to be an inward-looking

It's not going to be an outfit with the U.S.

It's not going to be trying to provide leadership to have a so-called world trade system.

They're going to be looking for the consolidation of their own resources.

And you can't, just like you and me, we're all human.

Very human.

And so long as they're trying to integrate that group of countries,

economically, financially, socially, agriculturally, politically.

They don't have time to think about us, about America or anybody else.

They're going to be looking at how they can take a better look at the situation and more closely tie themselves together so they can ever be able to look inward.

So, I don't know.

I guess it's like hope.

Yes.

together with America and South Korea, because we are a world power, and we play a world war, that they cannot be real powers, because in certain areas, there's a place of power.

I mean, some people do it, but they've got to do something better.

So they're going to have members that take the powers off of us, and that'll work.

But we've got this is exactly what they say.

They've got to find an outlet for their drive to greatness.

What is it going to be?

They can't play a real role in those things.

You know, we've been consulting with the European Council on the policy of the Jackass operation, which was a great thing.

And they know, they know, they're smart enough to know that they know that all of the matters in the Western world, the Soviet Union, the United States, and Asia, the Japanese, and all the matters looking to, if you're in China, the United States, looking to the...

If China will be a military power, Japan will not be.

So what the hell does that mean?

Everybody wants to push for the military power.

That's a natural deal in trade.

In trade, not to go out, you know, you can't actually pull out sometimes an American trade.

If you go one step beyond that, I agree with everything you said.

If you go one step beyond that, what those tools will do is destroy our economic capacity to be a world where we're not going to be like a war.

We're an expert.

You will see.

You will not be able to sustain us.

The Japanese.

The deputies have a great number of reasons, very powerful security reasons.

Europeans don't have that.

Russians, I don't know.

I don't think we're going to play that kind of game.

We're going to play that kind of game.

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Thank you.

All the states would be very proud.

The only time they did not, was when Eisenhower put the other one in the British.

The end of the war was in 1966.

I didn't know if that was a state or another one.

Eisenhower, and I didn't know if he ever said this, but we should have turned it back.

It was an election, unfortunately.

to turn his back and have a liberation.

In fact, maybe he could have taken a lot of massacres and get rid of them.

And that would have created a new situation.

But he didn't.

He stopped the dead in the war.

He saved the massacres.

And, frankly, that resulted in a civil war.

Ever since then, everybody's been compensating.

In fact, the history of the relation between the United States and the U.S., except for that one little jigger in the Eisenhower community.

And Eisenhower, I must say, he was 11, 2, or 11, 2.

He was the only one who seemed to have a little more of a better view of what was happening.

All of the Truman years, all of the Kennedy years, all of the Johnson years, and

to our history, even in our years, we've just hit half of Israel.

And we've got to quit.

Because what is costing us, and I think costing us any chance

to follow the position of strength or influence among Israel's neighbors, particularly the Serb people they are, and possibly the United Syrians and Iraqis and the rest, but they all manage to be strong.

We've got a couple of friends, the Saudis and the Jordanians, looking around, but there isn't any way you can justify it.

People can say, well, it's the only democratic country on earth.

That's just nonsense.

What the hell difference does it make with the United States?

Who the hell is the next president of the United States of America if he knows goddamn farce?

He should know the tax treaty or something.

Well, that's wrong too.

So now, what I'm getting at is that that has to be fixed.

It has to be fixed.

We play a game regarding the silver.

We've got to make a deal with the silver.

Get the hell out of here.

And in time for Archie's new privilege.

And then after we get done with that, then we have got to move 100 into that major service.

Again, we've got to have good relations to get back that oil and all of that.

So I'm speaking in terms of law.

But you know, the Arab countries, interestingly enough, they don't want to have anything to do with the British.

They don't want to have anything to do with the Russians.

They don't want to have anything to do with the French.

But they'd all want to have something to do with the Americans.

But they don't like the Russians.

and how radical they are.

The Arabs, Muslims, and the like must do well.

But what the hell are we doing?

Here we are, sucking the Atari ship, and it's on a strong.

But anyway, if you realize, we have a situation where

Do you realize that every Democratic candidate, every one, has hung out four square for a total victory in the Republican Party?

Even Jackson.

And you see Muslims contributed.

What would you do, Mr. President?

Finance them all.

They'll all drive in and say, why don't you give it to us?

We've got a free accord.

But what the hell?

We can't do it.

The United States cannot continue to have

that we have our policies maybe corrupted by our ties to Israel.

Now, that doesn't mean that we want Israel not to train.

But it means Israel's got to get the hell out of the hospital territory.

And we give them a return, a guarantee.

Now, that's what it's going to be.

Building your world after them.

Well, I'd just like to forget I'm not speaking Nordic, and I'm not speaking Southern, but I think Central Africa is a wasteland.

And it's going to be a wasteland for a hell of a long time to come.

Europe doesn't have an interest in development.

They don't have an interest there.

And, you know, it's not that they care then, but maybe there are tremendous resources in the future.

I think we'd better, we'd better shore up our Latin American ties, as well as possibly change our ties with Japan.

And then, of course, the rest is still a free agency for the nations, of course.

And all that up to 300 million people to take them back.

And they're rich, but they should.

India and Pakistan ought to have a nice little policy for them to let them grow on their own and help them, you know what I'm saying.

The Mideast is rich with oil, so that's good.

And that's a good place.

I agree with you.

We're a decent nation.

We can't fight with our politics.

We've got to be honest with ourselves.

We're going to have to get to the point where we get back to the financial budget balance.

next question in order to do that we're going to have to just assume that we're going to have to cut the hell out of the world i understand some of those things maybe well i don't know how as little as possible coming up

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What this worry is going on, I just see it coming.

I don't want to worry you, but I feel like I ought to give you a much warning as I eat.

This thing doesn't look good.

I think we have to...

We have to approach it from two or three standpoints.

First, we have to be as strong as we can in the international field.

Secondly, I think we have to develop a policy on this on the home front, on this tax reform.

And I think we have residents of our city spoken about.

It's in the tax field, and the Treasury should build on that.

All I'm, I'm not volunteering for it, in the sense that I would, you know, I think maybe I'm part of it, but perhaps it would, but also when this happens, you know,

And we make another, we may indirect it back into another country.

Because if I take them on, I think they're going to have to take them on by name and number.

In other words, we're going to have to feed the government, we're going to have to feed mushrooms, we're going to have to feed cows, and so forth.

Because here's what they're saying.

Here's what they're trying to do.

They're trying to destroy America.

And if they don't mean it, along with it, eventually we'll get into it for them.

And then I'm pitting him.

As a Democrat, I'm pitting myself against Democrats.

And this in itself has connotations.

But all I've been doing over the last year, a little talk today, and all that serious stuff we've been doing, but nevertheless, it has connotations.

I'll tell you what I think.

I think the price of that product would be unbelievable.

I guarantee you this and that will take you to all of our social security and all of our education and all of this and all of that.

And then there's some of the legal problems that people come up with.

And that really has to be taken on by the people associated with this kind of program to get them active.

It will raise prices, raise prices for all American people.

And we've done hundreds.

How do we scare them?

The American people have got to get scared about them.

They've got to get scared about the giveaways.

What are we going to do with that?

What's going to cause that?

I think that's exactly right.

I think it's just a question of time.

I don't know.

No, no, no, not that.

I just see it on the horizon.

The candidates, they've got to talk about something.

That's right.

They're trying to develop an issue.

This is about the only thing they've come up on.

And they're all concentrated on community.

And they develop and they develop in a hurry.

Of course, the new inspectors have given plenty of leeway to write about it.

And they're writing that they're helping because

But it made it up quite rapidly.

We may have to have any political action, not necessarily an action on the economy.

And what orders we vote in the short and the long run is, you know, you just need a long, long set of rules.

And they build it up, talk about this and that, and that's a lot of people.

There's an old system, isn't there?

They are going to share the world.

And of course, if they ever commit,

Has it ever convinced you of anything?

This is the capital gain.

Let's just take that for one.

It's called ever-convincing, and it's in jeopardy.

Let's say you're $500,000 and start parking in 30 days.

You're going to get a little head-on, and that's all right.

But if they think capital gains are substantially in jeopardy,

Couldn't be more right.

Why do they let other people buy stocks from companies?

You know Dan well.

After all, you don't buy it, particularly even with the present interest rates.

You can get money, your money back in interest to the capital gains, and then when the stock market goes to hell,

It would be unbelievable.

That's right.

That's the real estate market, isn't it?

Oh, absolutely.

Real estate is the same as sell.

Same reason.

That's all.

Now, all I'm saying is that even though you may not be confronted with test finding and congregational jobs, you may have to respond as a political matter, as a psychological matter, prior to that time, just to try to shore up the confidence of the American businessmen, you know, to say, isn't that right?

And I sense this because some of the Democrats are talking to themselves.

I don't want to tell you some of the smart people, but they're probably going to say right now, it's a four-digit gap.

And this gap means it's going to be gone.

Is that right?

Damn right.

There's a Jewish out there.

That's right.

They say it's gone.

They have people next year who are going to say it's gone.

What's happening right now, this week, and if that keeps on, all I'm saying is, and then if you see the foreign exchange markets go to hell,

And they don't see us doing any of that anymore.

We see the deficit continuing.

And I'm afraid about it.

And this thing is accumulating.

I'm painting a darker picture.

And I think we're going to do plenty of good jobs.

But nevertheless, it's potentially there.

And so I don't know.

Well, it has to be.

It has to be fought.

We have to determine whether this country is still as good, and we've got to get people...

See, you have no spokesman to help you out.

You just don't have one.

See, you are not good right now.

But you can't pursue it right now.

And you've got other things to do.

And you can, you can stay on the federal line.

I can't, I can't be out there every time.

I've got to save the functions.

Yeah, that's right.

You might as well.

In April, I will be, I'll be, you see, I've, uh, I've been, I've been, I've been, I've been, I've been, I've been.

I feel that having helped others, and government, and other people, and also music, and music, the last couple of times, there is quite a lot of purpose.

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And we've got a case for him.

So I'm going to get rid of him.

I'm going to get rid of him.

He's going to pay for going to Moscow.

And I'll be in Moscow.

And I'm going to come back.

I'm going to come back in June.

After that, I'm going to get rid of him in July.

all their companies are president after president.

They've got to make sure they .

But you see, by being a little scarce,

I'm not in any position to hold this program because I understand it.

But I think the scheme of once a month going on, and now the questions are going to get tough, but I don't think there's any better way to handle it than that.

Now that, however, will only be, will supplement that with the speech thing.

And the speech thing is going to be done.

The speech action was always in the military.

The speeches in the military were not comprehensive.

It was not a big announcement.

But of course, you get to the election.

The major advice I'm going to have to use in a televised conference, which they have to carry,

And I just assumed also that he's done a really good job.

I'll just do these questions one at a time.

But it's your kid.

It's your kid.

that somewhere in the process you're going to have to, and maybe it's being done, as I told Bob this morning, I'm sure it is, but I just didn't know about it, that you're going to have to develop in the Congress, in the Republican American Committee, or in the Cabinet, or in all three, you really ought to have it in all three, some of them, and then some...

awareness of these problems and some ability to respond to them.

I don't know if you can let these fellows go through all this time making these issues so completely dominant in each league, day after day in each state.

Yeah, some response in some way.

Yeah.

And it may be a, it may be a truce for us going into Wisconsin after Wisconsin finally followed up to correct the record.

And maybe, maybe some other of us would all be thinking of some device that they have now as you lie.

Yeah.

We've got a free app soon.

In 90 days.

where they run just unabridged, saying, every human being in the world, you and everybody, have a precondition and a desire.

There was that night.

You can't respond to them, and you ought not to.

And nobody has to respond, except maybe one or two major cases.

Now, you get on the bus, it was a hell of a party.

And so it would have worked to man-to-man, well, try two different things that this does, whether it would be either way, go man-to-man defense after it was done, so you got some low-end aggression.

And you put a guy on as the surrogate to counter that man.

You rise.

You get your government man and your muskie man and your hungry man.

You rise.

That guy every day.

Or you go his own defense.

Or you go on some defense.

You have one guy that maybe that's more life-positive than the other.

First of all, I think that in fact, anything that comes into

Elliot Richardson, Bailey Wood, he answers.

But you get to direct answers to candidates on a direct, substantive basis, rather than the stratosphere.

I don't think you understand what we're talking about.

We don't know how those guys in the cabinet

I think it's, for that matter, maybe we should put a letter on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the,

You only have a week left.

Easter comes now.

Easter comes, and then you've got a week for what's to come.

I thought it was something about a week later.

Yeah, next season.

And you've only got a week today.

A week today is not a week.

And Easter, you're going to need to try, I guess.

Well, that's good.

Two days in Wisconsin, but the next big one may well be there.

Well, the next one will be in Pennsylvania.

That will be a hell of a primary because it will really be the make or break primary for us.

They can lose the election.

Can I tell you something?

Yes, sir.

Don't you prefer the iced tea?

Yeah, we can have some iced tea.

Isn't that iced tea?

Do you like that, sir?

I want you to get me some of that Chinese tea.

Let me ask you something, John.

How are we going to be able to get her to get through?

The president is committed, the chairman is committed, the clerk is committed, the procs are committed, the diocese, the five Republicans are committed, the diocese wanted to weigh in on the part of the U.S.

I'm not sure if they're still running into that.

So do you think they've got it now that Joe is still driving his Evo, that he wants to come up with a record to go back up to the Hill?

and talk to the chairmen and see if we can work out if they can pull over one day, if you have to do this, if the chairmen wants to do that, then go.

If they go, I'll deal with it.

We shouldn't do that, but it's very much everybody's got to work on that.

So if they pull over one day, and you go down this week, and they don't agree, they can just go over it, and that's the only thing you should do.

Well, I think the thing that's challenging is that we'll lose our votes, and that we very close accountable.

And the one problem we're dealing with is,

I have not been able to understand why we didn't do that a month ago.

We've been, for the time being, it's like an exchange of letters for the rest of the rights planning letter.

It says, could you give me the answers to these questions?

Dear Senator, I'd be delighted to hear the answers to these questions.

The answer is the personal letter.

And then the Senator says, may I use this information?

He says, of course.

Put it in the record.

In fact, isn't that what you've got to do?

Yes.

And it's worked out.

I think so.

Well, uh, in the name of God, we've come to do us a fine.

I see if you'll watch Steve's work.

What?

He wants to record it.

It's his whole problem.

They're considering it in his second year of session.

Sure.

And since he tried it, that's how they flew the dam on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, on, uh...

There's a lot of rockers in Watson.

Sure.

But he, he doesn't... Well, anyway, he was told he couldn't see that.

That's the way I asked for it, and I guess that's what we did.

That's what we did.

They can make all the notes they want in the recording.

Otherwise, you destroy a second script at the moment.

You have a guy going in the recording being able to go down to the concrete screen.

Next thing they'll say, why not have a television?

Well, now let's come to this and come again to what you said.

Well, the question is,

Let's talk about principle.

Well, let's put it this way.

We are circumventing the principle by allowing the fiscal year to drop by the Board of Affairs Committee and the Board of Relations Committee to see what we can do to fight it down.

And he then answers questions.

Now, as far as the White House is concerned, I've seen over the years where we always talk to members of Congress

The board, he doesn't.

I mean, the fact that we got, for us, all the answers, for us, we read them on the floor.

What do you think?

I think we'd better get a plan in.

There's a plan in a three-week meeting we made with Mr. Batchelor this whole thing.

And he's a perfect target because he's rich and caring and ruthless.

Well, Irvin's not after him on that thing.

He's Irvin's after him.

He's a perfect target for him.

I said, hey, listen.

Frank says, we were going .

I said, on the other side.

And I was asked to turn over this and that and the other one.

And Truman said, hell, Marlon.

He was right.

We got it out the other way.

But John Truman was right.

He was right.

He never allowed it.

Kennedy never allowed it.

Johnson never allowed it.

Who the hell could be president of this country?

And by the same token, I have no right, let's put it another way, as a president, to call down the balance of power in the point I'm going to make.

I can't call down a member of the Congress down to my office and say, look, here, I want to know the answer to this about the other thing.

Where did you get this information?

I have no right to understand it.

No I didn't.

I am not calling it war on murder.

Any member of the Supreme Court, the President of the United States, would have called him an offensive state state impeacher.

You understand?

That's what the balance of power is all about.

Anyway, on the other hand, this should be done.

Ryan Neal should make his damn statement and get that over with.

And also, the other thing is to get the two statements from those two jackass witnesses that Easter wants to go.

That's a compromise there.

In fact, we ought to get that.

And get those statements in the immediate, affidavits, answering the questions.

So we get those in so that we have those in the immediate.

Now, there's no good way to close the area.

We know that.

But we're in the box, John.

Here's the situation.

We're in the box where it's continually here.

It now becomes an increasingly clear area, simply being more and more references around it, and more and more things that need to be dragged in.

It's another thing.

There's a hell of a big fire in the woods.

They'll hate the fire.

They'll hate the sun.

That's why I would need everybody to come.

There's conversations with every capitalist, and conversations, you know, that we've talked to, the White House staff.

In fact, the only person in the goddamn government that didn't come to me, thank God, I was...

But you know what I mean?

And that's Miller.

That means that nobody was involved in talking to him.

But your name was an aggressive, corrupt guy.

And he came to see everybody, and everybody did talk to him.

He talked to them.

But there was no reason for him to hang on the case that everybody else did.

But you see, Your Honor, can you see what it is?

Oh, sure.

Secretary Coffin talked to him, and Secretary Peterson talked to him, and he was there in the White House in front of him in the office.

And I did talk to him.

Of course you did.

So did everybody else, the Vice President.

And who did?

Secretary Coffin.

Where did he talk to him?

In his office.

Well, he had to be right.

He said, yes, he'd see.

Yes, he'd see.

He said, when I was vice president of business, I used to come.

I mean, I talked to him enough to do that.

Well, sure.

But you can't say, go to hell and worship me.

But you'd catch on to that, too, wouldn't you?

So that was all.

Well, as a matter of fact, when I went to see the United Jewish Appeal, they had a B'nai B'rith.

They raised holy hell around here.

I'm not seeing that in our people.

I'd like to see that.

There were another one of those Jews in that office.

Never.

Not one.

That one.

No, never, never, never.

Well, I've had so many feelings, but I'm just not going to be broken by them.

Because, John, they're not words.

They're not the colors.

They're not the beauty.

Now, come on, but they're all the same.

It's just so different to me.

.

That's done, so the hearings are over.

So, where we were before they started was this, that I was, the question was whether my name was close to the floor.

Now, the majority leader announced today that he thought the hearings should go on for all other biblical evidence.

And I heard, basically, that he was opposed to closing the hearings.

And that's what the magistrate said.

And then he said, but if the hearings are closed, then he will accept any

So what you're looking at here is .

Well, uh, he, uh, our, uh, our vote count, George, I believe he could be brought to a vote, uh, in the loose time of all this, to be a part of the 50th of the debate, uh, over Leonard Scanlon.

Uh, uh, yeah, I'm certain.

Uh, but on the other hand, with this in prospect, there's no way he could, uh, because, uh, if he doesn't, well, then he, then he makes quite a slice of it.

taking pictures, letting the herring soar.

They got that herring to go on for a few days, another week.

And then after it got to the floor, they told us that it was an invention.

So we have a board sitting there.

And we sit there, and the other way around, just chop it off.

And here, Mansfield is going to hold it.

And then they'll never let it get to another position.

They'll never come to it again.

So under the circumstances of the Lippmann situation, we've had a man who cannot be confirmed as a defendant.

Now, he cannot withdraw at this time.

If he withdraws at this time, that would be, it seems, upon an admission of guilt that he withdraws, period.

And that would be freedom.

It was an attack that was not used as an attack as well.

As far as it's at, when the civilian committee votes for us, then, uh, that's the oldest statement.

It's the oldest line he's sent.

Oh, that's not true.

Well, it happens.

He goes on.

There's a point that he asked for the hearing.

Makes his whole case the obvious case.

They've become a farce.

They've been distorted, perverted, taxed the hearing.

Yeah.

Makes his case on the merits, which he said.

Right.

You know, there's been no connection to it, but the law.

Well, he makes a case in America.

He says, first, let's look at the substance of each other.

That IDT received favorable consideration.

It did not.

And then he gets destroyed by the law.

He says, now, let's go on for a case that they, that they didn't get favorable consideration.

In fact, got a goddamn tough sentence.

And he clearly demonstrated that by laughing at his stock.

He then said, now avoided, they've also made a charge of linking between some contribution and this bad seminar.

Well, of course, that falls in the same way the second there was no linking.

Then the third, he goes on to say,

Well, then he says that all that has been turned into a political football on the start.

We can't, it's harmful to the nation, it's harmful to the justice department, to being a normal world business.

He said our fight against crime, our fight against narcotics, I've got all these bussing interventions that I have to bear it on right now.

He said I, as Attorney General of the United States, we cannot have a plot like that with the Attorney General.

The Attorney General has to be confirmed.

We've got to have the Attorney General in the United States.

Therefore, I say now that this matter is now available to go to the Senate and be closed down.

If the Senate does not act with an up and down vote on my nomination facing either accepting or rejecting by April 15th, I will on that day request the president withdraw the nomination.

So you don't put him in the position of backing out himself by withdrawing.

He is demanding that he be given the right of the vote of the nomination he voted upon.

Say, there's been a month that they've been screwing around with it already, and his report is over.

Say, my name was submitted.

My name was submitted to the Senate by the president on February 20.

They're over two months.

Oh, March, yeah.

A month and a half.

It's been a month and a half.

He says, it's been here a month and a half.

He said, now, go on up.

And we graduated, and we've done all this important business, and we need to have this.

The administration has got to be made up a little bit more.

You want to rhetoric, but there's a problem.

I mean, the answer is to deal with it, because the Senate can't accept what the challenge is.

They can't allow somebody to accept it.

The Russian really job is this, and whether he should move that way or whether to get closer here, which is important to do for other reasons.

because frankly, any of them wouldn't do it.

I'd like you to hold your feet on that.

Nothing wrong with it, except it's doing media play.

The way they're reading it, the way they're looking at it.

They didn't supposedly even send it to John Connolly.

They won't say, well, now, it was Connolly on the board of the New York trust, and they have ideas.

You know, the goddamnedest thing they'll do.

You know, we just can't have it.

We're not going to have it either.

On this one?

We can't close it.

If we bail on that, then we still have good money to pay on that basis.

So the committee apparently intends to go on with this forever, so therefore I'm not going to leave my name out there and beat the law of justice and all that sort of thing.

So I still say, just blow it up or down.

You really only have three options.

One is you just put them in one course and keep fighting what you've been doing for a month.

Remarkable lack of success.

Or two, you play this game.

Or three, you simply withdraw the nomination, like today, and submit a waiver.

The third one, which I say, I don't want to preach.

I don't want to make that.

I mean, that's what it is.

and give the Senate the ultimatum that we're going to be asking the government to take it back on the ground and go on the road with the Senate, because there will be no longer an issue.

Oh, we think you should blast the shit out of them, and neither one of them is right.

But run your mind over it and let's see.

Let me put this, let us start with this proposition, John.

There is no way in the mind of the United States

because there's no way that the Democratic leadership, as big and bright as they are politically, will allow that to come to a vote for them.

And plus, somehow this ploy comes to some sort of a point, and I see how it ends, but I'll let you stay with that.

I'm honestly, I'm talking about what you just said.

We're not nervous.

We're just sitting and getting looked around by other voices that are trying to get control of us.

They say that all the time.

It's like it's, uh...

It's like, uh... We're here.

We're here.

Assume that you're right.

No point.

You say this and you can't break it.

Yeah.

This can't go on for three weeks.

No, this can't go on for six months.

You've seen John.

Before they did that, you see, I don't know.

That should be done before the commission.

Well, it's to close out here.

That's right.

Then you're going to get the charge.

You try to cover it up and then you pull it up.

I see.

Yeah.

No, no, I think, let's run it by, let's run it by our, let's run it by the committee.

The committee should close this area and vote like a majority vote.

That's what they, that's what they were saying to me, but that isn't what they want.

The committee's already voted to send this area to the court.

They haven't listened on that vote.

It was real for the hearing.

The vote is still on the Rappaport.

Oh, they're going closer here.

They're going all the way up here.

So let's all get to the other side.

You're already close.

They're going closer here.

Now back to the floor.

The thing is, I don't know whether, under my thinking, it's all clear.

I mean, mind the thing, your mind is full of heat.

rather than have it hanging there for another two weeks.

Well, what's the majority then to have the Senate hang back in court?

But I think, frankly, Pliny's just going to throw himself on the sword.

That's his sort of argument, but I can't tell you if I agree with it.

Well, that's just what I'm saying.

How do you believe that?

Well, for the simple reason that when he throws down the gauntlet, the Senate follows the 15th, I mean, April the 15th, well, obviously the Senate's not going to be there.

Right.

Even if they would come that way, it's not like I know that.

The press will inform them that.

The press will say, obviously the Senate can't submit to this kind of extortion.

It's extortion.

And they can't pay it.

The press is going the wrong way.

They say this is, we wouldn't yet, we would not get a sympathetic answer.

I think the press now, I think, on the other hand, you've got to count, looks like you've got over 52 to 38 that you could get into government as of today.

And you've got that and you believe that.

So it's not, so obviously that can't get out of the press.

But he just said, I'm not going to be a part of the football.

It's not fair to the president.

It's not fair to the justice department.

We know we have the votes to confirm.

So why let it be covered for another two weeks?

We don't need to say two weeks.

We can say a month.

You could say a month.

Yes.

And the point that you could make is that he would really crack Mansfield, or his, and say it.

Because he's urgent on this.

He should say it.

He has this shocking statement where he says that he doesn't have any evidence.

Despite the majority vote in the committee,

The worst?

No, the worst of what we said.

It goes here.

What will be said.

What is this?

It's to find the truth.

What truth?

The truth could not be confirmed.

And supposedly, it's a fear of evidence, but on the front of this book.

Right.

And that's true.

That's the way it's done.

And I think that's the price of the other side is a hell of a lot greater.

Well.

Yeah, you see, you continue to do it.

That's where I got that photo of that story that rocked there.

That's all over with, and everybody's listening to it.

It's very nice.

And I think that I can kind of figure out what to do about it.

I think we're going to grab them also, because I'm going to do that.

Now, how do I pick?

Wherever you send up, I will be able to follow you around.

I've got some bugs, too.

I've got a wound up there.

We're going to get a bite.

And we're going to find some of their things.

That's the band they have to have a lot of trouble with.

He just came and said, look, this is a nice guy.

Nice guy?

Well, I don't know who he is.

I don't know who he is.

There's a reason he'd be about that.

There's one other reason they're not listening.

I've got another idea.

He doesn't need to leave.

He's still with us.

I mean, he stayed over there.

And I wanted to serve him.

Yeah, no, he shows what a goddamn citizen he is.

He just served under no man.

I don't have to leave.

But I'm not going to leave if I'm going to be involved in football.

Obviously, that's what we're trying to make.

And I've done nothing wrong.

I go back and leave.

Back to my old job.

Far away.

Far away from reality.

The other side of this is that we're worried a hell of a lot more about this case than anybody out there in the country.

So we're up to this point now.

Is anyone aware of the circuit?

That's right.

But it will pick up.

And they just keep hammering and hammering.

You know, the thing about it, John, is that it's going to be solid right now.

I don't know if it's going to be solid.

Nobody's ever claimed that the planet has got anything, or Franklin, or Paul, or Klein, or Mitchell, or anybody else.

I mean, not even a free dinner.

So that is one of the reasons why Supreme doesn't catch on that much.

Other than the media distortion, there's no point even for the Republican Party.

We had to go right into the campaign for the president.

But then they were out of our minds.

And also $400,000?

I mean, we're going to be crooked.

They also know what they had here is more than a good story.

They don't think it's the field of darkness they need to support their job, particularly in the following years.

They're forging this link between the wonderful, this big, this is the reason, the reason why a story, we need to get the story, frankly, stopped as soon as possible, is the repetition of the story.

is that it can eventually have a great effect.

Now, it's been repeated long enough.

It's been repeated for a long time now.

And my view about the client is that if he's going to do it, he ought to cut it off clean and get it done.

And then, so they'll say, well, wasn't it too bad to find these, what was wrong with finding these?

But let's take that true, though.

How long can they play that, and how long would it be to keep that alive?

He met something when I met him.

So I suppose that Cline Peace, Cline Peace said to me, I, uh, knew of the drug that you were using, the drug that you were using, and that he felt like you, that he could go about you, and so forth.

And, uh, I am not going to do it.

I am going to go on my own.

How long?

It'll be headlines for the day ahead, and trying to make sure they're cuffed, and they're white-collared, but following Sunday news, and that's about it.

Thank you.

Well, we have followed that.

We have followed that.

But if they reopen it, the other area is quite a big case.

Yes, sir.

Because then the linkage done isn't a question to the .

It's a question of the merits of the settlement.

Now, the merits of the settlement, if you're damn right about it, to the government.

So if they want to fight it out in the Anti-Trust Subcommittee, I think that's pretty daft.

I suppose that that is the problem.

If you knock these things off, then it's hard for you to do it.

The case now doesn't matter about Blank.

He could be your fellow.

The question now is whether Leslie Markey went into big business.

He's got a black man around.

Well, I, of course, I'd kill to see this happen.

If it's going to happen, and I suspect you're right, is it not about me?

I don't know.

There was a gift to the convention.

There was a settlement of the case.

The two took place within a couple weeks of each other.

Something's going on.

Anything, you just need to learn that.

Those are all facts.

You don't need to learn them.

You have to learn them.

He was born, actually, five years after he was born.

He was born.

then I'm not sure I'm good, because we at least have each new chairman of the board, new chairman of the board, so it's a subject of our decision.

There's no reason, it's unreasonable for the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, there's some question whether Hartley wants to do that, and there's some question as to whether he could, because Hart says he thinks they have to have a theory of the whole, of the whole, to set up the subject.

They probably couldn't get the whole committee votes to vote in the Senate.

The whole committee would have to vote in the House.

They would have to vote in the House.

The House would have to vote in the Senate.

I suspect it would.

I don't think the rest of them will be there.

They've never moved.

I don't know what they did.

They've probably got some more evidence in Milwaukee.

That's the point.

This has become a whole story.

And I want to say it's time for it to work.

And on that basis, you can make... See, there are many of them.

There are some of the individuals I haven't talked to.

Which would be...

You're wrong in saying we can't be confirmed.

In looking home, the question is not whether we can be confirmed, it's how long we have on the way.

And, to close off, personally, I know that if you pass the same stuff around the Senate or the House, you might as well ride this one out to your 90% and put up an outtake of the other 90% and put your attorney general up and come out with an opinion.

Because all this crap becomes washed away when the Senate rolls through the front lines of the Senate and the House.

It's true.

That's the argument.

It's not true.

It's all the same.

It's one thing.

That really is the problem.

I don't know.

I'm inclined to think, though, that there are a lot of ideas that you consider to be true.

The idea of finding slaves, I don't know, that made it to the Senate.

It was done before.

It was only going to keep it alive.

It was an all-embracing story of Jews, and then you had to take someone out.

And I don't know.

If you're going to go, if the Senate decides to get the hell out, you've got to put it on a sharp front.

What do you think?

I don't know.

Now, this two weeks or three weeks or a month, we haven't heard from the Senate, no.

That's right.

Can you say that?

It was one of the times that it was available to the press.

The press was down by the incredible arrogance of those at the Senate that never responded.

I never responded.

Well, this was a shot.

That's right.

That's correct.

So I'd either let it hang for a month, and then if I can't get it out, or he gets out.

But if he's going to get out, unless you're going to ride this thing through some hell or high water, then I'd expect him to get out right now.

There are as many as that.

Yeah.

If he enters the elevator, he can't blast the center.

No, because he's presumably still depending on their grace.

Whereas if he withdraws his name, then he can go as hard as he wants on the center.

Let's think about this a little bit for a second.

One possibility.

and then the senator sits there, and he goes and chants a couple of words, and just let her ride.

And then, at the end of the lecture, of course,

or if you bring it to life and then they have a long co-op and then as you have a little bit of a wheelchair you have more co-op factors you can't really talk to them

Yeah.

Well, there's a hell of a difference.

If the committee closes down in March, then what if you arrive to the Senate for a month or two months or two months or six months?

It's really so bad because the Senate can't do much with it.

When you go to the Senate floor, you don't have that problem.

And so that way, of course, Jack Anderson stopped at that time.

I don't know what, for example, we're doing in that respect.

I don't know what we're doing in that respect.

Maybe there's something to be said.

I don't know.

I don't know what the grandstands play.

I think the grandstands play is going to get it out.

It's a little tough.

All right, let's play it out.

Let's play the scenario off.

Let me close the hearings.

Then what happens is that, you know, right ahead of course, what I want to think, the committee code here, the White House version of the code here, and then on the other hand here, I wonder if we'll get an armistead to have the best of the issues.

Yeah, the other point is

Thank you.

I don't know.

That's right.

That's going to happen in Dartmouth.

And at least we're planning to instill it in us, and we've been carrying on for months, and then they have to really start filibustering.

At least if we can get some support in the Senate.

If you withdraw it, you have to meet another attorney.

That's right.

And you have to go through another set of hearings, which may not turn out any better.

You never know.

20 men in the world, you don't know what they did.

20 men after all.

It was hard.

But all of us have a knuckle.

So I get to go there and do anything.

Live for it.

Well,

Here's one other part of it.

If he stays in there, if he stays in there, if you're in the center, if you're farther, farther away from the higher authority, at least he's attorney general.

You've got an attorney general here.

You've got an attorney general who's got this.

And he's always going to stand up to a little bit of all of them.

And I think he won't.

He won't stand up to any attorney general.

But that is really not going to make any difference.

So every damn one of them was guilty of something.

But it's nothing but a violation of the election law.

That's right.

They're damn sure guilty of that.

And he just set out.

He set out.

He called it in.

Of course, that's what he owed them.

And there's a hell of a lot to be said for leaving him right there.

And that's that.

One of them is a good one.

I like it.

I think you've got a bunch of .

That's right.

If you don't think the hearing stops you.

Well, sometimes .

The only way you think you can turn off the hearing is just remind you to turn it off.

And that is almost essential.

I think the hearing won't stop.

Then I can find .

I think that may be .

They do not really consent to that shame, but they are exposed, in a sense, to all jobs.

Believe me on that.

So let them swale them, but a lot of people also live in poverty.

It's just like they're closing up.

Move forward.

As far as jobs are concerned, I don't think they're a bad thing, of course.

I don't think they're a good thing.

There are other things that people don't know about that.

They don't believe in it.

I mean, I know a lot of countries who believe in it.

They don't believe in it.

But anyway, I think that one each branch .

And unless the hearings were changed, then to kill Jader, then he's got to move up.

So either one of them will, either the committee will stop Jader or find Jader.

Many of you have brought this up.

No, I think he did say, well, it's obvious that my confirmation has become a major political issue.

And you have a witness in the hospital bed who the doctors say can't be heard for six months.

Obviously, this is going to keep this thing over for another six months through the campaign.

All right.

This guy's already here, so he's going to put a hold on that.

That's right.

They're finished.

The judge says he's not going to bring up the confirmation.

So I see no use in purging, he said.

It's just embarrassing to my family.

Regardless of having done nothing wrong, it's a certain harm to the Justice Department.

It does not serve the president.

I see no purpose to be served except the politics of the opposition.

And I don't see why I should serve him.

I'm going to leave this.

I have the president to work it all out.

I think that makes sense.

Otherwise, Mr. President, I think I'd go.

I'd go with, hell, if you don't hear me tomorrow, let me accept that.

Let him sit there.

Damn right.

And he always, he always got that in him.

You don't back off of that.

Well, let's see.

You don't back off of that.

Then he's got power.

He's got guts.

He's not, he's not that worried.

If you go on and do the things you ought to do, I'm sure you will.

And he's going, you know, and he's mentally conditioned.

He's going as if he were coming in.

And then something comes up, and he will record any day.

And he has to be, he has to be in that posture.

He said he was going to serve as a church, and I think when he came home, he was afraid to make a decision.

He was afraid that Mars gave this guy all that out, and then he ought not to.

No, I couldn't be Mars.

He's got to be there, and he's got to be tough and strong.

He's got to laugh about it.

He said, I'm going to be the longest-serving active church.

As a matter of fact, you know, a long-time commanding officer.

No, it's not going to hurt.

Because of the big business.

But let me say that that's going to be an issue.

No question about it.

That's going to be an issue.

We're going to have to fight it through all this work.

It just gives them a little more.

It's just too bad that on this one, though, I couldn't hear anybody raising their hands.

I was just talking about the Senate.

I said, I don't know about the Senate.

The solution is to move on to the Senate, but then they're going to go to the White House.

The White House is going to leave people in the White House and the administration will talk to them.

You're here for that person.

You're here to serve.

You don't go where you are.

You listen to anybody because you're the only act in the public.

I don't think there's much additional damage.

If you get a hearing.

That's right.

Then you would say...

They never like to go on TV.

They can't go on TV every night.

Yeah.

And if they go...

If they stay open, they can't.

They have to really do a... Each one of them is writing some good names.

To do a situation.

Yeah.

If they hold, well, there's one other possibility.

If they keep the hearings open, I'm working in this building.

Then you have client teams.

And you have McLaureen say, we want these hearings to be conducted properly.

We're being castigated, we're being crucified by a rumor, by an email, by a hearsay, and we want to accept our constitutional rights as a claim.

And we want to be here, we want to be represented by a council, we want everyone to be accepted across the foundation, and we want to proceed in accordance with the custom of this thing.

It dates back to the time of the Joe McCarthy era.

This was back this year and back here.

And we're lucky to have him with God all the time.

And when he was fixing his head up, it was on the beginning of the war.

Now, I'm hardly truly aware of where he was investigating Congress, or those charges against Congress.

Then, the committee did allow, they did allow the special counsel to come in and question the law.

But, you know, all that sort of thing, you know, they, maybe, it might be a good study at this time.

If you can't close it, then my point is, you might as well put it on the other side.

It builds it up.

But you're a televisor.

Oh, you're a televisor.

Well, I think you're a televisor.

I was going to say, though, it may be that you have to, I think this, John, I am confident that if they vote, if they vote to continue to do it,

But I just think that the hearings have to be meaningful for the committee, for the parties, for all these men.

The committee for these men is, let the goddamned press screw them up and expose them all.

We don't cover it up and plan to serve them.

They're trying to say they just can't get through, and that's the problem.

So they are trying to prove it.

It's not a practical example, but it's not really that bad.

It'd be interesting to see how they must act.

Well, there you go.

Let's begin with Paul.

I want to talk to John Chancellor again.

I don't know if they want to demonstrate the fact that we're in jail.

You know, they should think we're going to something like that.

I always think, they said they don't know yet how.

Well, I guess he's the same thing as the same thing as the thing you've been doing for a long, long time.

You have to grab on to something.

That's what we'll come to.

It's very important not to have too high a profile.

I'll tell you why.

It's because

But what if you had one good, strong, tough senator on that committee that's all started?

Nobody in the White House would have to do a goddamn thing.

But you'd have got one good, tough, strong, consistent senator to do the job.

And there's no majority leader who's a strong, tough, consistent guy.

That's it.

Arrest him.

He's a sweet, wonderful guy who's not smart enough.

He's a rat.

He isn't, of all this, going to take charge.

You need to take charge, man, of a goddamn committee like I took charge of the committee.

I was the freshman on the dance.

And basically, others have done it, too.

But a man, you've got to have somebody around.

I haven't done it.

None.

But one guy, that's a couple of them.

That's the reason the White House people are running down there all the time.

Also, we've had a problem because we just don't have all of them.

They don't know how to handle them.

But even, for example, Godwin, the confirmation of the Supreme Court, that he lost the cars all over the other country.

Last year, he ran this powerful column.

He had to run it down.

We have a problem.

We get back to your point about leadership.

You mentioned the House and the Senate.

There are a goddamn few leaders in this country.

I mean, I mean, with a group of businessmen.

I mean, there's this armistice vote with Jack, Jack McCoy, and Hillary, Northstrap, Bill Strang.

And I was

incredibly impressed by it, because they were so soft, so gladly, so nothing, in terms of what this country is.

There's nothing there that establishes, you know.

Now there is something.

You go up to the Middlesex Club and you're getting out, and then, you know, I mean, there's some good underneath.

There is some strength built up in the country.

But in terms of leadership,

leadership.

Right now, in all areas, we'll look across the country, best looking governors.

Who are the two top governors in the country?

Reagan and Barack Obama.

And Reagan is going to come up.

He's on the down side.

Right?

Who the hell else do you think is the top duck smith?

No.

Smith?

No.

They're not a goddamn one.

Smith is a crook.

And look at their old people trying to save them.

This horrible fellow in Pennsylvania, he's unbelievable.

And that little demagogue and...

And in Ohio, Gilligan, the redheaded bastard.

Good God, what a bunch.

And the new ones down in the South, why, look at that fellow in Florida.

I want to ask you, who's a very decent fellow, but what happened is, the Eastern media came down to cover the border.

Here's a man who knows the border, not Southern Florida.

Here's a man who couldn't have more disbelieved the president.

So he gets taken in.

And he got written up, taken to the media, and so forth.

Well, he came out on the wrong side of the issue.

And now he is better than Chelsea Thompson.

But he thought he couldn't be vice president.

Oh, yeah.

So I looked across the country at Jimmy Carter.

Good God, what a sad loss we've got.

If it really was true, it would be both parties.

Oh, Christ, the Republicans were hopeless.

We've got to fight it.

I go to the Republicans.

the drinking problem.

Well, one of the best ones is this little guy, Nestor, apparently the doctor's a tough conservative in a liberal state who was so made in gold.

So not that that's not bad.

That, well, he's lucky.

He's the dentist.

And he's standing up pretty good.

But when we talk about leadership, when we talk about leadership at the present time,

The Senate bill is actuarially insured.

The House is an actuarially indemnified side with both, as you know, both of these top ten or six men.

They just can't be done.

On the Republican side, Ford is the only man that has followed the leadership of people who could be possessed and gone.

We've come down to that in comparison.

Some of them are getting out there and they want to leave the charge.

Isn't this the problem?

Yes, sir.

I told the board, I said, Jerry, give me a list of 10 top, 10 of your 10 best young men in the House of Representatives, Republicans.

You have a list of young men.

Brown, Mohawk, 45 years.

Roy, Jim Roy, North Carolina, 44.

Al Cederberg of Michigan, 54, 54.

Good job.

Edgar Whiskey of Illinois, 45.

Edwards, Alabama, 43.

Erlin Barn of Illinois, 45.

Fry of Florida, 38.

Jack Kent of New York, 36.

Kyle Lyle, 52.

Michael of Illinois, 49.

Clea of Minnesota, 48.

Stuyvesant of Wisconsin, 43.

And then he mentions the other ones, the ones that are presently in the leadership.

John Anderson and Bill Martin, I think.

Barbara Connelly from New York City, I think he's the governor.

Bob Virginia, he returned to Louisiana.

Rose of Arizona, I think he's alive and happy to be my co-leader.

Wilson of Baltimore, I think he's my co-leader.

But anyway, what I'm saying is that that list brought home to me, and I was trying to do it, I don't know if it was in the experiment,

because we can paniclessly think of what the hell we've got to work with.

The only three that even start to meet your qualification are Stryker, Fry, and Kemp.

None of the three leaders are going to be giving up.

Well, Stryker could have it.

He just may be too much of a baby for us.

Kemp isn't smart.

He's a wonderful, tough, strong guy.

Who's the other one?

Fry.

Fry?

The whole point is that the period of leaders, I think that something has happened in this country.

God damn it, something about the educational system, something about the media, something about, I don't know what it is.

that we have seen in the last 10 years, some way.

Maybe we, maybe we have done more things before now.

Something's, something's going on in business today.

I mean, but I think the world knows the grave.

captains of industry that are strong, balls out, and Jesus Christ.

I was in the president's office the other day, and I impressed people with that.

probably a very good man, but he's a guy who came up through the chair.

The new president of the US, he was a great man.

He came up through the chair.

I mean, that nice guy, I thought he was a great person.

He was a very professional man.

But the need, the need to come, damn it.

I mean, if you come down to it, if you really come down to it, the sad thing about finding these things is that in our head, he's one of the new men who has the potential always for strength.

He's a strong one.

You've got to see how he's woven God.

Articulate God.

He can do it.

And except for you and finding these things,

Well, anyway, there you are.

As far as the others, they're .

And Richardson is the smartest one, though.

But leadership, it just isn't there.

Drivers won't step up to them unless it's as safe as it can be.

layers that will step on both sides of the equation.

You know what I mean?

It's a thing, John.

It's really worried you about the time of this.

What the hell's going on?

Yes, sir.

You've got to look around.

You've got to look around at what this government's going to be.

And I can tell you this.

Who knows whether we survive?

And we do survive, John.

We survive.

We've got to go through.

We've got to build.

I do think, I do think that Kevin, believe me, that can't be in the wheat system.

No, I'm not in that wheat system.

I'm not sure you didn't last this year.

Wrong.

You mean by change Kevin?

Yeah, I'm not sure.

Yeah, I'm not sure you didn't last this year.

No, I don't want to lose Kevin.

I don't.

I'm not sure you didn't lose Kevin.

I'm quite sure you didn't lose him.

I understand.

I think you bet you lose him.

around this world and in this country.

And we so desperately need the leadership in this country that held and played a critical role.

I hope that it will be too late.

Sometimes that sounds like a hell of a stupid statement, but I've been part of it.

There's just so little leadership in this country.

And there's so little confidence in this country that you may have to do it.

You may have to do a lot of things before, not just to win the election, but to restore some to be able to govern.

That's why you have to be able to govern.

Listen to faith.

Build some spirit back into you.

This could be one of the kind of things that's really important.

Hell.

I almost shot a spirit with one.

You don't like it.

Somebody likes it.

I don't like it.

On the other hand, there was this idea of being coached above the battles and doing what you want to do.

So-called.

Get down there and start a name call.

Right.

Dead.

But on the other hand, you see, these fellows are out in the custom.

They're selling every day.

They're selling.

They don't buy each one of them.

But in total, they have a lot of people that buy them.

Some of them have a lot of coat.

You can buy the waters, you can buy the fish, you can find that in the shade, in the pool.

And you're seeing people in heaven, home, and so forth.

But you don't even have a contest.

You don't swear on me.

You don't care if I'm deaf or cheating.

You don't have anybody fighting against you particularly.

You don't have anybody fighting for you.

And this is the client that you're trying to fight for.

This is the client that you're trying to fight for.

You're trying to prove that you're on the right path.

I just can't.

Hold him away and kill him.

Let me say, he calls eagles.

Let me say that all that score, I'm just saying.

I don't know that, but I'm assuming that if you close the area.

I think you can close it.

You can check this route.

You better open it.

That's right.

And then, they let it go.

Because then, so they go on and demand that people don't bring it up.

We've got the border.

The term's already set.

Everybody wants to take that.

You can take that in a cell tower.

That's all there is.

In the park.

In the sun.

He's got a full beard.

He's a son of a boxer.

Oh, Christ!

Am I slow today?

I thought you were talking about black and white.

I didn't hear you.

Well, let's get a hold of that ball.

Oh, I'll take it.

Yours, we've got it.

But you'd sort of stick with my niece, did you?

We've got the hearing report.

Yes, I will.

Thank you.

Because you see, what John saw, and what I saw in the office this morning, I just said it's too obvious a point.

It's an obvious point.

If he says, well, I won't do it, why?

Plus, it does do a .

It does keep it going at a higher level.

.

Now then, when I go on a press conference in two, three weeks, they ask me a lot about Mr. Coyne's knee service.

I'll say to the Senate, that's up to the Senate.

And I think the Senate should give him a vote, up or down.

Well, there you go.

I don't mind it.

Yeah.

Why, Senator, you said I have two reactions.

Number one, as far as I'm concerned, the Justice Department will go a very hard, tough far track.

All right.

And number two, I know I'm not a good man in Richard Coyne.

Wait just a second.

Huh?

It's rather important, uh... that we spread the, uh...

I mean, for example, you sit around.

I've got nothing like the...

Colson, obviously, is.

Well, he had a majority of people on this side.

Well, terribly.

But I'm not sure it's right.

But I wanted to try it out on comedy, because I know that his reaction will be the best reaction of the other person.

And I think he's right.

I just think that client piece is horrible.

Let me say, it's a brilliant PR, but that's the trouble with it.

Well, it is really false.

It doesn't really do what we want to do.

I know, but it's thought up.

It's a gimmick.

Yeah, that's the point.

Gimmickry, I don't... You really come down to it, Bob.

Gimmickry, a great major investor involved, just doesn't say unless you have the press with you.

When you've got the press against you, they will kill you even when you're not gimmickry.

But you know, it's like us.

Every time I do anything, they'll say, oh, Christ, he's doing this for political purpose.

And I think we're in a good position.

Let me ask you about the closing of the hearings now, sir.

I'm going to be able to handle that.

No, they're doing it.

As far as they can, the closing of the hearings.

No, what I meant is,

and how to deal with it.

There's no way, there's really no way that I could... ...get it closer to the...

But I can see it, and if not, it's probably down the line.

I think it would be a pretty good sweep from the Senate, and it would be a...

And as far as the Washington Post is concerned, they will anyway.

Well, the Post is just so delighted to have this back.

They're about to go out.

It isn't the dark cover-up.

That's always a humble cover-up.

Hearing some data holding public hearings for a while.

I'm kicked around from every room for it.

I don't know if you discussed it before, but I did not know.

I don't think that's something I could have said.

I don't think that's just a little description.

They call it what they want.

They cover up any questions that concern justice in the area for a long time.

They cover up any issues.

What the hell is this?

Is it Democratic control committee that turned off the hearings?

No, I think they just, I think they got it with the hearings turned off.

figured off and get into a three-day outline it's a good time to do it before easter

As long as you need us, we'll work for you.

But, uh, you gotta make sure we spend as much time as we can.

We love you.

It cuts both ways.

That's assuming that if people want to hear that and like what they hear, then it's having a bigger effect than it may not be.

It's having a really strong .

OK. Newtow Coastal and a greater wing of the Coastal .

It will not work to have him do it.

Aren't you convinced of that now?

Yep.

This is a bad idea.