Nixon, Mitchell & Haldeman on ITT Case and Richard Kleindienst

4:29:233.30 is all right now.
4:29:26Well, I've got five more minutes, and I've got to go.
4:29:32I'll buzz you.
4:30:07You ask the doctor to call me when he gets off the line, and you call me, and I'll make it.
4:30:14Yeah, yeah, I've told him I've been waiting for a call from the pulpit, and I think I'm going to call Bob this morning.
4:30:32I'll finish this.
4:31:08But I hope, and you told him that I felt that you ought to go to discuss not only this, but the summit itself.
4:31:14That's what I'll make a sale of them, too.
4:31:15And how did the debt get through?
4:31:17You've got to keep the Russian thing in, and hang in Canada.
4:31:25What's your name?
4:31:25We're going to knock the level down.
4:31:30I'm changing the level a little bit.
4:31:38In the meantime, you get up there to the other... Is the weather improving?
4:31:43Yeah.
4:31:46Would you have any objection if... You'll get me back to New York if I had a...
4:31:53I won't have a chance to see if I'm going to stay up there tomorrow and go around.
4:32:01Could I have a chance to see you there?
4:32:04Or should I do a nice day together at one time?
4:32:10You know what I mean.
4:32:11I just like to give him.
4:32:12I want him to have a feeling.
4:32:14Or maybe he doesn't need it.
4:32:16Good God, I guess not.
4:32:22My feeling is how about my taking him with me up to Camp David and seeing him for an hour there tonight and sending him back.
4:32:30Fine.
4:32:30I tell him to be ready to go with me at 4.30.
4:32:32And then he can come back around 7 o'clock tonight.
4:32:36Is that all right?
4:32:38Fine.
4:32:38Okay.
4:32:40Fødder.
4:32:42Fødder.
4:32:53Fødder.
4:33:15Yeah.
4:33:17Yeah.
4:33:18I'm having cake at 4.32, so I can talk to him on the way back there and back.
4:33:22He's coming back tonight.
4:33:25So I had to help him understand by the way he's back after I made it.
4:33:31Well, I was going to have a talk with him, but we're out of time.
4:33:39I don't know.
4:33:40I'll never be back.
4:33:40And, uh, I'm tired of trying, yes, fighting through Mitchell.
4:33:434.30 is the approximate time.
4:33:44No problem.
4:33:47Anybody can go.
4:33:48Gates is fine.
4:33:51Or the little girl over there.
4:33:57Beverly is fine.
4:34:22One day I'll come over there.
4:34:50I don't think it's the right time.
4:34:54I have to go to... No.
4:34:58They were going to have 40 minutes.
4:35:22It's all right, it's all right.
4:35:28I always had it over the wrong thing.
4:35:32I had it paid off the Saturday.
4:35:34You see, you spend a moment on this.
4:35:44And where?
4:35:44Never take the long view.
4:35:46That's why I need your support.
4:35:52They will be shaken with their ideas.
4:36:48At least no synagogues, with no support from the state or the federal.
4:36:55Or I brought a chicken in the ass and went along and said we've got to take him.
4:37:02He had a letter, and I finally got a letter that showed him that the strongman was one of the good men of this episode.
4:37:09I finally got him henryed against the Russian people in the next secretary of state.
4:37:17That's it.
4:37:18Once he told us, once he heard what we wanted, he was like that.
4:37:26So we got a bus that goes there, that ought to be around.
4:37:34We put all our chips in the box, and I decided to put all our chips in the box.
4:37:48Teddy and Gilbert are both, now there's one thing, Bob, you've got to make a note of.
4:37:59Teddy and Gilbert are both out there.
4:38:00I want Joel and others to continue, and our people to continue to attack them for being out there.
4:38:13Attack them for undercutting the commander in chief.
4:38:46...is to really prick the boil now.
4:39:16Rather than let the son of a bitch still be hanging around here in September and October.
4:39:21And that's why we're, I agree, trying to foment it in Christ's way.
4:39:24And I'm sure it didn't go unnoticed, but they pressed me with a small rise when I did it that first day, and I'm a hundred.
4:39:36But as I'm sure you know, I'm over there, practically all over the State Department, and I should have had a disarming conference.
4:39:47I said something about the very nature of human strength.
4:39:50I've got it loud and clear, but when they made me sit down, man, they didn't put the television camera on anybody else's face when they were saying it.
4:39:56That's what I was trying to look for.
4:39:57I stayed up and watched all the newscasts to see what I could see on them.
4:40:00They got him after, later, but they didn't get him long in the Senate.
4:40:04That's where it's at.
4:40:05In other words, you've got this game now.
4:40:07In position.
4:40:07All right, now.
4:40:10Time-wise, Mr. President, I think this is great.
4:40:15Now.
4:40:16Because they will have the capacity to do the best they can do.
4:40:21That's what we like to do.
4:40:55That's the sign.
4:40:56That's the protest.
4:41:18They don't protest.
4:41:25That's the part of the writing that these people don't understand.
4:41:33They always refer to psychology, and they prefer to go through all that stuff.
4:41:36I wanted to talk to you a little about what we did, and I just read it, and I really thought, why did your old friend speak wrong?
4:41:44Yeah.
4:41:46And he looked through the box, and he said, number one, he said, half of the computer was part of it,
4:42:17We could have as early as June, which is before the end of October.
4:42:20As Steve Robinson says, it's true that we're still trying to do it, but we'll come back to it.
4:42:27One way or the other, we'll be working on it.
4:42:31We'll either be kicking it, or we'll be passing it, or we'll be firing on it, passing it, which is what we need to do.
4:42:40I know we've hired a couple of them to play around here, so they have to go on.
4:42:43We haven't addressed them in Parliament,
4:42:50I thought I'd done.
4:43:18We ought to, you and I, close to you, particularly the clients we've spoken to, and the clients that we've spoken to, make a decision now, if we need to talk to them, if we need to hear from them, if we need to talk to them, if we need to talk to them, if we need to talk to them, if we need to talk to them, if we need to talk to them,
4:43:46The reason we do it now is that if we do anything on it, I'm trying to do it on my position.
4:44:08The situation, because of birds and herbs and food,
4:45:09I'll tell you the truth, I'll tell you the truth, I'll tell you the truth, John, it wouldn't worry if you asked my name to go, he's not very, you know, subtle, not the brightest guy in the world in terms of public relations, but that way it wouldn't be too much, and it wouldn't worry if you asked my name to go, or whoever else they called, I guess, whoever else they wanted to call, I don't know, the real part of it is history, that's what they're asking, that's what I'm saying.
4:45:40You must remember that Irwin is making a point.
4:45:44He is talking about such conversations with third parties, not the president, with respect to climate change and the points he wants to make.
4:45:56And there is also a thought, I don't know if it really goes the way you wrote it down in the second session, that since they have the resolution of germanness there,
4:46:40Many today voted in the executive session to take votes for our motions by Hearst, and for our motions by Irvin, too.
4:46:48First, this is being done for Peter Meynden and all other White House aides.
4:46:55That was repeated 66.
4:46:57All the Republicans voting with us, and all the Democrats voting against the piece, and they're saying, Scott went way under.
4:47:05Scott, we know, but Bob Berman was missing now.
4:47:08But so was my father, Bob, and...
4:47:11Then he approved that they subpoena Peter Flanagan and Bill Timmons, and that was subpoenaed 6-6.
4:47:16Then he moved to subpoena Flanagan, and that was subpoenaed 6-6.
4:47:21Then he had a motion to invite Flanagan to appear in executive session, instead of subpoenaing.
4:47:26And that was subpoenaed 4-9.
4:47:28He subpoenaed Irvin, joining the Republicans, because Irvin doesn't want him.
4:47:33No, he wanted to put him on the spot, but with the shirt.
4:47:37And he has no desire to do it.
4:47:40Well, I have the feeling, John, that you have to face the fact that mine is... No.
4:47:47And I think this is a game.
4:47:50You said, well, it's a game, in general.
4:47:57And he has added a little bit too much narrative to the word.
4:48:07Yeah, I...
4:48:38Eastman said he hadn't talked to Mansfield.
4:48:41Hey, hey, he's about to get out of here.
4:48:46He wouldn't recommend it.
4:48:47He would.
4:48:48How is that?
4:49:05Yes, it did.
4:49:06The first week I sat him.
4:49:08Let's be ready to sign the cross.
4:49:26Cross.
4:50:10Oh, listen.
4:50:13It might be useful to have it up there, yeah.
4:50:16Get it down on there.
4:50:20What change will we make?
4:50:22We're going to have to change it one day, depending upon something that happens later today.
4:50:32Then we have to have it wrapped.
4:50:35No, wrapped.
4:50:37Sorry.
4:50:38Can't do it.
4:50:39Okay.
4:50:39We don't know whether the narrative is even available.
4:50:49I'm sure.
4:50:49What I see is that here, there's a lot to go on.
4:50:53It's really complicated.
4:50:55It's a big thing.
4:50:57At which time will it be crunchily coming?
4:51:06Without finding a verbal answer.
4:51:41I think that's it, but I wasn't sure.
4:51:46I saw it last time.
4:51:52I wasn't sure.
4:53:10They played it clearly, and also, we have to realize it's never been so likely to be made out as a role.
4:53:15Except for John McClellan, who started to come back from Arkansas to give this government account.
4:53:20Well, you see, too late.
4:53:25They need something, that's for sure.
4:53:31They're probably pissed off and tell them that Arfie isn't used to it, and some do it back.
4:53:38Do you realize that?
4:53:38Well, I don't care.
4:53:39You wait about eight minutes every night and say, Arfie, I'll do this.
4:53:41I just sit here, and he's sitting and worrying me.
4:53:45Do you?
4:53:45No, sir.
4:53:46That works a little.
4:53:48Some of the attacks have been made on Kathy, and the rest of them have been on Jack Buckley.
4:53:54Jack Buckley?
4:53:55Jack Buckley.
4:53:56Buckley was very good.
4:53:57He was very good.
4:54:03Okay, I agree.
4:54:08George, can you say it?
4:54:32The only thing we have control over is that, and that's one of the reasons we're doing it now.
4:54:57We're liable to it.
4:55:30Even though the damn cloud is not going to rain.
4:55:35Now, the point is that the drawing of his name does not remove the investigation, but it makes it far more difficult for the investigation to have as much interest because then it would be a Kennedy subject in the investigation.
4:55:58I would believe so, but I would have thought that it was a man.
4:56:29Well, I don't think that's true.
4:56:31I don't think there's any issue with that.
4:56:37I could try some of it.
4:57:38Yeah, well, now here would be the scenario of the plane.
4:57:53... ... ... ... ... ...
4:58:36Good grace.
4:59:03I respect and I'm dedicated to the desire of my life that I will not be alone.
4:59:13And I'm going to do it.
4:59:18Thank you.
4:59:19Finally another name is terribly difficult.
4:59:28My name is
4:59:31I didn't suggest it, but it was shocking.
4:59:37It shocked me to try to correct it.
4:59:44But, there's one thing that I think we need to do now.
4:59:50We need to reconfirm the sense that I had indicated to the crew that they were going to do what he's told.
4:59:59Reagan would like it.
5:00:58Looking at your options, there aren't any others.
5:01:09You can't take anybody.
5:01:13The only other option is somebody who's just a well-enriched
5:01:28Well, apart from anything else, Weinberger, because he was with Reagan, would be considered by the right wing not to be soft on law and order.
5:01:49Elliot Richardson, any way to cut it, would be considered to be liberal on it.
5:01:55The only other option of a man that you can find here is somebody that said, well, we've got to get a guy like Lewis Powell to put him in.
5:02:10The difficulty is if you've got some hotshot law school team coming in and putting him in charge of the justice department, we can't control him.
5:02:24And I'm just not going to do that.
5:02:27So, that's what I come up with.
5:02:29But I want to ask Joe and the rest of the players to share one question.
5:02:33Well, we have our southern conservative president and our judiciary.
5:02:38They would want to be important to the people of the country.
5:02:42I want to know the track record of the Weinberger campaign.
5:02:50Well, first, Weinberger has been in the
5:02:55insofar as his dealings with the Congress, with the Senate, and the House, on the bite of the extreme conservatives, that is, either these conservative pistols, or the second.
5:03:07Weinberger will get up there and say exactly the right words, I know I mustn't.
5:03:10Man, what is this, Frank Rutgers has been out in front of the civil rights parties, you know?
5:03:19Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
5:03:21What a clean wine burger cost.
5:03:22Earlier, I would never have suggested it.
5:03:24Because you were granting it to Hillers for returning general, nominating him lost because he was from San Francisco and Hillers was from Los Angeles.
5:03:31Wine burgers were considered liberal, Hillers was considered conservative.
5:03:37Hillers lost the election.
5:03:38And Hillers got well, and everybody lost a mile.
5:03:40In small fact, everybody lost that year.
5:03:43Hillers lost by about a little more.
5:03:44But to be that as it may, the
5:03:51The thing about it, his main point on a track record, and this is where I get to a second, where you would have to really, the way this would have to go, you'd have to get Ronald Reagan on the phone.
5:03:59He's an ironic person.
5:04:00He needs you.
5:04:01He needs you so much that he wants to help the church.
5:04:08Nobody questions Ron Reagan's conservative.
5:04:11He says, I know you stood with me in the region, you stood with me in that, you stood with me.
5:04:19That's my guess.
5:04:20I'm just putting out the game.
5:04:22I don't think Weinberger's ever been on any kind of a thing that I know of.
5:04:29The only question might be his voting record in the assembly.
5:04:37Oh, Christ sakes, that's so many years ago.
5:04:4320 years ago.
5:04:45Reagan, the person who called me
5:05:44Smith is a certainly a commanding figure in the law.
5:05:53He's the chairman of the Board of Regents of the University of California.
5:05:58He'd be a damn good attorney general.
5:06:05But let me say, one thing that appeals to me on my end, I have not been as hot on the Jewish side as you have been.
5:06:12But,
5:06:14You do get your Jew that way.
5:06:19I know, but having a Jew in the cabin is something, too.
5:06:26You know, just like they, as much as they have, even though we've got Kissinger and we've got Stein, you know, the two most powerful people that we could have, and our conversions, when I find the three Jews, the three...
5:06:4353 of the top, probably 6 positions of government.
5:06:47The Jews, they could house the town.
5:06:53The boy could use the town.
5:07:00Oh shit, yes.
5:07:02If his track record doesn't have a block.
5:07:03Can we check that?
5:07:04It's creepy.
5:07:07No, it wouldn't help.
5:07:14The real way to do it is to work capitals.
5:07:16That's right.
5:07:19And I had the one to work capitals with, John Mitchell.
5:07:25Reason being that John knows the kinds of questions they would ask.
5:07:29But I didn't part very well with him.
5:07:30I'm afraid he knows the questions he would ask, too.
5:07:37He doesn't want to go down there and get himself bloodied up.
5:07:39He had the idea of being on the street in court like everybody else.
5:07:43He wants to give anything he's got to the attorney general.
5:07:49Oh, God, yes.
5:07:50Kat is, I must say, one of the more decent men.
5:07:55He hasn't had a white-out step.
5:07:57He is more decent, but one of the more decent men in this government.
5:08:02He has never, never talked to me, ever, about anything.
5:08:08I mean, he's never asked me up to court.
5:08:09He's never sent anybody around to see me about it.
5:08:13He's never done it.
5:08:14The only approach he's ever made, and I don't know whether Ray didn't talk to you about it or not, was to Ray.
5:08:19Ray had called me one time out of the lab.
5:08:21I don't know whether he was just with his captain, about him or not.
5:08:28The captain never talked to me about it.
5:08:29And so the guy apparently, I think, is a decent man who wants us to win, and who let anybody walk.
5:08:36Also, I have this to say, I think,
5:08:38I don't think, in fact, looking at Weinberger, he hasn't much to learn, as Smith would.
5:08:42I mean, there are, you know, I mean, I have busted, some of these issues are pretty interesting.
5:08:50Weinberger, Granberger has, he knows the ins and outs of bureaucracy.
5:08:55He knows how to fight battles.
5:08:56He's been up on the hill.
5:08:57He knows his way around the hill.
5:09:01Well, that would have to start from scratch up there.
5:09:04Well, that's described all the...
5:09:05I further believe that you haven't had all the jobs you've been trying to fix over there.
5:09:15You've just, you've got to stay leading.
5:09:18He's a proud man.
5:09:23Big heart.
5:09:23You know, his family, his family, his family, his family.
5:09:27His president.
5:09:27I haven't heard a damn thing.
5:09:28I just don't know what to tell you to do.
5:09:32I wish, you know, I'd give him anything, but...
5:09:35Well, I had Dick here this morning, and, uh, to discuss with him, there's some nasty scenarios that have been put in place, and, uh, you know, it's a pretty good pattern, but, in fact, it feels like it was feasible for him to stay here as an active, you know, an active person, in terms of generalizing.
5:11:00Dick makes all the arguments for his withdrawal.
5:11:04Can I ask you a question?
5:11:05I want to talk fast as you can.
5:11:20I think actually, I would think what I would do would be resign, and actually not going out.
5:12:23The point is, if you're going to cut your walls, you may as well cut them.
5:12:27I'm just trying to be quiet.
5:12:31And Dick will look at it that way too.
5:12:32He is a fighter, but I can't use him.
5:12:34I'm comfortable with Dick.
5:12:43I'm comfortable with him.
5:12:44I mean, it's not about finding, it's not one damn thing at all.
5:12:48Bastards, you know, we meet them in the hall and everything, and we look at them, and we think you're a great lawyer, and you're a great lawyer, and understanding doesn't lead us down at all.
5:13:03It probably does.
5:13:06What the hell is it doing?
5:13:08Well, it's raising it.
5:13:11People tend to rally around, that's why his speech to the country, it's not going to be one that's going to, where it may, you know, you can turn the politics around there, and he attacks the attackers.
5:13:24You don't do it in any goddamn light way.
5:13:26The way I would go to it, Mr. Chairman, I'm going to have a statement to make.
5:13:42I'm gonna make it to 7.30 tonight.
5:13:43Okay, I'll put it on.
5:13:48It's daytime.
5:13:51I'll put it on so nobody can see it.
5:14:00Oh, you did the news.
5:14:01News is no problem.
5:14:02No problem at all.
5:14:03Well, what about... What about everything going on in the news, though?
5:14:07I'm not sure.
5:14:09Oh, my.
5:14:11I'm not sure.
5:14:13I wanted to have an audience.
5:14:18Yeah, I think they covered it.
5:14:22I think they know that something's going on.
5:14:25I haven't seen it in May.
5:14:33I've heard it tonight.
5:14:37Look at that, huh?
5:14:41Quicker.
5:14:44tomorrow.
5:14:47So, when these badgers are still crawling around, right after the bird, see, you've got to do it so it doesn't appear that other revelations are coming out.
5:14:55But you see, the bird is made as an element.
5:14:57Well, any statistic can tell you that it's the bird.
5:15:00You see, I didn't see that when you got Bob in and totally brought in the bird thing.
5:15:05I said, well, hell, that's not good.
5:15:08You know, you can get by with the rest.
5:15:09Yeah.
5:15:10For a bird, it's a signal that the partisans are right.
5:15:14That's all.
5:15:14He would call, and I wouldn't tell the committee about a damn thing.
5:15:21I would do a thing.
5:15:22Fire the other name right down, and I'd like to see them take our Jewish friend.
5:15:34He'd be charged with antisemitism.
5:15:41I don't.
5:15:45What I mean is, Weinberger, I don't, I believe, can convince our people that he's a conservative man.
5:15:58I really do.
5:16:06Something on...
5:16:07I don't think he could have had anything there.
5:16:11But John is right.
5:16:13Can I suggest that I call him in and say, we don't know what's going to happen here, but we're present to consider two or three people who want to know whether you want to see what your...
5:16:38That's the way I like having him.
5:16:40There's no problem in doing that because he'd be so delighted to be considered.
5:16:46The way I would do it is to say the president is raising this point.
5:16:49He believes that we totally need to get you confirmed, but we have great doubts, very frankly, about some of our southern friends who think you're too liberal on civil rights now.
5:17:04They'll conduct a thorough investigation on that point, and it does come out at all on us.
5:17:08If you have anything in your record, and in what you have said on this issue, it would be powerful in this area.
5:17:21I think the play is one that should be made today, Wednesday.
5:17:31Yeah.
5:17:31Maybe Friday.
5:17:32You can think of the
5:17:34Well, what I meant is, I'm just saying, he sold himself to Connolly.
5:17:57Because he said, goddammit, it is tough to stand up and so forth.
5:18:01He said, he's the kind of guy we ought to have.
5:18:08Steinberger, incidentally, is not soft.
5:18:10To be candid with you, I thought he was.
5:18:11Until after he went through the raving mill.
5:18:14But I don't know what the hell happened to him.
5:18:16Maybe he's just ambition.
5:18:19But ambition is a reasonable remedy for what it is the Church of Christ is.
5:18:25Started as a conservative across the aisle with the liberals.
5:18:29When that didn't grant out across the aisle back to the conservatives, it did pretty well.
5:18:36Why didn't you always have a conviction?
5:18:40You did it for the same reason Brownie Reed did.
5:18:44You're a great congressman, you know.
5:21:07Now, now, now, but after the election, I'll talk to them in a minute, because our firm, with its, you know, with the age thing you've got, they need a guy to find his age in that firm.
5:21:19After election?
5:21:25Oh, sure.
5:21:26He'd have them running out of his ears.
5:21:32What are we talking about?
5:21:33Six months then?
5:21:34What I think we ought to do is, I think on the financial side, the six month period, we ought to say, Dick, we want you to be free to go out and make all those speeches in Vermont, and we want to give you, just give you cash, you know, well, anyway that you can handle, and so on, and so on, and so on.
5:21:56R.I.D.
5:21:56retains by somebody.
5:21:58OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. You can write a book.
5:22:25Thank you for watching!
5:23:23I think we could work, we just, that, that game ought to be, we could come up with something there, we'll, we'll do.
5:23:27We'll put it on his foundation.
5:23:33Now that's a problem.
5:23:36He needs a guy, you know, to check, uh, for anything.
5:23:43In this case, it's going to hold, you know, several minutes.
5:23:48It's going to hold.
5:23:57But John can get a lot of sympathy out of this.
5:24:01I think.
5:24:02I may be wrong, but I think he will.
5:24:04The administration's still got a good kick in the ass, but I'm telling you, she's got a good sympathy as a man.
5:24:09Oh, look at Portis now.
5:24:10Portis is the super honor he's got here.
5:24:14Sure.
5:24:15Big charity.
5:25:18Actually, you know, they had those demonstrators, you know, out, and keep his game.
5:25:24What did you say about the girls?
5:25:28Oh, this is in practice right now.
5:25:30People are telling me I don't know anything, because I didn't know anything for a second at all.
5:25:37No, but what about the girls, too, you know?
5:25:40How do the girls look?
5:25:41Do they look like they're just your girlfriends' names?
5:25:44I feel, John, that we ought to grasp it.
5:25:48We gotta move on it.
5:26:15I think that I wouldn't let him drag it any longer.
5:26:17I think he's got to keep it very closely known.
5:26:20I don't want this to go beyond here.
5:26:22I don't want to go at this point to Gregory Colson, et cetera, et cetera.
5:26:28I really have a feeling that John can ask
5:26:33He will be clean as a house, too, from the money side, I know.
5:26:45He's not, you know what I mean?
5:26:51Not any money, of course not.
5:27:04She'll come back now.
5:27:12But I really feel now she hates me.
5:27:22Good.
5:27:26He can be better off with me.
5:28:02It's very intelligent.
5:28:08Is she intelligent?
5:28:09I never know who it is.
5:28:11I'd like for you, if you would have, John, to talk to one third.
5:28:18But Dick, I think Dick is prepared for this.
5:28:23I think it has to be done.
5:28:24I know there's no trouble with that next week.
5:29:00Will we do any better by waiting until the third, when the hurling and the birds and the rest of it continues in the air?
5:29:13Third, yeah.
5:29:15Rather than pull it out in the middle of the degree period without being able to do the same.
5:29:24Are we cautioning ourselves or are we running to the more global side?
5:29:27As distinguished, I'll throw in the rattle of the committee here next week.
5:29:36It seems to me then, if Irwin comes back, it's like Bill Hart said, this thing was going to have to run its course by next week or third, except we go to Melbourne and all that.
5:29:55I agree with that, but
5:29:58The difficulty that I see with that, looking at the other side, I can see the argument for it.
5:30:17is that in this week, they'll have other jackasses up there, other crappy stuff come out, or we have to look at it and say they have a thing.
5:30:26I know that, but with him gone, I think they're our only stumbling block in what I see in the works, other than the fact that today calls for a re-examination of the computer's physical condition.
5:31:16You see that clicker that's sitting in there, of course, in the background, it was the police that got him on the list.
5:31:29There's something fishy there.
5:31:32They've only served the police in once, and it was more of a threat.
5:31:46Thank you.
5:32:21And that's
5:33:47It may be that it gives us time to prepare the speech adequately.
5:34:05I just don't want anything to leak.
5:34:10That's the only thing.
5:34:47All right.
5:34:48I think the best thing to do, I think you're arguing, is to tell the boys around here that you've got to fight it through, period.
5:35:08In the meantime, I would tackle Weinberger, and I would fight him.
5:35:14Best way, no.
5:35:17Don't check in private.
5:35:20Get out.
5:35:21If you just talk to Weinberger next week, Weinberger can do his mouth shut.
5:35:35I think you could talk to Weinberger and say, look, in the event
5:35:43In the event that this does not come out in the present, I've got you, John Mitchell, to recommend some options to him, and I want to talk to you again.
5:35:53I mean, it's a fairly tender basis, and if anything comes out of it, there is no chance for you to get it.
5:36:00But therefore, I want to know, I want to get back to some questions, so that I can see that your case is properly presented to the president, if it comes up, because I'm not sure that it will.
5:36:11President's taken by a client and she's trying to fight it for long.
5:36:14How about having him back one time?
5:36:18Good.
5:36:18Okay.

Nixon, Mitchell & Haldeman on ITT Case and Richard Kleindienst

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