{"conversationCode":"329-028","tapeNumber":329,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-329-028","startDateTime":"1972-04-13T18:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-13T19:00:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Apr-1972","startTime":"1:30 PM","endDate":"13-Apr-1972","endTime":"2:00 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:30 pm and 2:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 329-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 329-28\n\nDate: April 13, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 1:30 pm and 2:00 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     Materials\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Meeting with unknown persons\n               -Press\n                      -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins\n\n     Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Meeting with Lt. Gen. Vernon A. Walters\n               -Time\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 2:00 pm.","filename":["329-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:47:49","tapeEnd":"01:50:03","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"329-027","nextCode":"329-029","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":18.04,"text":"I didn't know if you wanted any or none of this material."},{"start":29.19,"end":35.54,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":35.56,"end":35.66,"text":"The ."},{"start":35.68,"end":56.22,"text":"You can't do that with an ."},{"start":56.24,"end":56.82,"text":"I don't know why."},{"start":56.84,"end":56.94,"text":"Four."},{"start":57.73,"end":77.86,"text":"He's just going to stay on the bridge."},{"start":77.88,"end":79.72,"text":"He's going to stay on the bridge."},{"start":79.74,"end":80.48,"text":"He's going to stay on the bridge."},{"start":80.5,"end":81.52,"text":"He's going to stay on the bridge."},{"start":81.54,"end":82.2,"text":"He's going to stay on the bridge."},{"start":82.22,"end":82.88,"text":"He's going to stay on the bridge."},{"start":82.9,"end":83.56,"text":"He's going to stay on the bridge."},{"start":84.02,"end":106.43,"text":"I'll go there."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate his daily agenda and logistical details regarding upcoming appointments. The discussion focused on scheduling arrangements for meetings with press photographer Oliver Atkins, First Lady Pat Nixon, and Lt. Gen. Vernon A. Walters. The pair finalized the sequence of these engagements to ensure the President's schedule remained organized throughout the afternoon.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Stephen B. Bull","Oliver F. Atkins","Pat Nixon","Vernon A. Walters"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T15:21:01.281Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","stephen-b-bull","oliver-f-atkins","pat-nixon","vernon-a-walters"],"audioDurationSec":115,"audioFiles":[{"file":"329-028.mp3","bytes":4619285,"durationSec":115.34,"bitrate":320391,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:41.569Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/329-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/329-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/329/conversation-329-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}