{"conversationCode":"332-029","tapeNumber":332,"conversationNumber":29,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-332-029","startDateTime":"1972-04-25T15:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-25T15:45:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Apr-1972","startTime":"10:40 AM","endDate":"25-Apr-1972","endTime":"10:45 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On April 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 10:40 am to 10:45 am. 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Rumsfeld\n               -Former congressmen\n                      -Clark MacGregor\n\nButterfield left at 10:45 am.","filename":["332a.mp3","332b.mp3","332c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:03:03","tapeEnd":"03:04:12","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"332-028","nextCode":"332-030","tapeTranscriptFile":"332a.mp3,332b.mp3,332c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":10984.03,"end":10989.97,"text":"We honor her both sides, the South Vietnam and North Vietnam, each respecting the other than the others."},{"start":10990.19,"end":10999.87,"text":"Before you say, leave that view, we often want to share it with you, so put in an insert before that."},{"start":11000.39,"end":11010.17,"text":"Black or North Vietnam or any other country, we want no territory, we seek no basis, and then we often want to share it with you."},{"start":11010.19,"end":11010.4,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":11013.12,"end":11019.71,"text":"And then after they, they should take it after."},{"start":11019.77,"end":11022.15,"text":"We will not be humiliated."},{"start":11022.19,"end":11023.81,"text":"We will not be abused."},{"start":11023.85,"end":11025.91,"text":"And we will never surrender."},{"start":11025.95,"end":11032.49,"text":"We will never surrender."},{"start":11032.51,"end":11039.73,"text":"I did not say this was a matter of jingoistic national crime."},{"start":11042.02,"end":11045.75,"text":"must face up to this informed and supported communist aggression."},{"start":11045.77,"end":11049.91,"text":"If it fails in Vietnam, it will be discouraged elsewhere."},{"start":11051.27,"end":11061.04,"text":"If it succeeds there, it will be encouraged elsewhere, and the risk of war in other places in the world will be an arm's length increase."},{"start":11061.06,"end":11063.34,"text":"Please let us bring our men home from Vietnam."},{"start":11063.36,"end":11064.22,"text":"Let us end the war in Vietnam."},{"start":11065.32,"end":11068.62,"text":"But let us end it in a way that the younger brothers and the sons of the brave men"},{"start":11071.29,"end":11072.05,"text":"We have fought in Vietnam."},{"start":11072.11,"end":11080.29,"text":"We'll not be fighting in some other Vietnam at some time in the future."},{"start":11080.35,"end":11091.58,"text":"My friends and critics alike, this is an election year that I risk winning the election by resisting this new aggression."},{"start":11093.6,"end":11096.61,"text":"Our air naval force is to resist this new aggression."},{"start":11098.96,"end":11109.87,"text":"that I would greatly increase my chances to win the election if I brought peace to Vietnam, whatever the price."},{"start":11109.91,"end":11117.56,"text":"I can sit in his office and act in a way that weakens the presidency of the United States."},{"start":11117.58,"end":11122.98,"text":"I completely reject."},{"start":11123,"end":11123.14,"text":"Well..."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":10983,"end":11131.75,"startMethod":"tape_time","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"medium","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Alexander P. 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