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Conversation 329-026

TapeTape 329StartTuesday, April 11, 1972 at 2:45 PMEndTuesday, April 11, 1972 at 2:55 PMTape start time01:43:10Tape end time01:46:53ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ziegler, Ronald L.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AudioNARA Description

On April 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:45 pm to 2:55 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 329-026 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 329-26

Date: April 11, 1972
Time: 2:45 pm - 2:55 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

     The President's meeting with Michael J. Mansfield and Hugh Scott
          -Announcement
          -Mansfield's and Scott's trip to People's Republic of China [PRC]
               -Bipartisan mission
               -The President's approval
               -PRC policy
               -Report to the President
          -The President's letter to Chou En-lai
               -Public statement
                      -Personal message
                      -Mao Tse-tung
                           -Possible meeting with Mansfield and Scott

     Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's call to Ziegler
          -Return call
          -Constance M. Stuart
          -Speeches
                -Ziegler's handling
          -Trip
                -Use of White House staff
                     -Secretaries

Ziegler left at 2:55 pm.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

I don't think there's any problem.
I don't think we want to say this is actually a mission, but we can say that they are
It's a bipartisan mission, and obviously we're both having the right to do it.
But it has the approval of the President, and the President, as does the President's meeting, as does the President's meeting for the House, because we consider that our China policy is one that has brought a bipartisan approval.
And they are going, for example, on a government plan.
And we will expect to get a report from them when they return.
But no special message or anything?
They will take.
I think you should just, I think, yes, we're going to send, I'll send, I'll send a letter to Henry.
I'm going to send a letter, obviously.
Well, what I would just say, the personal message in regard to Well, he will send a personal note.
to the, what is it involved, and so forth.
I'm having a discussion with the leaders.
What do they say about .
We're trying to keep .
That's a good story.
OK.
Mrs. Mixer called me yesterday, and I'm going to call her back and see what I've learned about economy.
But economy, I've thought about this, and I don't know where I would think about it.
I think two things.
There's really no need for it, but there's no harm.
And I have no objection to Chief coming back and maybe kind of come back and make some speeches.
Yes, you'd like to talk, but you'd better come back to Chief and make some speeches around it.
I thought what a great job Mrs. Mixer did.
But you control it.
You have to control it.
I promise you not to go with the spam.
I promise you to go with it.
That's what you do.
I didn't just say she could use our spam.
You see what I mean?
Right.
That's what this is.
There's no need for any spam.
Just say we're going with very,
No, I don't know.
But I think it's a good thing to have her go on.
I agree.
We're having several going on.
We're either going to the first day and then talking about it right back.
Well...
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