{"conversationCode":"332-023","tapeNumber":332,"conversationNumber":23,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-332-023","startDateTime":"1972-04-25T15:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-25T15:40:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Apr-1972","startTime":"10:05 AM","endDate":"25-Apr-1972","endTime":"10:40 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On April 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:05 am and 10:40 am. 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