On April 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:20 am to 10:55 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 329-055 of the White House Tapes.
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Yeah, jumping up and down over there.
These are the most successful strikes that I've ever seen in my life.
I just got back.
You know, we vary up before we go to the strike line.
They look mostly strong.
The Post is, I don't know what's the matter with George Wilson, he puts in there that this is a return, a tit-for-tat policy of the Johnson administration.
What the shit is he talking about?
He won't say that.
No, no, no, that's what he said to the mommy boss.
Does he realize this was just a tit-for-tat?
He doesn't know this one.
Yeah, that was in his story.
He wrote this story.
He won't say that, but I think he understands what happened.
But tell me, give me a word, just summarize what happened.
It wasn't successful at all.
And second, the other thing they had, I just want to ask you about, Mr. Wilson also wrote a story about Anglok, and he says the South Vietnamese have all their tanks and weapons carriers lined up in the port of the Lintram to go out, and they just sit in a park and won't move.
I checked that, you know, they had a combat man there.
I raised those points not because, because I assumed Hayes wasn't going to be there.
So he may not find out.
He ought to find out whether the Suns were picking South Bay or not.
We don't know now.
quite professionally because the ad-lib things look pretty a lot better now.
The New York Times has a rather very mild editorial saying we should return to negotiate in a very mild way.
Oh, incidentally, before I get into your issue, did you see the statements by Humphrey Muskie?
Yeah, but they're weak.
But you see what, if I could just say one thing for you,
Humphrey demanded that the president take this to the Security Council of the United Nations and ask for a ceasefire.
Now, for good Christ's sakes, don't you think even a...
I think my college graduate kids know that the Security Council of the United Nations can't handle Vietnam.
Which wasn't it.
On this post-Vietnamese partisan trade, the Russians would have to be killed, the Chinese would have to be killed.
But beyond that, Humphrey was in all that time.
Why the hell would they do it if they were going to do it anyway?
It's the guidance and the evidence.
And yet that is seriously suggestive.
They can't hit the president.
And Muskie said it's an escalation.
It's horrible.
It has consequences with the Chinese and the Russians.
They're going to be very serious.
Two weeks from now, that would be bad.
Well, I'm sorry, but I'm just saying, you know, I had an interesting thing that happened last Saturday.
It wasn't a furry outfit in the evening, but they're nice little blacks.
But your call came this week, and I was here tomorrow again.
And so they...
And you know, the only ones that missed me are the three or four that would have grabbed me.
So I'm glad you're here to talk.
When I came back, and I took him in, he was this marvelous singer, just a bearded nose.
Have you ever heard of him?
Oh, yes.
Ah, so great.
What a voice.
Oh, she was the first girl we ever had an encore with when I was young.
She was just magnificent.
And we were lucky to have her.
Anyway, Ben and I took him in tomorrow as I was speaking to my 75-year-old secretary.
Oh, yeah.
Very warm toast, which he had not read.
He said, sir, I'm awful proud of you, sir.
That's what the real American... Well, until he said Bernie left.
Mr. President, what's your view?
My feeling is that Bernie left, but look at it from the American point of view.
We played an intelligent game, but it's not one that can scheme people up.
We had a doctrine which was a sort of withdrawal.
That's right.
We were splitting the board.
That's right.
So they were resigning themselves to the fact that we were sort of easing our way out of the message situation.
That's right.
And Nixon is doing the best he can.
That's the best anybody ever said anything about us.
Now, here we are in a situation, Mr. President, where we may come out of this with our heads high.
And we will.
I'll tell you this.
I think we have to realize that if we fail with the Russian priority blockade,
We may lose the election, but we will not lose the war.
I'll keep the blockade on.
I'll keep it on until the end of the year.
Mr. President, if I get to Russia, if they don't cancel it now, because that was still possible, and when they see the extent of what's happened, let me give you three parts.
There was one explosion.
There was one explosion.
Are you sure they're not throwing smoke up your asses?
There was one explosion in Hyde Park in the oil storage area that was seen on the Kerrigan Hill or 110 miles away.
They saw a tremendous explosion in Hyde Park.
And the, they say the oil storage area is up in flames.
They think that 90% of these B-52 farms is in the target area, and one using a captain.
There's a Navy pilot who was, we lost only two planes out of 240.
One airport, one Navy.
The Navy pilot parachuted out and landed right next to the destroyer.
One of the destroyers, you can order to shell high farms.
They were clean.
And they rescued him while there were no people.
He's fishing boats and what he was also all around.
The guy would have been a sure president.
And he said, as the border said, there's one man who believes the president is gone.
And he landed within a hundred yards of the destroyer.
Of course, he wasn't the one that was to be blamed.
They just destroyed him.
They gave him a shell.
Nine hundred shells on the crossbow.
And they didn't kill him.
Four destroyers and a crew that they fired.
They can't tell if it is in shape or not.
But because these were on gun installation, so you wouldn't get anything yourself.
But in High Farm, the fireball could be seen 110 miles away.
On the carrier kiddie ball.
In Hanoi, they hit the TOL.
The first wave came in there and said that the fire was two miles across.
And now the first wave said the flames were 200 feet high.
The second wave, the flames were 10,000 feet high and two miles across.
And the third wave said the fire had gotten worse and totally out of control.
The whole field of P.O.L.
is a rating internal.
This is just preliminary.
This is from the pilot.
This is without reconnaissance.
Let me just run through here.
This is high-bond P.O.L., very large, red-orange secondary explosion.
observed 10 minutes after PBT-2 strikes numerous flights.
These are the very first reports.
Navy support and Air Command indicated PBT-2 bombs dropped in a very close pattern.
An oil P.O.L.
target reported 75% destroyed by first flight.
Flames of CERN to 200 feet.
Second flight reported flat-roaming smoke to 10,000 feet.
Third flight reported
What is the target building totally out of control upon arrival?
And is possible building more so than we left?
Haiphong open storage area is too huge to stay inside.
Haiphong storage east makes a damage.
Haiphong airfield six minutes destroyed on the ground.
This is six pages.
This is how it will come down.
This isn't reconnaissance.
sand-sized one large secondary explosion and 100 foot orange fireball.
It is visual.
It must be pretty true.
Oh, yeah.
Four large secondary explosions.
Did not occur through the target list.
In significant observation, there were several reports of visual nodules.
For example, a very large secondary global symposium from the TDR in the direction of high farm crop positions some 110 nautical miles south of the city.
And so forth.
Now, on the ground, I want to give you a brief report of the naval components.
Asked for 77 conductive strikes against the peninsula for an hour, over 900 rounds of 6-inch, 5-inch, and another kind of 5-inch.
We did a lot of targets with the coastal defense.
I'm very happy because the coastal defense fire was open, but it was very angry.
Hammers, which had recovered an A-7, 5-inch.
5-inch was reported to be the most.
This has had a factor in the trade.
He was in the water for about seven minutes, and when I did a cover, he looked like he was going to be task force commander and continue to fire on the coast defense side to recover the business from the men.
His strike was a complete success.
That was my ultimate move.
It was made all the more worthwhile by the recovery of Commander Moss, with fishing boats and torpedo boats all around him.
He will certainly be in good faith in these hands.
His task for 71 has been ordered on this ship.
The strike will be pricing for a hundred.
With the surface strike, two proposals of troops have been destroyed from the brink.
Actively while firing, Navy tank air overhead.
And who has not fired into the fall of the ship is clear to headline.
A great show.
We are ready for a retreat.
You know, and they had to send in reports.
That's a reward, too.
A great show, ready for the repeat.
You know, that helps the morale of the Navy, doesn't it?
Oh, I could be.
I could.
This is a 10-page report.
Very large, second-hand equipment.
Two large, sustained fire.
Major damage.
They knocked down, I don't know what they knocked down.
They hit the truck park.
I was going to tell you.
They hit one truck park with 600 trucks.
In one truck, probably 500 trucks.
They can't associate how much damage they did.
The one thing they also didn't do, I must say, is they probably hit a Soviet ship.
So they had to do it somehow.
I think they did.
Actually, without authority, but within a mile of the fields, and one of the bombs was just gone.
Maybe.
Can't be sure.
I didn't know it would be that, Mr. President.
It will be canned for other reasons.
The whole struggling time to trip.
The way to Greenland was slaughtering last time.
I couldn't read it out of my mind.
Henry, if you could hold something, I think the problem here is that it's a little harder to try it again.
But look at it the other way.
If the trip succeeds, you have done one of the greatest things in foreign policy, maybe the greatest in American history, because anybody can slobber around your teaching in Moscow.
Not anyone could have said it out.
But, you know, all of that, no one would do it as gracefully as you.
But your strength is that you are doing it from confidence.
And if you can make the Russians take you after doing this to the other, it will make you get the credit in the future times.
But if Kennedy's human thing was a myth, it was produced by incompetence and followed by incompetence.
Certainly followed by incompetence.
And produced by the Russians would never have dared, the Russians wouldn't dare to put missiles into Cuba against you.
No, I agree.
I agree with you.
You brought them out of Cuba.
So, I think that now on the ground in Anzac yesterday, there were two tank attacks.
They claimed to have knocked out 10 out of 11 in one wave, and 9 out of 10 in the other.
And I was glad to be closing .
So in one wave, I know the figure is 7 out of 10 by now.
And the other people, I frankly don't believe those figures.
On the other hand, the fact is they didn't take the pound.
They haven't taken it yet.
And what's more, they have a bit more airborne units.
The 22th Division is coming in from the, it's a good one.
Yeah, that's a good division.
That's what they're going to do.
They have a range of battalions.
And if they, and more I'll tell you, if they don't take it, but if the next 36 hours they aren't going to take it, I don't know.
Abrams is really going to be able to do something there.
Now the district is finished.
Everything should go in there.
Why not everything?
Look, it's like we're done.
You know, it's, you know, I made a big error.
I mean, the French made an error to defend it.
He made an error to attack.
But this is now becoming a half-assed symbol.
Does Abrams know this?
I think Mr. President, in tactical battles, we've got to leave him alone.
You know, Senator.
I know, I know.
This is a tactical battle.
It has great history.
The only thing to do is to take all of his air and just dump it in there on the sun.
But he's also got an offensive operation going on.
I think, Mr. President, for example, the full effect of our build-up isn't going to be held until this week.
When this started two weeks ago, we were flying 360 soldiers a day.
This week, we're going to be flying 650 soldiers.
Next week we're going to be flying 800 suits and another week dead.
So we have more than doubled our soldiers.
We have more than, there's a pack here, we have more than doubled the D-50 troops.
And more destroyers are coming in to work up and down the coast so that we can literally cover the whole group up.
I just don't, I think Mr. President, uh, be, uh, close to tracking them.
Some scores sound spectacular, as I said.
Some idiot of the White House staff unfortunately told him to retire.
Well, Terence, where did Goulet fall?
It's the Moscow trip, it's France, and he didn't put us as an accessory.
I told him not to talk to the goddamn New York Times.
You don't think it was somebody?
Well, let's go.
I said, I said today.
I said it.
I said it.
I said it.
I said it.
that provincial towns are under for who do you think it's from.
It doesn't, it helps with the runs, it hurts with the runways, maybe, but the president, but the way it's gone, it's not right now.
But that's the one area where they still, there are two areas where they have, in search for, Mr. President,
If they have ten more days, two weeks, I suppose, and then they'll have got their own range, you know, the combination of imminent range and supplies.
The casualties they must take, they're on the task force.
That's just asking.
And so they can keep it out for a while.
But what they're doing to themselves now in 1968, they lost their business, but they still had their main source human.
Right.
And therefore, they were not in danger of disease.
They just couldn't keep the country .
But in this year, what we're doing for Cambodia, for example, the three divisions that are attacking and locked are the divisions they normally have in Cambodia.
Those divisions, if they don't now topple the whole thing, they topple the whole thing because they're, I don't mean to endlock, but they're also for security.
That seems to me already beyond their reach.
But if they don't do that, they're going to be through this year and most of next year.
And I don't think that they can.
We are working one over pretty good now.
The papers really show our press is so dishonest.
I mean, it's almost as dishonest as our military is.
Mr. President, we may lose.
It would be absolutely miraculous if we got through this offensive without losing one or two provincial talents.
And that we've always expected.
So far, it's a miracle that we haven't lost one yet.
If we think, I'll get back.
How far we have come in the last two weeks, since we've gone east to central.
It's disorganized.
Three months.
Two weeks.
Two weeks.
Easter.
And when disorganized is how the victim is killed.
They're streaming back to the south.
The headline of this now is Blitzkrieg.
Right.
But the offense has been going for free.
The offense has been doing that.
I agree.
It wasn't until the second that we realized it wasn't really an offensive.
Those two weeks have stayed the last two months.
It's not yet taken any significant heavy load anywhere.
We have to be farming North Beacon.
David was really minor.
This time last week, Mr. President, you were telling about one big D-52 strike on Ben Simpson.
That's right.
Since then, Wednesday, we doubled the D-52 towards 150 miles per hour.
Yesterday, we had the most tremendous strike of the whole world in the Hanoi area.
All of this time, within a two-week period,
They have lost, according to the estimates, over 10,000 kills.
I tend to believe that it may, in fact, be higher than this, because these people who strike must hit something.
That would be within our territory of the South Coast.
We keep this up another four weeks.
In fact, one thing we have to consider is that it may not, it's certainly not in our interest to accept that as well.
That's going to be our topic, though.
We ought to keep this going long enough to chew up that army in this house so that it can't fight it.
Your treatment told me yesterday.
I hope that you hear from him.
I'm coming as far as I can say.
Good.
Well, his original orders were to come to me Monday night.
And, uh...
But I'm all good.
So that he said, don't be concerned if they knock it off.
Then you and Chris will get away with it.
You see, we've got design code prepared to blockade and go all the way.
President, you must have a very rapid means of communication.
But since he has to, I mean, this is, we did it with folks.
When he comes to my house at 9 o'clock at night, he's always all over the place.
And he said, I'll be waiting for his call.
He could be here.
He said, is there any doubt about your coming?
There can't be any doubt.
It's clear two days of freshman schedule.
I said, well, the freshman wants to hear whether there will be some complete results.
He said, we can't promise you complete results because we don't even know what your proposition is yet.
All we can promise you is we'll be the first to travel to Ireland and nothing else will be discussed until then.
He said, of course, you have to recognize that you're dealing with the chairman of the largest communist party.
Well, if he wants to discuss something else, I said, I know that Mr. President's outranked me, but the President has given me the furthest instruction.
This has nothing to do with rank.
It has to do with the fact that I'm not a free agent.
The President has ordered me, and I want your leaders to understand that, and I will not be able to be free agent without his instruction.
I understand.
He said we've settled the first attempt.
May I report we've settled the first attempt.
Good.
No.
That's fine.
But it could be that they have a positive view of you if they change their mind.
It could be that when they realize how massive this attack was, that they knock it off.
But then they're going to have to realize they're knocking off the summit.
They'll have to figure it out.
That's not enough.
If they want a good summit, they knock it off.
First thing I would do is call over Strauss.
You see, they know, Mr. President, that if they want a good summit, I can prepare it better, because I know you're thinking better than anyone else.
I mean, in terms of preparations, it's just more reliable, but I would have to sit down with you to go over this whole thing a little bit, just to make sure that I have a very clear picture of what you would be able to do if you take the decision on Vietnam.
Well, he practically threatened me.
He said, can I say that if there's no meeting by May 2, 25th of May, that there won't be one?
I said, yes.
I told Mr. President, we might as well play through.
I said, I can't.
I said, I can't tell you.
I said, I can't tell you, President, because not all of us are going to come on May 6th, and the last day is too close to December.
It doesn't give us enough chance to take action, but he will endure the days that we in the West have done, and we can, so I think he said, can you at least wait until you're bored, until you get to those reasons in your life?
I said, we cannot stop bombing, but we have to stay away from Illinois, I thought.
He said, we have to park in the military area.
He said, well, no, we're not in the military area.
I said, it is not.
We can stay away from the military area.
Mr. President, imagine anyone talking like this about an ally.
The note he has for me is so weak.
It is so much softer than what they gave us directly that I just know that the Russians are twisting around.
And it must be a shattering experience to them when their hour of crisis comes.
I mean, if we treated you the way they are now treating Hanoi, with this sort of tempted support, urging them to talk,
saying they should come to Moscow to negotiate with me.
It's literally, if you like that, it's collapse.
In the mere fact that they are talking to their heart and they have disowned, there's a major deceitful moment.
Even, as I said, if I'm there to play the theme, I don't know.
I'm just going to hang it there for a moment.
And, you know, any other president, including Nelson, who is, Nelson would have called in 30 advisors.
There would have been grand activity around the White House.
He would have been pretty tough within the existing resources.
I don't know anyone in this country who would have doubled, more than doubled up because he would have increased the back end by 2%.
All right.
If I go to Moscow, it makes absolutely no difference whether I come back with something or not.
To me, in fact, if Moscow has received me after bombing or my bombing, it indicates you have listened.
If they don't receive you, then we know what we have to do.
Then you know.
But it's best to learn when you receive.
We'll know where the cards lie.
I will not go to Moscow on your behalf now from a position of weakness because of the bomb.
Yes.
Until yesterday, you were just a prisoner.
You didn't say you are not interested.
You didn't because you didn't.
Number 50.
Number 50.
Number 50.
Number 50.
The original plan was to go into several stores and pay for the screen and so on.
So we've got it now.
As far as I know, it's a conservative message, Mr.
Senator.
Indeed, people say that the past has really shaken and annoyed the total ineffectiveness of the air defense system.
Here we were in with 260 airplanes all together, and they shoot out two.
And one percent of it was for the dead system, the aircraft system.
because they developed two tactics.
They lost the B-52s of the radar altogether.
They got so confused, they dropped so many tons of jabs that they got totally confused and they thought the attack was coming from the other direction.
It must shake them up.
It must be a shock for their population.
Here they intubate before you stop.
They're co-adventures, and now suddenly it starts again.
And it starts again in a way that must be really passionate, viable, that you can see out there 10 miles away.
It must be seen all over North Carolina.
What about the period of the bombing, right?
It's typically a resolution.
It goes on day after day after day.
We use children.
And we're good.
You see, if motors open, like, we never let it go up there, the motors would be playing at one time.
If every target was picked, and they didn't give them an alternate target, then they told them they had to attack, say, within 24 hours.
And if they didn't attack within these 24 hours, they lost the assault.
He said, in your case, what we did is we gave them a list of 10 targets.
More than 14 targets.
We said, we can get any one of those depending on the situation.
We don't want many to be interviewed.
They could pick the time.
They could pick the number of stories.
They had the right to do it.
For example, Johnny Boat.
Some of these targets, they went in three ways.
Some of these targets were so destroyed in the first place that both went to those targets that they had planned on in the second and third place.
I mean, I mean, I mean, if we can only pay the price of the brand, I'm just looking back.
Maybe we should have just demolished it on that place.
What we should have done is to go in, no matter what I consider, and pull out this place.
I don't know where they got the message.
I don't know where they got the message.
I don't know where they got the message.
I don't know where they got the message.
I don't know where they got the message.
I don't know where they got the message.
The rest of the base has been destroyed by a lot of their manpower.
They had all together about 3,000 sand rockets in Vietnam.
Since this offensive started, they've already expected about 600.
The troops they reached at this rate, they haven't had any sand rockets yet.
That's their B.O.I.
though, so unless they're signed up, it's not going to give that much support.
Just by dragging that, he's a delinquent.
This is not a seat competition.
I think what you'd have to have with anything ever is something that takes us after the election.
And that's the way I do it.
Or, um, get my money.
Because it's good.
I haven't slept in seats until I was over here.
to an extent that's got to come right away because that could be a very common issue in this country.
Can it return to that?
We'll work out a little scheme as to what you've been talking about.
I'm working on this proposal right now and we've got to get it done physically.
We've got to buy coaching.
You've got to do this this time, and they think you're rude and so afraid.
What, do we still want Bill to be a model?
No, it would be a hotline.
It would be a hotline.
Exactly.
I just keep this as your memo, but you can avoid it.
I don't care.
I've been talking to him for two months.
I don't care.
Because he has a tendency to understand what you say.
It will also result in what if he has something inside him.
He can't do it.
And we covered everything.
We covered everything.
He has left.
And he said, he has no choice here.
No where to go.
And they had this benefit.
How's Larry?
How's Larry?
He's coming tomorrow.
I'll call him.
I'll quote him out.
He said he thought it all up.
Good.
I don't mind.
And then he said he made you do it.
Good.
Good.
Because you did it.
You know.
We did that, this down this road.
Let him think.
Let him think of something else for a moment.
But does he feel good today?
Well, Mr. President, you can tell.
See, in the bombing in the Panhandle, they told Hitler, they said, one warehouse destroyed, two bridges down, two second-hand explosions.
Here they tell us
There's so many secondary explosives that we haven't paid.
We haven't totaled them up yet.
There's so many fires that we don't know what's underneath the fires.
Imagine a fireball going 10,000 feet under the air.
That's all in there.
It's a very tough job.
That's got to come in my seat.
Smoked.
black roll of smoke to beyond 10,000 feet and two miles across.
Two miles across and more intensely when we left.
The line this week, our negotiations should be there.
We'll negotiate only when they stop their fighting and invasions, is that correct?
We hold that all week long, take the heat which we'll have to take in our negotiations.
Let me say this.
You were saying, you know, you want to find yourself in that position in trouble with Johnson and he bombed you.
Well, again, it didn't give the appearance.
We had been contemplating it even harder.
Our acts...
soften our rhetoric.
Now, are we making a mistake in not doing something when they do?
I'm just asking, I hope.
Mr. President, because we have denounced country vote, we've been softened.
In other words, we will take, you will just have to take the public opinion, and they'll go big now, the Democrats will.
That's all right, Mr. President, but you see the point is that if they agree to a meeting on this 24th with me,
So, uh...
Let's look a little further.
I mean, I'm just trying to think if this will determine how you write your paper, what you tell the Russians.
Suppose the Russians can't deliver on a time for it.
Suppose we do not have any.
You see,
Your view is that you couldn't blockade, because you understand that if we blockade, the Russians couldn't have a summit at the time of the one case.
Mr. President, what we must do, I said this yesterday before I had had the Russian case, but you agree that it was a Russian case.
I just, what I said to the President, I said, we will not send a little federal country to destroy two American presidents.
And, uh,
We will destroy the truth.
They must think you have lost all rationality.
Therefore, we must be reasonable.
We must give the impression that this worst course is to appear now of backing off.
We must say, yes, I'm just saying.
However, suppose that they don't deliver the soft market media.
And then nothing comes out of your...
But if they don't, if they don't, then is our course then to blockade and flush the summit?
Or is our course just to bomb like hell and go to the summit anyway?
And then that'll flush the summit, right?
I'm just thinking what our options really are.
We have a 70-30 check.
We cannot afford to lose, Mr. President, because if we back out now, we're not going to lose.
I would tend perhaps to go to one place.
But I'd first do one with massive profits.
Well, certainly we'll find one today that's not building ad weather.
None of the weather is improving now.
It's just constantly improving from now on.
It's actually as the weather improves in the north, it gets worse in the south.
In the middle of May, when the debtors leave, they can't use banks.
So people
Okay.
I think that's that one.
Mr. President, what this country needs, I believe in today.
Mr. President, if you pull this off, you will become not just an executive, but a party leader.
So you personally, because you've taken so much into the lives of your presidency, if you think this without popularity,
for the second term, but we knew we started with everybody on the street, with the whole intellectual establishment, with these ministerialist philosophers.
If you pull this country on the right course now as you're doing, this is going to have a tremendous impact on the whole philosophy of self-confidence.
Why is it
that they don't dare to tackle you so much because, first of all, they're anachronistic, but not like in Cambodia.
Oh, but Muskie and Perry, you see his son this morning, Muskie Perry.
But Muskie's always behind me.
If we get that trip off, Mr. President, they are going to look like goddamn fools.
What, imagine what we could say if the trip failed.
We'll say these sons of bitches, as we were negotiating,
As Kissinger was going to Moscow by direction, David Snipes doesn't come back.
If the trip succeeds, and you can say when you come back to Moscow that the Russians pointed out that the President doesn't have support at all, by this time, I think, Mr. President, we will have another monumental hotel which you can play anytime you choose.
In addition to the fact that if the trip comes over, maybe there can't be another one.
We're not going to worry about it.
You have done.
There's something to be said.
I've said a lot about the Russian side.
There are a hell of a lot of people that don't like these comments.
They might have liked the China thing, but they might not like the Russian thing at all.
My view is that if the Russians are so stupid to cancel out the fire, then we go immediately.
knocking off the Germans and destroyed Iran.
Right?
Do you agree with that?
We go immediately then also to a blockade.
That's my view.
As we can show this, all the officers we've made there, all of our series, and you had all the detectives in Moscow, and they turned hands and they...
Because they know, they probably figured that you, don't you, don't you think you have convinced the Bremen that we do have a blockade in mind?
You know, the president, the Bremen says, could you at least play with doing a second thing?
Because we've had an accident.
These people saying, don't do it, don't do it, it's not, you've got to get stuff on, it's an old problem, you know, come here and do it.
One last thing, what do you hear?
Any of our Hawk, what about the Joe Alsop's?
Mr. President, you don't hear them.
They're all found.
I had a lot of quotes last time.
I think it's best to stay the hell out of it.
Keep the White House out of it.
Mr. President, don't take any calls.
If that trip comes up,
I could just see the articles of the cool nerve of the president pushing his checks into the phone and getting them to the O.P.A.
And this will it be, the way we stand up to pressure on the Soviets.
And then, you know, in a very, I'd say rather small way, but it's important to go up to Canada and fuck around up there and here and just, you know, laughing all in all that crap.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
But I don't want them to think that we are backing down.
I think we should tell them now for the next week, we want to concentrate on the battle area.
Throw everything into battle.
I don't think we should tell them anything.
Just say that the existing authorities, which was enabled at the bomb, up to the 19th parallel.
But it was enabled on fire all the way up to now, only to defend it.
We can't go up to it.
I don't know.
But the 20th gets every board except for the 5th.
All right.
It gets that one second out of the game.
And they can attack every airfield between the 20th and the 5th.
So that gives them more authority than they ever have before.
Correct.
And 4B gets all that if he thinks for it.
Okay.
Good.
All right.
This doesn't cover, for example, the truck parts.
This only covers explosions.
This doesn't cover damage, which doesn't lead to explosions.
We have no good estimate of the... Do you know of somebody that hit some people that were held to this, that were... You don't mean... Those poor backers who sit in some camp up there, and they've seen some of this, and they heard this, and they could make a field of it, or wouldn't you?
Sir President, they must have seen all over Vietnam if the Kitty Hawk could see this flame 110 miles away.
And all over at least the most populated areas of Vietnam, they must have seen these planes.
They must have seen them in China.
Say well done to that from me, to the destroyer.
I think that's a nice thing.
Send it to McCain.
Please pass to the crew and the commander.
President, well done.
President, old lady man, well done.
Thank you.