{"conversationCode":"329-046","tapeNumber":329,"conversationNumber":46,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-329-046","startDateTime":"1972-04-15T19:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-15T22:35:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Apr-1972","startTime":"2:12 PM","endDate":"15-Apr-1972","endTime":"5:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On April 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:12 pm and 5:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 329-046 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 329-46\n\nDate: April 15, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 2:12 pm and 5:35 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President talked with an unknown person.\n\n     Call to Melvin R. Laird\n           -Vietnam negotiations\n                -Support for the President\n                     -Gratitude","filename":["329-046.mp3"],"tapeStart":"05:00:19","tapeEnd":"05:00:51","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"329-045","nextCode":"329-047","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":21.8,"text":"One other thing, if I were to give you good therapy, I think you ought to call a lawyer and say, you know, we're not a lawyer, we're not negotiating things."},{"start":21.82,"end":22.56,"text":"I know that you mentioned that, John."},{"start":22.58,"end":23.34,"text":"And I'm most grateful for his support."},{"start":23.36,"end":23.72,"text":"He's a strong man."},{"start":23.74,"end":24.42,"text":"He can throw a little crack at us."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with an associate regarding communication strategies for ongoing Vietnam negotiations. The discussion centered on the necessity of maintaining a formal distance from direct legal-style negotiations and expressing appreciation for Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird’s consistent support. Nixon acknowledged Laird's toughness and political reliability despite his occasionally critical demeanor.","topics":["Vietnam War","Melvin Laird","Diplomacy","Political Strategy","Negotiations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T15:22:43.431Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","melvin-laird","diplomacy","political-strategy","negotiations"],"audioDurationSec":31,"audioFiles":[{"file":"329-046.mp3","bytes":1264118,"durationSec":31.45,"bitrate":321506,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:41.907Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/329-046.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/329-046","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/329/conversation-329-046","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}