{"conversationCode":"328-019","tapeNumber":328,"conversationNumber":19,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-328-019","startDateTime":"1972-03-29T20:07:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-03-29T20:15:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Mar-1972","startTime":"3:07 PM","endDate":"29-Mar-1972","endTime":"3:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); MacGregor, Clark; Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On March 29, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Clark MacGregor, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:07 pm to 3:15 pm. 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How'd you get along with your, uh, Southerners today?"},{"start":22.02,"end":22.12,"text":"Good."},{"start":22.14,"end":26.97,"text":"How many people came, Clark?"},{"start":26.99,"end":27.67,"text":"You know, some House members only?"},{"start":27.69,"end":27.81,"text":"Right."},{"start":27.83,"end":27.93,"text":"Good."},{"start":30.41,"end":58.97,"text":"Good, good, good."},{"start":58.99,"end":59.45,"text":"Bert will be all right."},{"start":62.48,"end":83.82,"text":"Sure."},{"start":83.84,"end":84.08,"text":"That's good."},{"start":84.1,"end":84.2,"text":"Good."},{"start":84.22,"end":84.32,"text":"Good."},{"start":84.34,"end":84.44,"text":"Good."},{"start":84.46,"end":85.06,"text":"I got the report this morning."},{"start":85.08,"end":85.62,"text":"Back on."},{"start":92.71,"end":120.85,"text":"Maybe from playing their game."},{"start":120.87,"end":120.97,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":120.99,"end":121.64,"text":"So it's the first time that they"},{"start":122.38,"end":148.75,"text":"What happened?"},{"start":148.77,"end":149.41,"text":"They hear it's been aimed today."},{"start":149.43,"end":149.53,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":149.55,"end":151.32,"text":"But the fight is now that you mean the Republicans may not stand up on termination here."},{"start":151.34,"end":151.44,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":152.94,"end":176.75,"text":"That's not the issue now."},{"start":176.77,"end":177.97,"text":"We can't go now."},{"start":177.99,"end":178.43,"text":"We can't have clients."},{"start":178.45,"end":179.49,"text":"He doesn't have the provocation to do anything."},{"start":179.51,"end":180.75,"text":"So he's got to have a vote before he can do anything."},{"start":180.77,"end":180.87,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":180.89,"end":180.99,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":181.01,"end":181.47,"text":"I think there's sort of"},{"start":185.6,"end":208.9,"text":"The very fact that you're going to, the very fact that you're going on for a week, I mean going off for a week, that's good, you know what I mean?"},{"start":208.92,"end":212.73,"text":"There's a certain tendency, Clark, that I remember, too, of these things, where they've almost got the entire, you know what I mean?"},{"start":213.06,"end":233.73,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":233.75,"end":233.96,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":233.97,"end":234.18,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Clark MacGregor to debrief on a recent meeting with Southern legislators and gauge the support of House Republicans. 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The President emphasized the strategic importance of managing these political relationships and maintaining momentum during the upcoming legislative recess.","topics":["Legislative relations","Republican Party unity","Southern congressmen","Political strategy","House of Representatives"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T15:16:45.185Z"},"topicSlugs":["legislative-relations","republican-party-unity","southern-congressmen","political-strategy","house-of-representatives"],"audioDurationSec":234,"audioFiles":[{"file":"328-019.mp3","bytes":9381946,"durationSec":234.4,"bitrate":320197,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:41.569Z","transcriptGapSeconds":171,"transcriptGapShare":0.73,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/328-019.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/328-019","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/328/conversation-328-019","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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