Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 331-024
Date: Wednesday, April 19, 1972 at 12:57 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.
Recording device: Old Executive Office Building
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/331-024

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[0:00] Hello?
[0:13] I just want to get a report on the hearing, how's it going?
[0:25] Right.
[0:25] Yeah.
[0:27] I thought that they're not going to return for the Senate floor hearings today.
[0:54] Well, that'll be tomorrow.
[0:54] Certainly, they'll take all day for money.
[1:01] I think our people should walk out of a night session tonight.
[1:24] That's ridiculous.
[1:25] Don't you think so?
[1:25] Right, right, right.
[1:26] Fine, fine.
[1:26] Well, I won't worry about that.
[1:27] I've got some other two sessions.
[1:27] But anyway, that's fine.
[1:28] It seems to me your people did very well yesterday out here.
[1:29] The FW guy.
[1:29] Yeah.
[1:32] I didn't see the summary box at all.
[1:58] Good.
[1:58] I think they're not having too much success.
[1:59] We haven't tried to stir yet the demonstration.
[2:00] It's spring and everything, and they should have barrel guns.
[2:05] What do you care?
[2:25] We just keep hammering.
[2:26] Invasion, invasion, sentencing, very well.
[2:27] They let the president always say that if they cross the DMV and invade it, we have to react.
[2:29] And we haven't, but I don't know if we should.
[2:30] Devin Rogers is intending to meet the people, which is good.
[2:37] Was that just Republicans or Republicans and Democrats?
[2:56] Right?
[2:56] And you've got to interrupt with how, in a way.
[3:00] An end to war amendment by the Democratic caucus puts the Democratic Party in a hell of a bad position.
[3:02] I'm not so worried about that.
[3:03] I'm going to pass their dances.
[3:04] They get it out of that floor.
[3:05] I'm going to pass theirs.
[3:08] A lot of Democrats will squeal like hell about it, too.
[3:31] I am going to attempt in that caucus to get your resolution considered.
[3:35] What do the Democrats say?
[3:36] They don't want to condemn our Vietnam.
[3:37] That or abstract.
[3:37] Right.
[3:41] Right.
[3:45] But the aggressors, in other words, the infidels, the North Vietnamese, communists, and the aggressors, and all they're going to do is fight aggression.
[3:54] They're on the side of the communists.
[3:55] You know, putting them on the side of the enemy, on the side of the communists, you just keep hammering them.
[4:08] Yeah.
[4:08] Yeah.
[4:08] Okay.
[4:08] Right.
[4:11] We may have more people on our side than anything.
[4:24] But you can't tell.
[4:27] You never know.
[4:28] I mean, all these, you know, things that you've got to type and other things.
[4:30] But we're not going to be reflective and cold.
[4:30] We're just going to go right ahead because we're on the right side.
[4:34] On the right side.
[4:35] All right.
[4:39] It's a mistake on his part, but I mean, if he wants to
[5:09] He should always be strong in this issue.
[5:19] That's the one thing he's considered as a patriot.
[5:24] But he's just going to be lower in his name, particularly if this moves.
[5:30] And I wish you would get Brandon to say something.
[5:35] Good.
[5:35] Really thanks a lot.
[5:38] We didn't plan it that way, but the Senate told them that way last week.
[5:54] Yeah.
[6:01] That's great.
[6:01] Well, you know, Chuck, as a matter of fact, this kind of thing is good for us.
[6:03] Do you realize that the idea that I have seen in some of the political columns, you know, right here and there, running for president's chair, being distressed because the Republicans didn't get the amount of that.
[6:07] Listen.
[6:08] whenever you have a crisis, and handle it properly.
[6:32] That's a plus.
[6:33] It's leadership.
[6:33] Don't you agree?
[6:33] The public's be damned.
[6:34] Good.
[6:34] Good.
[6:34] That's right.
[6:35] Don't get too worried about whatever happens, Seth.
[6:36] I'm not going to do any of that.
[6:36] Let's just drag on this long.
[6:38] I think it was true.
[6:47] Yeah.
[6:48] We're off that wicket.
[6:49] We have offered him, and they're squealing that we don't offer others.
[6:53] It becomes patently partisan.
[6:54] On the other hand, on the recent day, I said, don't be too worried about it.
[6:58] Our guys should have adjourned the damn hearing at 5 o'clock, though.
[7:02] Yeah.
[7:02] And Gilliam Otter and the rest, they really ought to hammer him hard.
[7:06] Yeah.
[7:07] Yeah.
[7:10] All right.
[7:12] Good.
[7:12] All right.
[7:17] Good luck.