{"conversationCode":"331-028","tapeNumber":331,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-331-028","startDateTime":"1972-04-19T18:49:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-19T19:11:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Apr-1972","startTime":"1:49 PM","endDate":"19-Apr-1972","endTime":"2:11 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:49 pm and 2:11 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 331-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"EOB","recordingDevice":"Old Executive Office Building","latitudeEstimated":38.897567,"longitudeEstimated":-77.039147,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 331-28\n\nDate: April 19, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 1:49 pm and 2:11 pm\nLocation: Executive Office Building\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Meeting with Jerry V. Wilson\n               -Time\n               -Location\n\n           -Table tennis team\n           -Meeting with Wilson\n                -Talking points\n                      -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.\n                            -The President’s comments\n                                 -Duration\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 2:11 pm.","filename":["331-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:19:05","tapeEnd":"04:19:48","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"331-027","nextCode":"331-029","transcript":[{"start":0.34,"end":22.92,"text":"We'll set it up right outside the... We won't be able to do it on the steps, sir, because the sun is not over yet."},{"start":22.94,"end":26.25,"text":"Generally, we could do it yesterday, but we couldn't find any."},{"start":26.27,"end":27.07,"text":"So there's no way to do it on the steps."},{"start":27.09,"end":27.93,"text":"But we'll get to you in a second, sir."},{"start":28.45,"end":31.69,"text":"Yeah, it's hard to make it."},{"start":31.71,"end":32.07,"text":"I need one minute."},{"start":32.09,"end":32.91,"text":"I want to talk to him again."},{"start":32.94,"end":33.14,"text":"So, fine."},{"start":33.16,"end":33.7,"text":"I was very, very pleased."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to finalize logistical arrangements and talking points for an upcoming appointment with D.C. Police Chief Jerry V. Wilson. The discussion addressed the scheduling of a photo opportunity with the U.S. table tennis team and specifically covered the President's intended comments regarding Egil \"Bud\" Krogh, Jr. The primary objective was to coordinate the sequence and location of these meetings to ensure operational efficiency.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Jerry V. Wilson","Table tennis diplomacy","Egil Krogh","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T15:31:52.071Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","jerry-v-wilson","table-tennis-diplomacy","egil-krogh","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":36,"audioFiles":[{"file":"331-028.mp3","bytes":1444885,"durationSec":35.98,"bitrate":321242,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:41.907Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/331-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/331-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/331/conversation-331-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}