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Let me point out what it is.

It's my opening statement, which is deliberately very obligatory at the beginning, to thank the characters on the paper for you on what issues there are that you may want to address.

For me, it's not.

are solved, what decisions need to be taken, good, good, and good, and that the communication needs to happen.

Right.

Plus, now things are really boiling along rather well.

We're going to get good hearing from the North Vietnamese today.

Thank you very much.

Speaking in fact, it has to be called back.

It's now analysed which one we said.

Which one we said on Monday was, which one was, there has to be an explanation of it.

There has to be an explanation of it.

Well, I think that I hope I'm quite perfect now.

... ... ... ...

Back when I was going through prison in New Orleans, there was a... What's the name of my man?

He is back now, unfortunately.

Oh, yeah.

He's dead, you know.

But there's... One of our destroyers was dead at this time.

There's not so many.

You can only see the wounded, but the destroyer was dead.

He was dead.

I don't agree with one of the recommendations.

It's not a way of existing in the NAC now.

I expect that before there's a new 147 facilities against military models.

That's going to have to go on.

That's been dedicated.

Before they get in there, I just want to find a safe place.

I understand that it's the symbol of the time of the important time.

But what that can take away is making it impossible for them to move through it instead.

And of course, if they move through time, they will know that they can get a personal bond with one another.

And they know they can get more.

They can produce those into themselves.

But they, as I told you,

I checked it again this morning.

Theirs lying in the south now in the middle of twice as many tactical soldiers as the highest they did two weeks ago.

Two and a half times as many people as we do.

We could just go up to 77 soldiers.

And it wasn't turning black.

But there's offensive stuff.

We're doing as much as we can.

Yesterday, you know, he's doing what you want.

Yesterday, for example, he put 40 of his 66 pieces into strides into .

And he is concentrating.

And he must have did something in there because that's open country.

But it's almost been concealed.

It's unbelievable.

It's so concentrated, Mr. President, that if they were at all in that area,

pulled out of the area, that means that they have a breather.

But it now looks, for example, that they're pulling back from the long pin.

Now, that's a good example.

Of course, Dave, the outskirts of Long Pin are in trouble.

He said, they're starting to put in heavy heat, and it's just .

And it's going to end up .

If they hold two more weeks and don't give, then they'll have to pull back.

But we have some indication that they're ready to give.

Middle of May, they're passing.

What about the situation?

Three-four.

In that lock, they're launching an attack, but not...

And they did not think that this was more than an attack.

They picked what's happening at that lock-out, so they're flipping south along East 13th.

And as they're flipping south, they're also spreading out.

And when they're getting there, they're getting a helicopter down.

They're getting a helicopter down.

What about our gunship?

It's very pretty good.

It's hard to get that down.

Actually, it's because I say, if they don't do something,

Yesterday, they cut a relief cut of a design based on a film which is protecting the way, protecting a certain movie.

And Locke is holding out.

In fact, there's no major attack on him.

And Locke is mostly harassed.

And then they, it would be interesting to hear what they think.

It's a long time for us, a very short time for them.

It takes us, they're going to take three weeks, they're going to be doing a lot.

They haven't had up to this point, we've had them battle now over two weeks, right?

Yeah.

My head's not going to talk.

It's collapsed.

I can't be sure.

These are the first reports I've ever gotten.

Well, the press reports, no desertions, no banishments.

You know what the press will do.

What?

With one battalion came running down that road without weapons.

And they photographed every individual soldier.

And the television coverage is just criminal.

No, they can't do it.

Over there, of course, they're fighting.

But now they're taking demonstrators on university camps.

They really have to strain to find it.

And then, when you look at the crowds, there are nothing three to five hundred feet, because there are five hundred harder at first school.

But if your colleagues at Harvard are all calling, they won't come back now.

They'll be getting all that crap.

That's it.

That's the point.

I trust none of those that go back to China.

They're chipped now.

I know I will never have you.

I have no idea.

No, but I just think it's a testamentary matter, frankly, in your character.

I think with a little... What do you mean that the... Oh, you mean your...

The television, of course, has been covered.

They're trying to stir up people, aren't they?

What do you think of that?

They covered matters, and they covered...

But I think how they've tried to help us

said Muskie was on that boat and said, this proves it now.

It proves it beyond any doubt.

The president won the military victory.

Now, is anybody going on?

I guess I know that.

We are charging invasion day every day.

The rockers have it layered today.

Oh, yeah.

So that certainly is.

Oh, and the beauty was George Wallace ripped him into little shreds.

On the same show.

What did he say?

He said, this is an invasion.

President and is absolutely right.

If anything, he's doing enough.

You have to save American lives.

What will these people want?

They're 60,000 American presidents.

Actually, Wallace, I don't believe that the average American presidential candidate will consider it a crime if the president wants military victories.

Well, also, particularly, I agree, I agree.

and uh we're not backing out and it's a devil it doesn't hurt your trip at all but it was a good thing i called him or he might have been off on that other kick that well we were doing he always wanted to put something to it but he threw the blockade off he would have said that if we weren't going to block it he'd look that up i had no doubt that it was saying

put up that stuff outside now.

You ought to go to Petrush sometime, but I'll make it up to him.

Petrush told me that they had benefited and assigned you to Petrush's office and to Patrush's office to give them every day but a very consequence that the debt didn't go down.

And so Petrush found that out and he called me down and he said, you're stupid to be a spy.

He said it was true.

He told them that?

He's capable of having great life.

He's stronger.

And more of your man.

Packard was a decent guy, but I don't really believe I trust him.

I think Rush is a hawk.

Rush is a hawk.

He is a hawk.

He's a highly intelligent man.

He's deceptive in his own way.

He has that southern...

But he is highly intelligent.

I mean this head.

After every message, we decide what's going to be done.

And then he gets it done over there in this way, and then we find a way to improve it.

And he tells me what's going on, what's really going on.

And he has an outstanding mind.

He's been empowered to stretch his very own wisdom.

I thought maybe it was in his head, but it just was very well made to say that he had his feet on the ground.

You know, the thing about the Taliban is they basically are

are petrified about the fact that this is going to turn out all right.

They also think this is an opportunity to knock us down, knock me down.

They're attacking and all that stuff.

But they are ready to come up with a bunch of bad things right now.

You see, I'm hiding a whole bunch right now.

Those jackasses that were over there in China with us, they were there.

There's a bunch of goddamn soft-headed...

I had a drink with Nelson yesterday.

My father was up there.

My father was there.

Halfie was talking to her mother.

And she said to me, tell the president he's making us proud of the Americans.

He's restoring the dignity of the Americans.

I don't know who his mother is, but he's always felt that way.

Nelson, who was, who was, you know, of course you remember he wasn't in Cambodia, again, but I, so he would not have had to stay.

But on the other hand, I think this time, after Cambodia, he's thoroughly convinced that, you know, that it's all right.

We are, and you'll want to remember, too, he had a little problem, you know, with bloodshed coming up, you know, that he had to, you know, that he had to, you know,

Well, that is because of the people around him.

Because of the people around him, and because he has this emotion of that.

And, yeah, I know.

But what really happened was that he saw what they were in a fight.

And he saw the people that stood with him were not the liberals, but his conservative friends.

Didn't he?

That's what really happened.

All those damn left-wing newspaper people showed what brats they were.

and how they visited the Jews.

He saw them all together.

Then they wrote such film-defeating things that made them only the worst possible life.

Well, there's incidentally our little Chinese picture of the required place.

And you shouldn't see this John.

He was not on crime.

They must have made a decision.

I could tell you already about this.

They were very nice.

I mean, they were boozing.

They were very nice.

Of course, a lot of Americans are good at this beat, and that's true.

They used to come to the Oskar and stay in a couple of other states and say, the Chinese were the best in this beat.

Have they?

Yeah.

In a matter of least, they're a much safer beat.

In fact, in the past, it was telling me last night how proud they were to have been invited to the president, and how they felt about how they made it to the Senate.

But on the American front, people probably left wondering if they'd know it.

And they put out a statement, and it's deepening today in the United States.

But you know, it's interpretive.

Kelly was traveling with him.

I suppose he's trying to talk to him.

Well, I didn't work.

Yeah, it shows a little bit of what's really common in a country like that, going with the technology.

You know, a lot of the people are pro-change, and they need interpreters very quickly.

I really don't understand the big game.

Don't you think so?

What the hell?

What the hell are they doing?

We would be better off relying on that.

Yeah.

I mean, these were, these are not State Department people.

They are going to be fired.

Yeah.

We're trying to get back to the folks that didn't show up.

He was calling every day.

Stay in the place where you are.

Stay in the place you leave us with that.

very clear all the time here in Moscow there must not be any let up funds who are there there is they get too cheap a shot let's see I don't mean that we can pan off but I mean that battlefield area is decimated that's minor qualification I might make let's see what that message is what I meant is something the present state applies

just like it is, you're going, you know, we're about to take a poll.

So let's see if they have a message to give you anything.

We've changed.

We've changed the level.

We're not going to be inflexible.

We never have.

It doesn't matter.

We can't, at this time, let them think they can toy with us.

We cannot.

They must not.

You see, like you say, when they get over there, I'll read the paper.

We'll talk to them.

We'll get up on the night and say, you know, I have a message.

My God, we go over this thing.

I agree.

I think there are messages.

I'm glad to be attending.

They don't accept it.

Or if I'm any judge of them, what they may say.

It's 27.

just to prove the devil and the bastard.

I think that actually there might be some advantage in an integral degree between going to... You see, we have to think of two of this.

I've got to do this press conference.

I can't put it off for 100 times.

And so...

We may want to pull the cover on the Russian trip.

I think it's true.

I think it's the president.

Russia.

I talked to Bob about it.

Bob said it's too late to do it, but if you would do it, that's true.

And one should announce the Russian trip on the noon of the press conference.

So that you get two guys out.

Well, the reason I wouldn't do it that way

and then getting asked the question.

They've got to have it prepared.

The thing to do is to get them right in the pocket and nothing else.

You see, Bob doesn't understand the elements of crime.

Get them right in the puss limit.

That and the announcements.

And then the people are all confused and they're confused.

They're too right anyway.

I'll write it all down.

But I put them to face this government.

It's the best thing.

I do not say it's the best thing.

It may be wrong.

I don't think it is.

It's going to be the best thing.

It's the best thing.

Oh, you're going to have a great one for Russia.

You're getting a great one.

No, but you can do that and do it in the building.

Why don't you just have an announcement in the middle of the night?

Don't tell them.

They say that's the only time I can do it, but I want to announce it personally.

I'll announce it at nine o'clock tonight.

How's it going?

But supposing they won't agree?

I will, but I want to strike very strongly.

Very much so.

Listen, you can be sure that there will be a tremendous pitch.

How late can you go?

Ten.

Ten is the latest.

That's fair to say.

How late does it make us?

Ten is the latest.

Let me say before you go over there.

that I'm here, I'm concerned about, and I hope that our employees, the White House, the staff, aren't concerned about the student riots and all that bullshit.

I don't let these people get out, but I'm kicking Bob's voice in the ass every day over here.

Even Bob Fitch this morning at his last meeting was very, he said, very, very rich.

But what I find so interesting is that I'm not going to let, look, my point is, I understand the people out there, but I'm not going to let the staff

or decanter, and it'll get soft on this one.

Did you wear out?

I forgot to wear out.

You don't, huh?

What's your finding?

Well, I find it interesting.

There were two riots yesterday in Maryland.

It took even the highest television.

Very high.

The lawns were filled with old plants.

It looked like the hippie population was.

I'm sure it's just the last breath of the drakes that are out there.

The tide's trying to build up.

It's spreading across the country.

You will emerge at this signal, sir.

I am beginning to think something is happening.

Is the Chinese were heading for a confrontation, sir?

First of all, it's... Ah, no.

They sent us Monday class disinfectant, so we're going to stay out of that.

Aye, aye.

Yeah.

And then his abusive behavior that he had last week.

Also, let's face it, after Skelly was gone, he was worried to death about these guys.

Of course, they came.

He was worried about the goddamn Americans.

You know, the Americans made it hard to accept their state home.

Like, you know, I was saying to Bob yesterday, I mean, much as I hate to admit it, the Chinese kids were clean.

They were stronger looking.

They looked you in the eye.

They were clear-eyed.

Our kids were sort of slow and late.

Maybe that's the thing they needed the most out of a man.

They had great things ready, didn't they?

Oh, did you?

Yeah.

It was a nice little circle.

It was a good circle.

It was a good thing for that man.

Once they did sort of a bath, and they called it, and they took it inside, and I saw Dave Dressel, because we used to live with him, and he used to be decent.

Well, I mean, he's very soft-hearted.

He's very soft-hearted.

Perhaps with the background, I know him better than you do.

He's from Miami, you know.

He's probably been on the edge of being really clear over his speaking of the world.

An old Miami hero, man.

Yeah.

But he may have grown up a little.

Well, no, I think he saw that he's hysterical a few times.

He called on Sunday, I don't think it was called.

He called on Monday.

He saw him, and for sure, first time, almost.

Now he's gone.

But yesterday, he said, I don't know what to do.

Why did he say that?

Well, because they are all puzzled.

At this very moment, I don't feel any reaction.

There's no Chinese reaction.

There's no Chinese reaction at all.

Ain't no sort of reaction for anyone.

It's only for everyone.

I know it's bad.

It's sad, but of course, no one appreciates the sadness.

What you've had to do again is because even I was soft-hearted,

As if that on the first day, I remember you wearing a gown, and I said to you, this is going to tell me how it's going to go one way or the other.

And I was saying how we might maneuver it if it goes the bad way.

And you said to me that even there's no way of doing it.

And you think of that in your thoughts.

But you may not remember that on Monday, but April 3rd, that is what you said to me in one way.

And that's...

I think that lie needs to be thoroughly understood to do what's possible.

We now have no choice.

The only thing that you can have in the back of your mind is that we need members to say no to what's in the law.

That's very important.

The only thing that I can have in the back of my mind is that I need to say no.

Three to five.

Three to thirty.

Three to thirty to five.

We have talked about the fact that this is the last number we may have to get to Russia.

That's the best I can do.

I'd like to think about it.

That is really, and I'd like to, that satisfies all my hesitations to go over the rope now, but it really is not quite true.

If we, through trip, subterfuge, any way,

and by a time has no record, and win the election, then we'll have a better, then, then we can squeeze the sons of bitches like we did every next week before.

And only one, only Turkey can have our, possibility of our surviving, will be greatly affected by the deal that we've issued.

And that is why all that impairs

any agreement we had with the impact is to get some motion on POWs.

In fact, you see, I can just hear everybody say there are 200 POWs on the ground.

There are 500 POWs.

We need them to get some.

So I don't know what your talking paper says about POWs, but you see them playing.

Now, your feeling is they're never going to give a POW that they're going to hold them hostage.

So I don't know if that's reasonable today.

My feeling is, Mr. President,

that we can stop their advances now and get rid of the dogs without any support, that we will get it settled this summer, because they will know that we do not.

I do not believe that they cannot deal with this moribund variety, that 500 POWs are going to make a difference if there is no victory, if there is no big war going on.

You think it does?

I don't think they can.

haven't been squeezed, haven't been lost, both eating and muster up to six months period as active supporters.

They have to, at least it is true that you can lose because of 500 field efforts.

I don't believe it is true.

I think food prices are going to affect the aloe vera more than the field efforts, you see, if you can't, you know, make something of that.

But, uh,

Therefore, I think it's going to be settled before the election.

We will not let you get re-elected if the polls don't show you behind the system.

And I can't imagine that.

I think you're going to come.

If we get this thing, if it's said that the next school is leaving, we're going to get the offensive stuff.

The negotiation stuff.

You will have shown fantastic faith in us.

All of this will be

And in this way, the news went out, and things were good.

When you go on television next week and say, you know, what are we going to do?

That's the direction we're going to take.

But if you need to make any changes in that, I'd say that we are way out of the way.

You think we're going to have to run a garage or something.

I don't know.

It's a little bit different.

I'm sitting on the stage, and they all can say, Bill, that's great.

The Russians, the Russians want to talk to us, talk to you non-sincerely.

And then we're going to go in and talk to you non-sincerely.

It's almost true.

It's true enough.

And, of course, you're talking about other things.

And they will say, well, you're trying to be discreet.

You know, you're going there to talk about Vietnam.

That's the subject.

But the Russians have asked to talk about Vietnam.

They blame them.

And, uh, and, uh, and, uh, and I, and I, but all of the others will be behind me.

I won't say that it's a politician, because we all know there's finance in the bag.

Well, I think I saw a big match with Mr. President.

Yeah.

He makes people guilty.

I saw them on the last date, and I would ask him on his committee to get over there and, and get a picture taken of who he could be and so on.

The guy hasn't been totally mapped out.

But he's doing some defense to that.

Right.

Well, from a private view.

Yeah.

And that's the kind of leads we're going to do now.

Yeah.

That's right.

Good.

We'll tell Roger that.

We'll see.

But he must not communicate it.

No.

Mr. President, no president has ever faced a situation where the leaders of the opposition parties are speculating

When the military defeated the United States, all the media went on.

I'm joking, I'm not.

But they're not doing it back to the Lord.

They didn't really speak to that.

They don't do something like that.

And eventually, if they had those jackass little, and I'll take that here, if they had those jackass gun-ass interpreters, we should have done better.

I mean, under this exchange program, what the hell?

Did we have any control of the situation?

Well, again, that's not what we're talking about.

I heard that they would not vote because we were bombing it and the Chinese were embarrassed about it.

Why the hell did they not come then?

This is really more embarrassing to the Chinese than to you.

I can tell the Chinese ambassador told me how pleased they were by the deception and how much they were looking forward to it.

I'm not a shoulder bearer for them.

They're going to take any bloody-minded sense of fiction.

Based on their own ambassador's details, they're going to do whatever they want.

These are not gentle people.

To the right, the North Vietnamese have a hell of a list of all kinds of things that are not possible in the mind.

I don't have to be able to go to the hospital, or the other way around.

But you don't have to be a, I mean, you don't have to be sure.

There has to be a high, a good possibility that you're very good.

That respect for what you'll be, and then throw everything out.

There's one respect in which you're better off now than you were two years ago, which is that the Russians need you more now than they'll need you in another time.

Very well.