{"conversationCode":"330-018","tapeNumber":330,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-330-018","startDateTime":"1972-04-05T17:23:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-05T18:32:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Apr-1972","startTime":"12:23 PM","endDate":"5-Apr-1972","endTime":"1:32 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On April 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:23 pm and 1:32 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 330-018 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 330-18\n\nDate: April 5, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:23 pm and 1:32 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Manolo Sanchez..\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 7s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 1:32 pm.","filename":["330a.mp3","330b.mp3","330c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:00:35","tapeEnd":"03:01:44","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"330-017","nextCode":"330-019","tapeTranscriptFile":"330a.mp3,330b.mp3,330c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":10835,"end":10841.27,"text":"If they have to go over to East U.S., then Eastland just has to hold the parade and not cover it."},{"start":10842.65,"end":10852.09,"text":"The difficulty is when we get into the executive session, I can just see, I can see the bias sort of pushing me out."},{"start":10852.17,"end":10856.15,"text":"Let's have a list of witnesses, let's have two weeks for the case."},{"start":10856.39,"end":10864.48,"text":"Throughout two weeks, and I'll ask, they'll know that I'm going to open up other ones, unless it will be small, because it's going to be bad."},{"start":10864.66,"end":10867.72,"text":"At this point, it's going to be hard lines."},{"start":10868.06,"end":10870.44,"text":"And our folks understand that."},{"start":10870.46,"end":10871.52,"text":"McGregor is on that list."},{"start":10872.88,"end":10875.39,"text":"I think that's good."},{"start":10875.47,"end":10881.25,"text":"They're doing what they like to do."},{"start":10882.45,"end":10883.61,"text":"Well, okay."},{"start":10883.91,"end":10884.59,"text":"Well, who is it?"},{"start":10884.61,"end":10884.63,"text":"A..."},{"start":10884.65,"end":10892.39,"text":"I must say, I have no idea who it is."},{"start":10901.62,"end":10904,"text":"If you go to your next crib, I bet you can put the lures on."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":10835,"end":10904,"startMethod":"tape_time","endMethod":"tape_time"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consults with his valet, Manolo Sanchez, regarding legislative strategy and political maneuvering related to an upcoming executive session. The discussion touches upon managing witness lists, specifically mentioning Clark MacGregor, and navigating potential biases during proceedings. The President emphasizes the necessity of taking a firm stance despite the adversarial nature of the situation.","topics":["Political strategy","Clark MacGregor","Executive session","Witness management","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T15:26:42.479Z"},"topicSlugs":["political-strategy","clark-macgregor","executive-session","witness-management","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":69,"audioFiles":[{"file":"330a.mp3","bytes":117422196,"durationSec":7338.89,"bitrate":128000,"missing":false},{"file":"330b.mp3","bytes":117272910,"durationSec":7329.56,"bitrate":128000,"missing":false},{"file":"330c.mp3","bytes":96154779,"durationSec":6009.67,"bitrate":127999,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:41.906Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/330a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/330b.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/330c.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/330-018","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/330/conversation-330-018","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}