{"conversationCode":"329-039","tapeNumber":329,"conversationNumber":39,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-329-039","startDateTime":"1972-04-15T17:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-15T17:27:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Apr-1972","startTime":"12:25 PM","endDate":"15-Apr-1972","endTime":"12:27 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Arbuthnot, Raymond J.;","description":"On April 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Raymond J. Arbuthnot met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:25 pm to 12:27 pm. 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(President)","Arbuthnot, Raymond J."],"prevCode":"329-038","nextCode":"329-040","transcript":[{"start":0.13,"end":4.14,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":5.68,"end":6.68,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":6.7,"end":14.01,"text":"Ray, I just learned about Zelda."},{"start":14.03,"end":15.31,"text":"I was up in Canada that night."},{"start":15.33,"end":24.36,"text":"Well, we just were sorry to hear about it, but I knew she'd been sick, and Pat and I wanted to send our best to you and tell old Ray to keep his daughter up."},{"start":24.38,"end":27.01,"text":"Of course you will."},{"start":27.03,"end":28.69,"text":"You like that old farm, don't you?"},{"start":29.46,"end":50.04,"text":"Everybody tells me, I was talking to somebody the other day, he said, you know, I don't know what he knew."},{"start":50.06,"end":51.74,"text":"And he said he really loves that ranch."},{"start":51.77,"end":53.09,"text":"Well, anyway, we had a lot of it."},{"start":53.11,"end":53.57,"text":"Don't worry about it."},{"start":53.65,"end":53.97,"text":"Things are fine."},{"start":53.99,"end":55.71,"text":"Don't worry about the nuts."},{"start":55.73,"end":58.31,"text":"We're going to keep kicking those damn North Vietnamese, I'm sure you know."},{"start":58.33,"end":58.53,"text":"All right."},{"start":58.55,"end":58.79,"text":"That's good."},{"start":60.27,"end":64.54,"text":"They're fine, fine."},{"start":64.88,"end":66,"text":"Everybody's just fine."},{"start":66.02,"end":68.67,"text":"Oh, he's fine."},{"start":68.69,"end":70.89,"text":"I saw him a couple weeks ago."},{"start":70.91,"end":75.77,"text":"He hasn't changed a bit."},{"start":75.79,"end":77.88,"text":"I mean, just like you, he never gets any older."},{"start":78,"end":79.26,"text":"All the women are interested."},{"start":79.28,"end":80,"text":"That's right."},{"start":80.02,"end":80.38,"text":"No, no."},{"start":80.4,"end":82.3,"text":"Well, good to talk to you, boy."},{"start":82.32,"end":85.47,"text":"If you ever get back here, give us a ring, will you?"},{"start":85.49,"end":88.03,"text":"We've got a little cheap booze I can give you."},{"start":88.05,"end":89.05,"text":"I don't know how you get on with this stuff."},{"start":90.78,"end":96.95,"text":"All right, well, I'll take you off when you come here for one night."},{"start":96.97,"end":97.31,"text":"All right, Ray."},{"start":97.33,"end":97.57,"text":"Bye."},{"start":97.67,"end":102.39,"text":"Give our best to the girls, too."},{"start":102.41,"end":102.48,"text":"Bye."},{"start":102.5,"end":102.69,"text":"Bye."},{"start":102.71,"end":102.79,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted Raymond J. Arbuthnot to offer personal condolences regarding the recent death of Arbuthnot's wife, Zelda. The conversation also touched on casual updates regarding Arbuthnot's ranch, family members, and the President's firm stance on the ongoing conflict with North Vietnam. The brief exchange concluded with a friendly invitation for Arbuthnot to visit the White House in the future.","topics":["Condolences","Personal matters","Vietnam War","Ranching"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T15:22:04.386Z"},"topicSlugs":["condolences","personal-matters","vietnam-war","ranching"],"audioDurationSec":103,"audioFiles":[{"file":"329-039.mp3","bytes":4118779,"durationSec":102.83,"bitrate":320430,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:41.906Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/329-039.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/329-039","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/329/conversation-329-039","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}